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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Projectiles => Boolit and Pellet Casting => Topic started by: PeterL on February 05, 2019, 10:09:41 AM
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Other than NOE, who else sells sizing dies?
Thanks.
Peter
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RCBS, Lee, Redding, Lyman
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RCBS, Lee, Redding, Lyman
Thanks Frank. Which one is best to order from without a dramatic wait time?
Peter
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Peter,
IMO sizing is a waste of time. Been there ,done that.
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RCBS, Lee, Redding, Lyman
Thanks Frank. Which one is best to order from without a dramatic wait time?
Peter
I have had good luck with LEE from Midway or Amazon.
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Peter,
IMO sizing is a waste of time. Been there ,done that.
Hi Don,
I thought the same way earlier into airgunning. However, when it comes to bullets and gaining the best accuracy and performance, it’s honestly a no brainer. However, others think otherwise.
Peter
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RCBS, Lee, Redding, Lyman
Thanks Frank. Which one is best to order from without a dramatic wait time?
Peter
I have had good luck with LEE from Midway or Amazon.
Thanks Bob. Appreciate that bit of info.
Peter
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I have a few Lee dies, and if they happen to come out at the advertised size, and round, you are lucky.... AFAIK, all the other companies, other than NOE, you have to change the entire die every time you want a different size, and Lee are the cheapest at around $20, and some brands are much more.... Once you purchase the NOE die set, all you have to buy to change sizes are the bushings, at $9.95 ea.... I have a huge collection for a fraction of what it would have cost from anyone else....
IMO there is just no other sizing system that makes sense.... and NOE are also the only company that makes and stocks airgun sizes....
Bob
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Bob that is what I have been wanting to hear. It's very confusing (to me) trying to get started in casting as to what equipment to get.
When you say "NOE die set" I am assuming you mean "Push Through Size Die Body" and the bushings that fit into it for your desired bullet diameter.
What press will be best used with this set, or will it work in any presses available. I hear the Lee top punch is a cheapy, but that's just one I know about right now.
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Noe is the easiest to open up to exact size. I use lee type but make them myself. If I was starting I would go with NOE. I have custom sized a lot of the sizers for people.
The only issue I have with it is to long for the hand size to close. Still works but you have to remove to adapter to close to put in tool box. I use the lee hand sizer so I can take with me and size while shooting. Sometimes changing the size will change how good a bullet shoots
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I have a few Lee dies, and if they happen to come out at the advertised size, and round, you are lucky.... AFAIK, all the other companies, other than NOE, you have to change the entire die every time you want a different size, and Lee are the cheapest at around $20, and some brands are much more.... Once you purchase the NOE die set, all you have to buy to change sizes are the bushings, at $9.95 ea.... I have a huge collection for a fraction of what it would have cost from anyone else....
IMO there is just no other sizing system that makes sense.... and NOE are also the only company that makes and stocks airgun sizes....
Bob
So how does one use the Noe Dies? With a press? If so, are they compatible with Lee presses?
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Yes, you use them with a press, I have the inexpensive Lee bench press, and it works great with the NOE dies.... You get the "Push Through Size Die Body" and then "Body Bushings" in whatever diameters you want.... You will also need a "Push Rod" for each caliber you want to size.... I would suggest you get your barrel groove diameter and 0.001" smaller for each caliber you want to size.... I have one pushrod plus 5 bushings for each caliber that I shoot, groove diameter, 0.001" and 0.002" both under and over....
Bob
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I have a few Lee dies, and if they happen to come out at the advertised size, and round, you are lucky.... AFAIK, all the other companies, other than NOE, you have to change the entire die every time you want a different size, and Lee are the cheapest at around $20, and some brands are much more.... Once you purchase the NOE die set, all you have to buy to change sizes are the bushings, at $9.95 ea.... I have a huge collection for a fraction of what it would have cost from anyone else....
IMO there is just no other sizing system that makes sense.... and NOE are also the only company that makes and stocks airgun sizes....
Bob
After doing some more research, I purchased everything I needed from NOE. For all the parts I needed, their is no one beating the price. Thank you all for your inputs and experiences. It really helped make my decision very easy. Thanks.
Peter
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Yes, you use them with a press, I have the inexpensive Lee bench press, and it works great with the NOE dies.... You get the "Push Through Size Die Body" and then "Body Bushings" in whatever diameters you want.... You will also need a "Push Rod" for each caliber you want to size.... I would suggest you get your barrel groove diameter and 0.001" smaller for each caliber you want to size.... I have one pushrod plus 5 bushings for each caliber that I shoot, groove diameter, 0.001" and 0.002" both under and over....
Bob
Awesome, thanks Bob. Funny I've looked at Noe's site several times, but it wasn't clear how the sizers worked.
