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Title: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Sky777 on July 10, 2019, 03:57:08 PM
I bought another PCP air rifle..  the price is $200-$300 range.. anyone guess which gun I bought?
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Wayne52 on July 10, 2019, 04:04:12 PM
ATI Nova Freedom ???
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: wll2506 on July 10, 2019, 04:04:42 PM
I bought another PCP air rifle..  the price is $200-$300 range.. anyone guess which gun I bought?

Nova Liberty !

wll
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Sky777 on July 10, 2019, 04:11:57 PM
ATI Nova Freedom ???

I preordered nova freedom.. this is different rifle. 
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: SoCalZac on July 10, 2019, 05:06:38 PM
Gamo Urban
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: avator on July 10, 2019, 05:20:29 PM
Gamo Urban
+1
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: HunterWhite on July 10, 2019, 05:28:19 PM
Seneca aspen..
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Arch_E on July 10, 2019, 05:56:49 PM
Seneca aspen..


I am so trying to resist....

Congrats! I hope that it's a great shooter!

Archie
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: anti-squirrel on July 10, 2019, 07:02:10 PM
A Disco?
SPA PR900?
BSA Brigadier?
Gamo Urban?
Sentry?
Maximus?
Flash?
Fortitude?
Aspen?
Freedom?

a used Disco?

There's a number of PCPs that can be purchased in that price range depending on where/when you get them.
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Sky777 on July 10, 2019, 08:59:59 PM
It’s an Umarex Gauntlet .22.  I watch YouTube reviews on this gun and it is good.  I am sure some of you guys have gauntlet and post Videos..

What do you guys think about gauntlet?
I like Diana stromrider but after adding regulator  the gun will cost as much as gauntlet.. 

Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: avator on July 10, 2019, 09:10:24 PM
 :-X
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: aluminumfetish on July 10, 2019, 09:27:19 PM
new gun ! :D
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Springrrrr on July 11, 2019, 09:24:54 AM
It’s an Umarex Gauntlet .22.  I watch YouTube reviews on this gun and it is good.  I am sure some of you guys have gauntlet and post Videos..

What do you guys think about gauntlet?
I like Diana stromrider but after adding regulator  the gun will cost as much as gauntlet..

The Gauntlet is probably one of the most controversial PCP made.  The love / hate relationship can be felt coast to coast.

My first dip into PCP's was the Gauntlet in 177.  All you had to do was look at the barrel and the POI would shift dramatically.

Hajimoto started fabricating barrel bands that went around the air cylinder, which in itself did a bit of moving too.  They certainly helped but did not cure the shifting completely.

I did some mods of my own by adding a stronger spring to the factory installed spring at the end of the barrel and attaching steel stock to the receiver and coupling it to the shroud to give it more rigidity.  That cured the POI shift as long as I respected the set up by not banging the barrel around or lifting the gun from the end of the barrel.

In order to up the anti in the accuracy department, you can JB Bore Paste the H*ll out if the barrel by taking it out of the receiver and working it in a manner that has often been described in this forum.  Getting the barrel back in can tear up the "O" rings so extreme caution my be had.

A take down of the trigger and a full polish of the mating parts as well as changing a spring or two will make that trigger a fine single stage unit with a very light and crisp pull.  My Gauntlet trigger is a good as any other of my higher end guns.

I have added a Jefferson State hammer kit and upped the regulator pressure to further comply whith the lighter hammer spring provided with this kit.

At 40 yards it is sometimes difficult to separate the groups made by the Gauntlet vs. the Wolverine "R" I own and although the Wolverine is more consistent, the Gauntlet can stand proud.

The Gauntlet is a tinker's dream and if you are willing to throw in a few extra bucks and do some fun work, it can wind up being as good as many others, but it do need some TLC.
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Sky777 on July 11, 2019, 11:13:15 AM
I ordered yesterday from PA. I thought the gun was shipped from Ohio.. I think  it is actually shipped from Utah distributor. 

So I am getting it today.. I can’t shoot until I get my hand pump and 1/8 connector..

Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Wayne52 on July 11, 2019, 11:18:59 AM
It’s an Umarex Gauntlet .22.  I watch YouTube reviews on this gun and it is good.  I am sure some of you guys have gauntlet and post Videos..

What do you guys think about gauntlet?
I like Diana stromrider but after adding regulator  the gun will cost as much as gauntlet.. 


