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Title: Anyone know if there is a significant noise difference between tx200 and hw97?
Post by: Tommyzgunz on April 29, 2019, 07:49:32 AM
Are there any owners of both these guns that can lend some insight to the noise levels of the Air Arms TX200 MKiii and the Weihrach 97kt? Pyramid lists both as the same but I've noticed that sometimes these levels that are given on  some models  are off. Does anyone think one is definitely more backyard friendly than the other or are they so close to not really be discernable ?
Title: Re: Anyone know if there is a significant noise difference between tx200 and hw97?
Post by: Yarddog on April 29, 2019, 09:08:05 AM
With the caveat that I.am always the one with my face on the stock next to the action when it fires, they are pretty much the same,  with the nod maybe going to the 97. They are both pretty quiet
Title: Re: Anyone know if there is a significant noise difference between tx200 and hw97?
Post by: Tommyzgunz on April 29, 2019, 11:38:28 AM
With the caveat that I.am always the one with my face on the stock next to the action when it fires, they are pretty much the same,  with the nod maybe going to the 97. They are both pretty quiet

Thank you. Congratulations on having two amazing guns. Do you like 1 over the other for any reason?
Title: Re: Anyone know if there is a significant noise difference between tx200 and hw97?
Post by: Yarddog on April 29, 2019, 01:20:21 PM
With the caveat that I.am always the one with my face on the stock next to the action when it fires, they are pretty much the same,  with the nod maybe going to the 97. They are both pretty quiet

Thank you. Congratulations on having two amazing guns. Do you like 1 over the other for any reason?
I really hate to admit this...having only had my 97 a couple of weeks, and having had my TX for almost six months...I'm liking the 97 more.  It's HIGHLY accurate, easier to shoot accurately than the TX, but it is twangy, but the accuracy more than makes up for it.  The fit and finish of the TX is unexcelled, and to be honest, I got my TX during the beginning of the revelation that many of them were being received by customers with rust in the barrel.  I cleaned mine before shooting it, no rust noted, but for some reason, it's just not printing as well as I figure it should at the moment.  So, I'll figger that out, both of them like the 14.66 grain H&N FTT.  Both are scoped with UTG compact scopes.  Really glad I have both of them!
Title: Re: Anyone know if there is a significant noise difference between tx200 and hw97?
Post by: Tommyzgunz on April 29, 2019, 03:06:36 PM
With the caveat that I.am always the one with my face on the stock next to the action when it fires, they are pretty much the same,  with the nod maybe going to the 97. They are both pretty quiet

Thank you. Congratulations on having two amazing guns. Do you like 1 over the other for any reason?
I really hate to admit this...having only had my 97 a couple of weeks, and having had my TX for almost six months...I'm liking the 97 more.  It's HIGHLY accurate, easier to shoot accurately than the TX, but it is twangy, but the accuracy more than makes up for it.  The fit and finish of the TX is unexcelled, and to be honest, I got my TX during the beginning of the revelation that many of them were being received by customers with rust in the barrel.  I cleaned mine before shooting it, no rust noted, but for some reason, it's just not printing as well as I figure it should at the moment.  So, I'll figger that out, both of them like the 14.66 grain H&N FTT.  Both are scoped with UTG compact scopes.  Really glad I have both of them!

very nice! Yeah they are both great guns . Too close to decide for many of us lol.
Title: Re: Anyone know if there is a significant noise difference between tx200 and hw97?
Post by: c_m_shooter on April 29, 2019, 05:23:03 PM
They are about the same asuming a similar tune.  If one has a loose fitting spring guide it will twang louder than the other.  That said, they are both quiet.  Spring guns in general seem louder to the shooter than to bystanders because you have your face on the stock.
Title: Re: Anyone know if there is a significant noise difference between tx200 and hw97?
Post by: Arch_E on April 29, 2019, 05:31:53 PM
...  Spring guns in general seem louder to the shooter than to bystanders because you have your face on the stock.

That's interesting. My wife perceives my HW97K to be louder than my Crosman Nitro Venom Dusk (both .177). For me, the 97 has more twang but less pow-pop, with the Venom definitely louder [this is with me shooting]. My wife disagrees, stating that the total sound difference is very little--with the 97 being louder.

