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Airguns by Make and Model => Crosman Airguns => Topic started by: JaRoHe on September 08, 2019, 04:59:29 PM
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Looking to pickup a Crosman rifle for backyard pesting...
I am leaning towards the 2100 (vs Legacy 1000, 760 Pumpmaster).
What is the difference between the 2100B and the 2100X (only difference I'm seeing is that the 2100X include a scope)?
Accuracy vs power would be my first & topmost consideration...
Any thoughts, comments, or suggestions regarding the Crosman line are welcomed...
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I love Crosman products, I have a couple marauders, a couple 1720T’s, prod and a good handful of old vintage co2 stuff.
I had a 2100 for a few months and ended up selling it.
It was not a bad rifle, actually very good for the price but my vintage Sheridan and Benjiman rifles were better when it came to power. On the other end the rifle that made me sell the 2100 was the Daisy 853. It doesn’t have the power but it is so accurate that I always found myself grabbing that over the 2100.
I know this isn’t really what you asked but I only posted this because you mention accuracy over power.
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Are you set on a pumper... or wold you consider a break barrel?
Is Vintage out of the question?
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If you are willing to go vintage Crosman get a 140 or 1400 ( same gun but the 1400 has some improvements you might like )
For new get the 2100, I find mine a great gun for the price.
Pumpers are the way to go in my opinion.
The only complaint would be that the stocks are currently ugly so I'm glad I got mine a couple years ago.
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Looking for a variable pumper... my longest shot would only be 30 feet max. I already have a couple of break barrels, they have way more power than I need for the short distances I'll be shooting at.
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You should consider the Crosman Custom Shop
You can get a nice and fancy 1300KT Pump Carbine .22 or .177 with steel breech and 14" or 18" barrel for less than you may think.
https://www.crosman.com/custom-shop/ (https://www.crosman.com/custom-shop/)
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I have a 2100 that I bought last year and it is a really good gun for the money and very accurate. I bought mine as a refurb and have had no issues with it.
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You should consider the Crosman Custom Shop
You can get a nice and fancy 1300KT Pump Carbine .22 or .177 with steel breech and 14" or 18" barrel for less than you may think.
https://www.crosman.com/custom-shop/ (https://www.crosman.com/custom-shop/)
Much better gun the the 2100.
I would go this route if you are willing to extend your budget.
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Another consideration is the Maximus Euro model. 12fpe and has a threaded muzzle adapter for a LDC. A $50 dollar pump, scope and you are ready to go.
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I would suggest a Sheridan C with a peep sight.
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I bought my son in law a 2100 a few years back. Very accurate for a $50 gun. He had a squirrel problem in his yard at the time and i shot many of them with his 2100 from 15 to 30 yards.
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I personally dispatched hundreds of rats with my 2100 when I was still in the Philippines.
A Polish friend of mine bought it from me and did trigger mods on it...Also fitted a homebrew silencer.
There is a Remington(?) version of the 2100 in silver finish.
It is indeed a a Remington called the Airmaster 77 and in silver finish.
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There is a Remington(?) version of the 2100 in silver finish.
It is indeed a a Remington called the Airmaster 77 and in silver finish.
Is the Remmington Airmaster 77 made by Crosman? Would this be considered a step-up from the 2100?
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If I am not mistaken, Crosman owns Remington.
The A77 and the 2100 are exactly the same except for the colors.
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Crosman 1377 with a carbine stock? You can add/build it to your liking as you go along.
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If you are up to a little project I would suggest a 760 with the rifled barrel. I put off doing this mod for a while then decided to give it a go. I have to tell you for the $35 for the gun and another $15 for the barrel, barrel stabilizer and front sight this gun was transformed into a super accurate little daemon of a gun. So accurate I decided it needed a scope. It is one of the most fun guns I have to shoot. I also filled the butt with caulk and the forearm with resin to reduce the plastic clapping sound of pumping it so now it sounds solid. Every time I shoot it I`m thinking "Dang, this thing is amazing!).
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I picked up a 2100x combo on sale last year. It worked great- good accuracy and power. I'd recommend it.
I believe you are correct that the X has a cheap scope but otherwise the same.
The Daisy 880 is in the same class, but I prefer the fit and feel of the more substantial 2100; And my 2100 had better out of the box accuracy and power than the several new 880s I've owned.
Have fun!
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We get the same questions from time to time on the forum. Earlier I recommended the Sheridan but, if that is out of the question for you then The 2100 is a good option. One of the biggest reason being than they are still made with some metal. With that in mind, they beg to had some wood added.
