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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Duckfish on April 16, 2019, 08:29:52 PM
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I had a couple of these in the past and sold them when I wanted to buy something else. I alway figured I could replace them whenever I wanted. Nooooo! But I found one used and its on the way. ;D. Now they have a carbine stock you can get for it and LW barrels with ldc's
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Love mine.
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Yes Sir, enough love for three of them... a .177, .20, and .22.
I'm not sure where you source the barrels, but I rolled my own from LWs... and they get various attachments ;)
Got this LW barrel with 1/2-20 on the choked muzzle from FX (right after they went to smooth twist)...
(https://i.imgur.com/YsB5o0i.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xdgz2zh.jpg)
Some grips from Laurent (in France) when he was still making them...
(https://i.imgur.com/raVfW7T.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3Xy2XYj.jpg)
I'm glad you were able to get one. They are truly unique. Two-stage pump in a pistol package... large pistol package, but that is what's necessary to make the horsepower ;D
The trigger does take some getting used to. It's smooth but there's no "wall of glass" to break. It just kind of rolls over the break. It is certainly pretty good but not match grade... imo
And you are so right to point out that we tend to think we can always get a replacement... I learned (but not soon enough) that in this hobby, things come and go pretty fast -
Wyo
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Cool guns.
https://maxarmory.com/products/zoraki-hp01-ultra-22-black-air-pistol?variant=26141866817
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LW barrels at
Chambers airgun spares
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Love them YES!!
Picked mine up off ebay about a year ago. Came with the flush .22 barrel (I'm not partial to .22's) but it was a great deal. Got on Chambers email list for an extended (threaded) .177 barrel and scooped it up the same day they came in. The next day they were out of stock. Mike at TKO threaded me an ldc.
Amazing accuracy, and powerful!
Where are the extended stocks available? Only ones I've seen in stock are at Pellpax and they told me just this week that they don't sell or ship to the US. I want one of those stocks!!
(https://i.postimg.cc/PrKjQYbz/Alecto-Zoraki-HP01.jpg)
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I had a couple of these in the past and sold them when I wanted to buy something else. I alway figured I could replace them whenever I wanted. Nooooo! But I found one used and its on the way. ;D. Now they have a carbine stock you can get for it and LW barrels with ldc's
Ed - Is your new one an Ultra? Mine is not. I understand that the Ultra can go four pumps, but over three on the non-Ultra's risks blowing the valve apart.
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Maybe here sometime in the future. I just bought two from Amazon about 8 months ago. Regards, Tom
https://www.ozarksource.com/legacy-sports-zoraki-hp01-modular-stock-hp01ms.html (https://www.ozarksource.com/legacy-sports-zoraki-hp01-modular-stock-hp01ms.html)
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Maybe here sometime in the future. I just bought two from Amazon about 8 months ago. Regards, Tom
https://www.ozarksource.com/legacy-sports-zoraki-hp01-modular-stock-hp01ms.html (https://www.ozarksource.com/legacy-sports-zoraki-hp01-modular-stock-hp01ms.html)
Two on Amazon, amazing. I've been looking for them for the last year.
Thanks for that lead. I just tried registering but when I hit SUBMIT it doesn't seem to take. Will try again tomorrow.
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Cool guns.
https://maxarmory.com/products/zoraki-hp01-ultra-22-black-air-pistol?variant=26141866817 (https://maxarmory.com/products/zoraki-hp01-ultra-22-black-air-pistol?variant=26141866817)
Zoraki HP01 Ultra .22 Cal Black - Multi-Pump Pneumatic Air Pistol (Webley Alecto)Muzzle Velocity:
1 Pump 93 m/s or 208.035 mph
2 Pump 135 m/s or 301.986 mph
3 Pump 155 m/s or 346.725 mph
4 Pump 175 m/s or 391.464 mph
Rather ODD how they advertise them in m/s or mph.
Two on Amazon, amazing. I've been looking for them for the last year.
I looked on Amazon and these don't look like Webley Alecto:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Webley+Alecto&ref=nb_sb_noss (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Webley+Alecto&ref=nb_sb_noss)
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Maybe here sometime in the future. I just bought two from Amazon about 8 months ago. Regards, Tom
https://www.ozarksource.com/legacy-sports-zoraki-hp01-modular-stock-hp01ms.html (https://www.ozarksource.com/legacy-sports-zoraki-hp01-modular-stock-hp01ms.html)
Bagnall in the UK still had those modular stocks a month ago.
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Bagnall and Kirkwood in the UK.
Probably the modular stocks can be ordered thru MaxArmory via "group buy."
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Two on Amazon, amazing. I've been looking for them for the last year.
I looked on Amazon and these don't look like Webley Alecto:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Webley+Alecto&ref=nb_sb_noss (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Webley+Alecto&ref=nb_sb_noss)
We were referring to the modular stock, not the gun. :D
Bagnall and Kirkwood in the UK.
Probably the modular stocks can be ordered thru MaxArmory via "group buy."
Possibly. Most of those UK guys don't or won't ship to the US.
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Two on Amazon, amazing. I've been looking for them for the last year.