Archie
Title: Re: Anyone know if there is a significant noise difference between tx200 and hw97?
Post by: Tommyzgunz on April 29, 2019, 06:20:58 PM
They are about the same asuming a similar tune.  If one has a loose fitting spring guide it will twang louder than the other.  That said, they are both quiet.  Spring guns in general seem louder to the shooter than to bystanders because you have your face on the stock.


excellent thank you

Title: Re: Anyone know if there is a significant noise difference between tx200 and hw97?
Post by: Brazos on April 29, 2019, 11:00:39 PM
I don't have a HW97 but a number of HW rifles.  My TX200 is the quietest of all my spring rifles.  It's the only rifle that has baffles in the shroud.  Like CM Shooter said a lot depends on the tune.  My TX is tuned for sub 12fpe but I have other rifles well under 12fpe.  I am sure the noise difference between the two rifles in question are similiar enough it should not be a criteria in your consideration on buying either rifle.  Let me make it easy for you.  Go to Krale Shooting Sports in the Netherlands (or wherever they are) and order the HW97 for around $400 shipped to your door in 3 days.  Order the 12fpe model in 177.  Then shoot it and never look back.  So your choice is really simple after all.  The TX is great but not for the price difference you can get thru buying from Krale.  The HW is just as good so take the extra $$ and apply it to a better scope or a bunch of pellets. 
Title: Re: Anyone know if there is a significant noise difference between tx200 and hw97?
Post by: EMrider on April 30, 2019, 10:51:17 AM
I don't have a HW97 but a number of HW rifles.  My TX200 is the quietest of all my spring rifles.  It's the only rifle that has baffles in the shroud.  Like CM Shooter said a lot depends on the tune.  My TX is tuned for sub 12fpe but I have other rifles well under 12fpe.  I am sure the noise difference between the two rifles in question are similiar enough it should not be a criteria in your consideration on buying either rifle.  Let me make it easy for you.  Go to Krale Shooting Sports in the Netherlands (or wherever they are) and order the HW97 for around $400 shipped to your door in 3 days.  Order the 12fpe model in 177.  Then shoot it and never look back.  So your choice is really simple after all.  The TX is great but not for the price difference you can get thru buying from Krale.  The HW is just as good so take the extra $$ and apply it to a better scope or a bunch of pellets. 

Great advice here.  Go hw97k given the value from Krale and enjoy.
R
Title: Re: Anyone know if there is a significant noise difference between tx200 and hw97?
Post by: K_sqrd on April 30, 2019, 01:43:29 PM
Here's a comparison chart from Straight Shooters...

http://www.straightshooters.com/decibel-ranking-of-airguns.html (http://www.straightshooters.com/decibel-ranking-of-airguns.html)

HTH
Title: Re: Anyone know if there is a significant noise difference between tx200 and hw97?
Post by: Tommyzgunz on April 30, 2019, 02:45:14 PM
I don't have a HW97 but a number of HW rifles.  My TX200 is the quietest of all my spring rifles.  It's the only rifle that has baffles in the shroud.  Like CM Shooter said a lot depends on the tune.  My TX is tuned for sub 12fpe but I have other rifles well under 12fpe.  I am sure the noise difference between the two rifles in question are similiar enough it should not be a criteria in your consideration on buying either rifle.  Let me make it easy for you.  Go to Krale Shooting Sports in the Netherlands (or wherever they are) and order the HW97 for around $400 shipped to your door in 3 days.  Order the 12fpe model in 177.  Then shoot it and never look back.  So your choice is really simple after all.  The TX is great but not for the price difference you can get thru buying from Krale.  The HW is just as good so take the extra $$ and apply it to a better scope or a bunch of pellets.

Nice price!
Title: Re: Anyone know if there is a significant noise difference between tx200 and hw97?
Post by: Tommyzgunz on April 30, 2019, 02:46:25 PM
Here's a comparison chart from Straight Shooters...

http://www.straightshooters.com/decibel-ranking-of-airguns.html (http://www.straightshooters.com/decibel-ranking-of-airguns.html)

HTH

Thanks , I had no idea the R7 was quietest on that list
Title: Re: Anyone know if there is a significant noise difference between tx200 and hw97?
Post by: fwbsport on April 30, 2019, 03:41:40 PM
Compared to the HW97 or R1 the R7 sounds only a "plop". 
Never had the TX200 but straightshooters has not only graphs on sound but also actual velocity tests of several air rifles.

I've loved, hated, and finally loved my HW97K.  The trick is keeping the screws tight!

By the way, anything above 80 decibels is considered damaging to ears without protection by public safety standards or OSHA.

The thing is I have been noticing my own ears going a bit deaf after shooting the Walthers and the HW57.

Lastly, the sound my HW97 K-T makes according to my wife is a huge and powerful wrist rocket!  I hear "buzz" by the spring next to my ear while she hears a slingshot noise.

So what we shooters "hear" is not what bystanders hear, and hearing protection is not leaving us who have left firearms.