There is another member of the GTA (EGilman) who makes wood stocks and fore arms in various wood types.
Below is one of mine in mesquite.
I have 2 others in walnut.
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I own various pumpers, for cheap but ok with in 20 yards I would get a 760. My Daisy 880's are a step up from that at $35 average price at walmart they are a good bargain. The 2100 is a nice all purpose gun also. It has more weight, and cost more but is a very accurate gun. I have seen them for as little as $49 refurbed and I have bought them new and refurb and have no problems with them. If as you say you just want an inexpensive plinker/pester the 880 and 2100 are a good deal. Of course, if money isn't an object and you want to spend over a $100-$170 then buy a Benjamin/ Sheridan pumper.
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I own various pumpers, for cheap but ok with in 20 yards I would get a 760. My Daisy 880's are a step up from that at $35 average price at walmart they are a good bargain. The 2100 is a nice all purpose gun also. It has more weight, and cost more but is a very accurate gun. I have seen them for as little as $49 refurbed and I have bought them new and refurb and have no problems with them. If as you say you just want an inexpensive plinker/pester the 880 and 2100 are a good deal. Of course, if money isn't an object and you want to spend over a $100-$170 then buy a Benjamin/ Sheridan pumper.
So if I'm understanding this right, you're buying a smooth bore 760 Pumpmaster and replacing the smooth bore barrel with a rifled barrel? Is the rifled barrel made specifically for the 760 Pumpmaster... or is it a barrel from another model that switches out with the 760 Pumpmaster?
Are there any advantages to modifying a 760 Pumpmaster vs. purchasing a 2100 Classic model?
FYI: I currently have 3 Daisy 880's, I'm just looking to add a little variety to the mix...
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I own various pumpers, for cheap but ok with in 20 yards I would get a 760. My Daisy 880's are a step up from that at $35 average price at walmart they are a good bargain. The 2100 is a nice all purpose gun also. It has more weight, and cost more but is a very accurate gun. I have seen them for as little as $49 refurbed and I have bought them new and refurb and have no problems with them. If as you say you just want an inexpensive plinker/pester the 880 and 2100 are a good deal. Of course, if money isn't an object and you want to spend over a $100-$170 then buy a Benjamin/ Sheridan pumper.
So if I'm understanding this right, you're buying a smooth bore 760 Pumpmaster and replacing the smooth bore barrel with a rifled barrel? Is the rifled barrel made specifically for the 760 Pumpmaster... or is it a barrel from another model that switches out with the 760 Pumpmaster?
Are there any advantages to modifying a 760 Pumpmaster vs. purchasing a 2100 Classic model?
FYI: I currently have 3 Daisy 880's, I'm just looking to add a little variety to the mix...
There are no real advantages other than that doing this ends costing a bit less than a brand new 2100 and the 760 uses 5 shot pellet clips.
And yes the rifled barrel is manufactured for a different model but is a direct drop in as the gun is based on the 760's mechanism.
The 2100 is a much better gun hands down in my opinion, the plastic crosman uses these days is not as durable as the stuff they used to use.
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Cant go wrong with a Crosman
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Jim, I am pretty sure I got the idea of a barrel swap from David so I would go with what he said on choosing a gun. I just couldn't pass up the idea of turning an otherwise lame gun into such an amazing shooter let alone spend the $60 plus on a still plastic piece of junk. Doesn't the 2100 have the plastic noodle barrel? The 760 has a metal barrel that will last beyond the rest of the gun. Worst case I buy another to swap my current barrel into. Oh well, it was just an idea. Good luck with your choice.
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One more opinion. I'd do a 760 with rifled bbl over a 2100 or AM77 hands down. Just sold two beautiful examples of vintage all metal versions of those due to a little less accuracy than a rifled 760. 760 has a bit less fps...but just smoked the drinking straw barrels in shot on shot accuracy on this range.
...but WAY better than that is the custom shop 1300KT . Platform + steel breech (for a scope rail) + 14" barrel And shoulder stock is a $165.00 tack driver. Power is on par with a 760, more is just a matter of throwing $ to Alchemy Airwerks.
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The bottom group was shot with my cheap 760 with a stock smooth bore barrel at 25ft. I know that’s not very far but I thought it was okay for a smooth bore and no scope with my bad eyes. I don’t know if you can still get one with the five shot clip but I really like that option. That being said, the 2100 has a much more solid feel and is adult size. I like them both ;D
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Like Bantam was saying...