I looked on Amazon and these don't look like Webley Alecto:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Webley+Alecto&ref=nb_sb_noss (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Webley+Alecto&ref=nb_sb_noss)
We were referring to the modular stock, not the gun. :D
Bagnall and Kirkwood in the UK.
Probably the modular stocks can be ordered thru MaxArmory via "group buy."
Possibly. Most of those UK guys don't or won't ship to the US.
B and K does.
Shipping was around 10 or so in their currency when I inquired about it.
I hesitated because I do not even have the pistol for it yet, lol!
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Thanks for the tip Richard, but now that stock will have to wait. I just bought this HW35 Luxus.
(https://i.postimg.cc/bYx4QjbQ/20190417-144852.jpg)
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FWIW, I have both versions, branded Ultra and not... the power plants and internals are the same.
I can do four pumps at 7000' elev, but at sea-level the pressure relief valve would probably open on the forth pump... make sure the relief valve is working properly and don't defeat the mechanism... you'll be happy ;D
Wyo
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FWIW, I have both versions, branded Ultra and not... the power plants and internals are the same.
I can do four pumps at 7000' elev, but at sea-level the pressure relief valve would probably open on the forth pump... make sure the relief valve is working properly and don't defeat the mechanism... you'll be happy ;D
Wyo
Gary - Have you messed with that valve setting screw at all?
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Yes I have, Dennis, just to see what it would do. It works perfectly, just like you would expect. I returned it to the factory setting but can't remember the turns-out setting-
Wyo
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Yes I have, Dennis, just to see what it would do. It works perfectly, just like you would expect. I returned it to the factory setting but can't remember the turns-out setting-
Wyo
I've left mine as factory. Didn't see a need for changing it, so I'm curious as to why you reset yours back to factory.
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I changed it just to see what it would do... after that, I saw no reason for the change and returned to the factory setting (which was fine for my elevation).
Wyo
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I've ordered lots of stuff from chambers. I just put my name on the waiting list for the carbine attachment
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I had one, mainly on an " Academic Interest" .
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img661/5892/Q5lNVf.jpg)
Accuracy with the OEM barrel was not too good,
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img909/5222/zatiSx.jpg)
so I rebarreled it with a slightly longer 0.20" cal. L-W blank, I used all the available space in the case, and just short enough to not make pumping an issue, LOL!
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img538/4984/rOps8B.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img910/1500/qOvLtc.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img908/756/jIj9wA.jpg)
Got tired of pumping and sold it because it didn't do anything my re-barrelled Steyr wouldn't do:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/7669/gydQ9y.jpg)
They are good guns, and at IWA, Zoraki told me they are working on some improvements.
Worth it to keep an eye out.
Keep well and shoot straight!
HM
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They are good guns, and at IWA, Zoraki told me they are working on some improvements.
It was my understanding that they are no longer made, but your quote above somewhat implies that they will be reintroduced in production. Is this true?
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Evidently there is a mark V, who knows if it will ever be available in the US
ALECTO MK. V
1 review
The Webley Alecto. Pure genius is what the Alecto is! Developed using very precise tolerances normally reserved for top end Match Air Pistols. The Webley Alecto has earned its place at No.1 and this is due to its extremely good looks and usability combined with an amazingly accurate precision rifled steel barrel with a recoil-free Power Plant! The New MK. V model features upgraded Match Trigger and new Soft Touch Ergonomic Grip. Left Hand Available for Extra.
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Ed, that sounds encouraging... especially about the upgraded trigger. I would love to see what they've done.
The Alecto is the only pistol I have that I can't improve the trigger. The reason is that the trigger and link (link engages the sear) are anchored to the frame where they don't get the same expansion (from the pressure build) as the drop sear and hammer get. What would normally be stable with a small engagement becomes unsafe when you pump the gun... takes some getting used to.
Wyo
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They are good guns, and at IWA, Zoraki told me they are working on some improvements.
It was my understanding that they are no longer made, but your quote above somewhat implies that they will be reintroduced in production. Is this true?
Dennis
I don't know where you got that info. And your post makes it sound like you don't believe me, LOL!
My questions to the Zoraki rep we're more technical and mainly about performance of the projected version, I didn't ask either at IWA if they would continue building the old model.
Frankly, I am not too interested in the gun itself, for the price you can get a Bandit kit and easily be in any of the energy levels the Alecto was making.
At 300 fps, I can get 64 regulated shots so the idea of a SSP sort of becomes a moot point for plinking.
At 700 fps, yield is around 25 regulated shots.
Pumping up back the Bandit takes less than 30 strokes.
As interesting as the idea is from the technical standpoint, I don't see a general interest in it.
Sorry to be so blunt, JMHO.
Keep well and shoot straight!
HM
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They are good guns, and at IWA, Zoraki told me they are working on some improvements.
It was my understanding that they are no longer made, but your quote above somewhat implies that they will be reintroduced in production. Is this true?
Dennis
I don't know where you got that info. And your post makes it sound like you don't believe me, LOL!
My questions to the Zoraki rep we're more technical and mainly about performance of the projected version, I didn't ask either at IWA if they would continue building the old model.
