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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: Mike West on July 16, 2019, 01:52:53 PM
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I just got to shoot 4 really nice air guns and I realized I can’t stand them.
Air guns are new to me,shooting high-end custom rifles are not.
On a benchrest gun I want 1-2oz’s...On a field hunting gun I want 1-2 lbs
No 1st stage,no creep just put pressure on it and bang it goes off.
Is this a lawyer/safety thing?
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For me it is just personal preference and I prefer 2 stage triggers. I have not shot any HIGH end single stage triggers but I like being able to adjust for a comfortable finger position using the 1st stage then having that clean break point.
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Mike I am with you. On all my guns, I adj. the trigger to get rid of the first stage. Craig
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For me it is just personal preference and I prefer 2 stage triggers. I have not shot any HIGH end single stage triggers but I like being able to adjust for a comfortable finger position using the 1st stage then having that clean break point.
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For me it is just personal preference and I prefer 2 stage triggers. I have not shot any HIGH end single stage triggers but I like being able to adjust for a comfortable finger position using the 1st stage then having that clean break point.
For me it is just personal preference and I prefer 2 stage triggers. I have not shot any HIGH end single stage triggers but I like being able to adjust for a comfortable finger position using the 1st stage then having that clean break point.
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Same here.
I think airgun manufacturers have to consider that a lot of AG's are given to kids to get them started in shooting and keep the trigger pull on the high side for safety.
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Yep, I often have guests over to shoot airguns. I prefer not to put hair triggers in their hands.
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I leave triggers alone and all have the two stage design. The nice thing about the 2 stage is the 1st stage which tells me I am pulling a trigger that is about to break when I hit the 2nd stage. Natural.
I do have a couple of HWs with a "set back" trigger, customized to the previous owner, and I just leave it that way because it works nice too.
I think AGs have them because they needed two areas safe ahead of the trigger break. A way to make sure all the trigger levers and piston released in sync properly.
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I don’t know I think it’s a lawyer safety thing . Like the mentality is it’s a BB gun and kids are going to play with it.
The guns I played with the other day...I don’t know you pull the trigger back like a 1/4”-1/2” before it hits the second wall, I just call that slop... don’t like it and I don’t know why it’s there.
One time I looked at the safety because I didn’t think the gun was cocked.
I guess it’s just something I’m going have to get used to.
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For me, I like two-stage triggers. They allow me to know exactly when the trigger will release. No guessing about finger pressure. I even have a two-stage trigger on my .270 PB to match my airguns. No relearning on the rare occasion I shoot it anymore.
My triggers are also fairly light, but not crazy light which puts my focus on my aim and not on the trigger. My PB friends just can't shoot my airguns. They pull them before ready every time, so I have to make sure they are aiming good first.
I guess, for me, it's all about accuracy and not the trigger pull, which are very predictable in my case.
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My triggers are also fairly light, but not crazy light which puts my focus on my aim and not on the trigger. My PB friends just can't shoot my airguns. They pull them before ready every time, so I have to make sure they are aiming good first.
I understand what you’re talking about.
My prairie dog gun,Jewel trigger set at about 6 oz took my brother about a half dozen tries before he could put his finger inside the trigger guard and not set the gun off... told him don’t put your finger inside the trigger guard until you’re ready for the gun to fire. That trigger was heavy to me.
My benchrest rifles were set around about 1 ounce... I could put my finger on the trigger and feel it.
I guess it’s all what you’re used to.
My brother has a Benjamin NP2 Trail right now that won’t shoot
The trigger breaks at 6.5 pounds with a bunch of creep.
I sent him some YouTube videos on how to fix the trigger and told him dude you can’t shoot groups with a 6 pound trigger.
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I'm going to say that a lot of it is safety.. especially in a springer. Anytime we tinkerers adjust a trigger we give it the old 'bump test'. Watch some reviews and you'll see even seasoned reviewers cocking break barrels rather roughly. A soft single stage trigger is an accident just waiting to happen. Not all guns have auto safeties.
Now put that same thing in the hands of an unsupervised teen ager or an uneducated adult and you have a bigger problem than a hot cup of coffee from your local Mickey Dee's.
"Caution, contents may be hot.... dumbaz"
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Considering that a Jewell trigger costs about $275, do you really have to ask? Aside from the "lawyer thing", a lot of very good airguns, and firearms come with good 2 stage triggers, and very few people complain. The other alternative for lower end airguns might be a really creepy single stage trigger, that nobody likes. While I haven't tried the "RC rearing" mods, I do have a GTX trigger on my Trail NP, and the trigger is a quite nice 2lb. 7oz. For any kind of field use, you don't want to go much lower.
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I just got to shoot 4 really nice air guns and I realized I can’t stand them.
Air guns are new to me,shooting high-end custom rifles are not.
On a benchrest gun I want 1-2oz’s...On a field hunting gun I want 1-2 lbs
No 1st stage,no creep just put pressure on it and bang it goes off.
Is this a lawyer/safety thing?
I prefer the two stage setup with my Rekord triggers. The 1st stage gives me a bit of warning when the crisp 2nd stage is about to trip. My brother prefers a single stage for his Rekord and adjusts out tab the 1st stage by slightly bending the 1st stage travel tab.......
(https://i.imgur.com/ke4X3Ewl.jpg)
Adjusting out 1st stage travel of a Rekord trigger can be risky if there is too little sear engagement after the adjustment.
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On alot of nice high end ones you certainly can set your triggers up with a nice single stage and light trigger. Myself though prefer a 2 stage trigger. Set around a pound to a pound and a half as I mainly shoot pests.
My Rem 700 .223 I bought used has a jewel single stage trigger which is nice but I'd prefer it to be a 2 stage