A solid, older gun like a 1400 can be had fairly reasonable. 5-6 pumps is plenty for pesting across the yard.
I dig mine, compact and accurate with good power.
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When I think of Crosman I still think of 2100 and 2200. I bet some old timers around here probably think of older models.
You can't go wrong with 2100 for the price, but I actually like the new synthetic dtock they put on the benji 392
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Like Bantam was saying...
A solid, older gun like a 1400 can be had fairly reasonable. 5-6 pumps is plenty for pesting across the yard.
I dig mine, compact and accurate with good power.
Sweet, I used to have one 45+ years ago... brings back a lot of memories!!! Can you still get parts for these???
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Yes... there are a few online sources to get parts.
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Like Bantam was saying...
A solid, older gun like a 1400 can be had fairly reasonable. 5-6 pumps is plenty for pesting across the yard.
I dig mine, compact and accurate with good power.
Sweet, I used to have one 45+ years ago... brings back a lot of memories!!! Can you still get parts for these???
What price range are you looking at??
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At this point I'm just looking to add something different to my growing collection (on the cheap)... My Daisy 880's (3x), with a few basic barrel/trigger mods, are extremely effective as far as my pesting requirements are concerned (the $35 price tag can't be beat).
I wouldn't mind picking up something vintage at some point... but I'd want to able to shoot it!!! I don't want to pay collector's prices to pick up a basket case. Some of the prices I've seen for vintage airguns on ebay are insane, not to mention the condition of some of them look like they've been thrown off a rocky mountain top or found run over on the side of a highway/gravel road.
I had a Benjamin 342 growing up... only wish I'd have hung on to it (I handed it off to my brother, he has no idea what ever happened to it).
Ideally, I'd like to pick up a .22 caliber pumper... I've heard good things about the 1300KT platform, I'll have to do a little research on the options/choices available. (Would definitely need to do some planning before going down that rabbit hole!!!)
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Baker air guns has some vintage crosman pumpers that might be worth a look. I don’t know much about vintage pumpers so don’t know if the prices are good but I did by a metal/metal 880 from him and it shoots excellent.
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Buy a 'streak. In good nick they are a game changer for a multi pump.
If you are set on Crosman, a 34X, or 39XP. (.177 or .22 that you prefer).
Trigger alone is far Superior to today's offering.
OH SNAP.... those are both Benjimans bought by Crosman. ;)
If you desire new... a 13XX from CCS. Or a new 39X.
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FYI: I received my new Crosman 2100 today (well my wife received it for me). First two shots out of the box with open sights (close enough). Mounted the included Crosman scope & the next three shots put me on paper and near target, after a slight scope adjustment the next three pellets went in same hole (thought I had fliers at first), next minor scope adjustment put me dead on center of target. After work tonight, 2 shots / 2 kills on the sparrows (those were the only two I saw).
Test Pellet: H&N Baracuda Hunter Hollowpoint 10.34 grain (preferred pellet of my Daisy 880's)
So far I'm really impressed... I love the weight, feel, and look of this air rifle. The pellets actually load much easier in the 2100 than they do in my Daisy 880's. I have nothing negative to say about the Crosman 2100 at this point.
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You can put O-rings inside the barrel sleeve to mitigate play.
I had an engineering plastic machined for this purpose though.
I think HPA Sports sells this type of sleeve.
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FYI: I received my new Crosman 2100 today (well my wife received it for me). First two shots out of the box with open sights (close enough). Mounted the included Crosman scope & the next three shots put me on paper and near target, after a slight scope adjustment the next three pellets went in same hole (thought I had fliers at first), next minor scope adjustment put me dead on center of target. After work tonight, 2 shots / 2 kills on the sparrows (those were the only two I saw).
Test Pellet: H&N Baracuda Hunter Hollowpoint 10.34 grain (preferred pellet of my Daisy 880's)
So far I'm really impressed... I love the weight, feel, and look of this air rifle. The pellets actually load much easier in the 2100 than they do in my Daisy 880's. I have nothing negative to say about the Crosman 2100 at this point.
Absolutly! no doubt the 2100 series is way more friendly to loading pellets than the 880s... but the (lower power from my few vintage samples) 880s had the 2100/AM77s whipped in accuracy.
I hate my fat fingers when they try to feed that picky lil' 880 loading chamber...:-/
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CCS 1300KT 14.6 barrel and buttstock great price easy to mod lots of fun...
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