I've never had one but no doubt that's a really good choice, I'm sure you'll enjoy the pre ordered Nova Freedom when you get it too, they're the cat's meow in my opinion 8)
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Sky777 on July 11, 2019, 11:21:37 AM
Is it ok if I try shooting 2 or 3 shots??
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Wayne52 on July 11, 2019, 11:29:55 AM
If it's got some air in it you can, if it doesn't I'd wait til you got it charged up first.  If you also ordered the Nova Freedom in .22 the cool thing is you can use the mags on both them guns.  Buds Gun Shop has a really good deal on the .22 Gauntlet mags, less than $7 ea.
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Dbez1 on July 11, 2019, 11:40:01 AM
Love the accuracy of my Gauntlet!  Clean the barrel before you shoot it.  Watch Hajimoto’s uTube videos. You’ll learn much.  Even in stock form, given the right conditions, that rifle is good for plinking out to 100 yards.  Handle the barrel carefully though due to POI shift.  Last summer I dispatched 19 invading groundhogs, 17 were with my Gauntlet.  Mine likes JSB15’s best but will shoot others okay also. Best wishes!
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Sky777 on July 11, 2019, 08:52:06 PM
I got my Umarex Gauntlet.22. The rifle is not heavy at all..  the psi gauge on the rifle is at 0. Is it normal??
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Wayne52 on July 11, 2019, 09:18:36 PM
I got my Umarex Gauntlet.22. The rifle is not heavy at all..  the psi gauge on the rifle is at 0. Is it normal??
I've never bought a bottled gun personally so it's possible something like the Gauntlet wouldn't have air in it when they shipped it.
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Sky777 on July 11, 2019, 09:27:47 PM
I got my Umarex Gauntlet.22. The rifle is not heavy at all..  the psi gauge on the rifle is at 0. Is it normal??
I've never bought a bottled gun personally so it's possible something like the Gauntlet wouldn't have air in it when they shipped it.

Maybe.. it’s gonna be good work out when I get my hand pump..
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Wayne52 on July 11, 2019, 09:35:23 PM
I have pumped up a 13ci bottle before with a hand pump and it's really a lot of pumping, I think it was over 300 pumps on an old Benjamin hand pump.
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Sky777 on July 11, 2019, 09:56:11 PM
I have pumped up a 13ci bottle before with a hand pump and it's really a lot of pumping, I think it was over 300 pumps on an old Benjamin hand pump.

I watch video. Exact same gun, and empty air. It takes about 200 pumps to get to 3000 psi.
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: BigBird on July 11, 2019, 10:33:49 PM
I dont know how the gauntlets are but the guns I bought were supposed to ship with some air from the factory.   Something like 1000 psi in them from testing.  My QB Chief had none because of a slow leak and Discovery also had none because of a slow leak.  QB was returned and replacement had the same type of leak problem.  Both guns sealed up fine with a little silicone in the fill port and dry firing.  I would fill your bottle with some amount and let it sit overnight to test. I dont know how you get silicone in a bottle gun.
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Sky777 on July 11, 2019, 10:43:29 PM
I dont know how the gauntlets are but the guns I bought were supposed to ship with some air from the factory.   Something like 1000 psi in them from testing.  My QB Chief had none because of a slow leak and Discovery also had none because of a slow leak.  QB was returned and replacement had the same type of leak problem.  Both guns sealed up fine with a little silicone in the fill port and dry firfirsdont know how you get silicone in a bottle gun.

I have no information at this point..  it should came about 1000 psi..  handpump and 1/8 connectors are on the way.   i will pump it to 3000 psi, and let it sit couple days..  if the rifle does leak, i may try to fix it myself..   maybe put new o ring and install teflon tape.. 
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: BigBird on July 11, 2019, 11:36:46 PM
I dont know how the gauntlets are but the guns I bought were supposed to ship with some air from the factory.   Something like 1000 psi in them from testing.  My QB Chief had none because of a slow leak and Discovery also had none because of a slow leak.  QB was returned and replacement had the same type of leak problem.  Both guns sealed up fine with a little silicone in the fill port and dry firfirsdont know how you get silicone in a bottle gun.

I have no information at this point..  it should came about 1000 psi..  handpump and 1/8 connectors are on the way.   i will pump it to 3000 psi, and let it sit couple days..  if the rifle does leak, i may try to fix it myself..   maybe put new o ring and install teflon tape..

If it does have a leak you will get an undo workout filling to 3k.  It is a regulated gun so you can fill it to maybe 1k (if regulated at 850 psi) and test for a leak without wearing your pump seals out.  If it falls back to zero it may behoove you to take the bottle off and place a few drops of silicone in the gun.  I have never taken one apart so people can chime in but I've heard you have to empty the bottle to take it off.
I wouldnt think an oring is bad already and teflon tape can migrate and cause problems. IF it has a leak it is usually debris in the poppet or in the fill nipple (probably more likely on a traditional pressure tube gun).  If it is a bad leak call PA and they will guide you with what to do.  I don't want you voiding your warranty.  You could still return it for a different gun if that is the case.  That's what I did with my QB Chief and PA was very nice.
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Sky777 on July 11, 2019, 11:49:54 PM
I am trying to get to know my gauntlet.. break shroud is little loose..  the tank is a bit loose..  i can use one hand to twist the tank... i will retighten before i fill it..

Hopefully, nothing major..
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Dbez1 on July 11, 2019, 11:59:31 PM
I am trying to get to know my gauntlet.. break shroud is little loose..  the tank is a bit loose..  i can use one hand to twist the tank... i will retighten before i fill it..

Hopefully, nothing major..
Tighten the tank as much as you comfortably can to make the gauge and fill valve in the right spots. It’s ok if it’s a little loose as it will tighten up when you add air. Do not try to over tighten it.
Title: Re: I bought another PCP air rifle
Post by: Sky777 on July 12, 2019, 12:52:20 AM
Yes.. thanks everyone.  I will hand tight the cylinder, and fill up to 1000 psi. Let’s it leave for couple days..