Frankly, I am not too interested in the gun itself, for the price you can get a Bandit kit and easily be in any of the energy levels the Alecto was making.
At 300 fps, I can get 64 regulated shots so the idea of a SSP sort of becomes a moot point for plinking.
At 700 fps, yield is around 25 regulated shots.
Pumping up back the Bandit takes less than 30 strokes.
As interesting as the idea is from the technical standpoint, I don't see a general interest in it.
Sorry to be so blunt, JMHO.
Keep well and shoot straight!
HM
Hector, com'on. You know I always believe you. It was more that I wanted to know that they are still being made, and improved!!
I really like shooting my HP-01, when I feel up to the task of pumping it up that is. This thing is god awful at three strokes without pinching oneself, let alone for those people who can go four pumps. It's the main reason I don't shoot it very often.
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I shoot mine all the time at 3 pumps. Never is a big deal. Technique I guess.
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Technique I guess.
Or.....maybe I'm just lazy! ???
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No, it does get kind of annoying after 30 shots. The palm of my hand starts to get sore from the rear sight. It’s not my long shooting session gun.
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Hector, com'on. You know I always believe you. It was more that I wanted to know that they are still being made, and improved!!
I really like shooting my HP-01, when I feel up to the task of pumping it up that is. This thing is god awful at three strokes without pinching oneself, let alone for those people who can go four pumps. It's the main reason I don't shoot it very often.
No Sweat Dennis! (I did insert an "LOL").
;-)
As a camping gun it does present some advantages, though it would not be my first choice, but with current PCP technology, TO ME, it is only a technological/academic interest.
I guess we all dream with the 12 ft-lbs SSP.
;-)
Keep well and shoot straight!
HM
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Hector, com'on. You know I always believe you. It was more that I wanted to know that they are still being made, and improved!!
I really like shooting my HP-01, when I feel up to the task of pumping it up that is. This thing is god awful at three strokes without pinching oneself, let alone for those people who can go four pumps. It's the main reason I don't shoot it very often.
No Sweat Dennis! (I did insert an "LOL").
;-)
As a camping gun it does present some advantages, though it would not be my first choice, but with current PCP technology, TO ME, it is only a technological/academic interest.
I guess we all dream with the 12 ft-lbs SSP.
;-)
Keep well and shoot straight!
HM
I know Hector, just jabbin' you a bit. :D
Yeah, a 12 ft. lb. SSP would suit me just right! For now though, I'm happy "despatching" (as the Brit's would say) rats with my Alecto at 7ft. lbs. And the accuracy and excellent trigger are fun as well! Amazingly quiet as well with a TKO.
I see your point as it being a tech/academic interest, but I'm very happy that someone did take that interest and create something of it.
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Pumping does get tiring after a while, especially when you are bench-shooting it.
You know, it seems odd the Alecto has only 1 slot for optics, lol!
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Pumping does get tiring after a while, especially when you are bench-shooting it.
You know, it seems odd the Alecto has only 1 slot for optics, lol!
That one slot works great for a Red Dot though (see my pic in reply #5).
Some people file a second slot for scopes. I don't like the idea of doing that to a gun that is so expensive and parts-scarce though.
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Alecto and his buddies, when you click on them they turn right side up.
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Rick, I also think that the one slot on the top rail is odd. They have full picatinny for the accessary rail... ???
For sure this is not everyone's cup of tea, but for those interested, cutting addition slots is really easy.
Get a 7/32" straight, fine-cut round file, measure, mark-off, and mask for a file guide...
(https://i.imgur.com/XSuZUo3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/m6u1ybv.jpg)
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The 7/32" (.219) is just a little over the picatinny dimension (.206).
Easy peezy, I can have the slot cut with a file before I would have the fixturing and zeros on the milling machine. And..
using the rear set of rings as the cocking handle makes pumping much, much easier. But I still have one that is unmolested in the box ;D
Wyo
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But I still have one that is unmolested in the box ;D
SHOOT!! Wish I had read this five minutes ago. I just put in an order from Chambers and could have gotten an extra for myself! :-\
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Haha, I hope it all goes well though, seriously. I guess Chambers is the main (or only) source for parts?...
The one I have in the box was purchased for spare parts when I heard they were being discontinued. Haven't had to use that contingency yet, and I won't if the parts are available. But so far, they have been very reliable...
Wyo
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Haha, I hope it all goes well though, seriously. I guess Chambers is the main (or only) source for parts?...
The one I have in the box was purchased for spare parts when I heard they were being discontinued. Haven't had to use that contingency yet, and I won't if the parts are available. But so far, they have been very reliable...
Wyo
That's what I've done with all of my Baikals (bought spares). That way I can do mods without fear of losing the ability to make them original in case I sell them. I won't touch anything without spares. I just didn't think to order the Alecto part, but I'm not planning to do that scope mod. It was Rick67 that brought it up.
Chambers is great though. wish their shipping was a bit faster. John Knibbs Intl. is only about 7-8 days, but they don;t have nearly the stuff in stock that Chambers has.
I ended up spending $61 for my HW35 rebuild today so there was really no more $$ for a spare Alecto part. Not this week anyway. ;)