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Here is a list of many videos on using NOE sizers etc.
https://www.google.com/search?q=noe+bullet+sizer&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS656US663&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiu9tP-hqbgAhVH6YMKHWYsBWoQ_AUIECgD&biw=1366&bih=626 (https://www.google.com/search?q=noe+bullet+sizer&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS656US663&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiu9tP-hqbgAhVH6YMKHWYsBWoQ_AUIECgD&biw=1366&bih=626)
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PeterL. I been tellin ya, Ain't I been tellin Ya? ;) ;D 8)
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DON C. There are long range shooters, and record holders here, Testers Here, and at least two national match winners, along with Top Gun Builders of cast and swaged bullets along with at least four of the most accurate AG's to grace the planet. . We all size, and know what it takes for ultimate accuracy.
No disrespect meant Sir, but if you really can't see the difference, I can't help but think either your shooting equipment, or other issues or abilities keep you from knowing, or realizing the difference. Whether it be AirGuns or Powder Burners.
The Differences are HUGE!!!
Knife
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PeterL. I been tellin ya, Ain't I been tellin Ya? ;) ;D 8)
8) you sure have mike. Lol. I finally listened ;D.
Peter
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NOE has just replenished their sizing bushings and added a few new sizes.... http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=564_104 (http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=564_104)
Bob
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I have a few Lee dies, and if they happen to come out at the advertised size, and round, you are lucky.... AFAIK, all the other companies, other than NOE, you have to change the entire die every time you want a different size, and Lee are the cheapest at around $20, and some brands are much more.... Once you purchase the NOE die set, all you have to buy to change sizes are the bushings, at $9.95 ea.... I have a huge collection for a fraction of what it would have cost from anyone else....
IMO there is just no other sizing system that makes sense.... and NOE are also the only company that makes and stocks airgun sizes....
Bob
Thanks for the input! I decide to go with NOE moulds, handles, dies and bushings along with other NOE offerings starting out. I'm looking forward to quality cast in the future. The 4 cavity HP mould I selected might be a bit much for a newb to start out with, but it will be a good learning experience if nothing else.
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I am using NOE pellet dies for resizing the heads and skirts etc,
and they work perfectly, in the way I am using them etc.
See this post with photo's in #32 post.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=154633.msg155705434#new (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=154633.msg155705434#new)
TT
I think you'll like it, once you learn the ropes, like anything else, we do. ;)
Tia,
Don
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Still trying Don!
(https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPbkwcHgNc94Q-GSPjudtyRnz8LdOxFozdxmJAe)
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPbkwcHgNc94Q-GSPjudtyRnz8LdOxFozdxmJAe
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Does this show?
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOKKqUF2M7e-gso6CGHIQNA-odi6EtK8Fgjogt6UMbx-bQ3FQ_J2DNVtU0bUxEwRA/photo/AF1QipOyNB0sEoBPY8o30wUQxBxPhfg6jdhT5Nm4uyrc?key=QjNWbWdFcUdtOUNlY1BPbXVHS3FlTDF5X0U1MUF3
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Does this show?
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOKKqUF2M7e-gso6CGHIQNA-odi6EtK8Fgjogt6UMbx-bQ3FQ_J2DNVtU0bUxEwRA/photo/AF1QipOyNB0sEoBPY8o30wUQxBxPhfg6jdhT5Nm4uyrc?key=QjNWbWdFcUdtOUNlY1BPbXVHS3FlTDF5X0U1MUF3 (https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOKKqUF2M7e-gso6CGHIQNA-odi6EtK8Fgjogt6UMbx-bQ3FQ_J2DNVtU0bUxEwRA/photo/AF1QipOyNB0sEoBPY8o30wUQxBxPhfg6jdhT5Nm4uyrc?key=QjNWbWdFcUdtOUNlY1BPbXVHS3FlTDF5X0U1MUF3)
It's kind of a small hole, but yes I see it.
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What happens when you click on it?
Trig, were you making a funny because of the small group? ;D I guess I'm still a little slow this morning. :( :D
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What happens when you click on it?
Trig, were you making a funny because of the small group? ;D I guess I'm still a little slow this morning. :( :D
Yes I was. :D The link works fine. ;)
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Does this show?
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOKKqUF2M7e-gso6CGHIQNA-odi6EtK8Fgjogt6UMbx-bQ3FQ_J2DNVtU0bUxEwRA/photo/AF1QipOyNB0sEoBPY8o30wUQxBxPhfg6jdhT5Nm4uyrc?key=QjNWbWdFcUdtOUNlY1BPbXVHS3FlTDF5X0U1MUF3
Mike you need to practice more 8). I think you hit the target only once. Typical shotgun group ;D. Just teasing. Awesome shooting brother.
Peter
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Oh man I'm getting old and SLOW. ;D
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I shot a group of 5 yesterday at 80 that were even smaller. They were the MP .25 mold made for the Huben. Unreal! 8)
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Nice shooting and great casting.
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Does this show?
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOKKqUF2M7e-gso6CGHIQNA-odi6EtK8Fgjogt6UMbx-bQ3FQ_J2DNVtU0bUxEwRA/photo/AF1QipOyNB0sEoBPY8o30wUQxBxPhfg6jdhT5Nm4uyrc?key=QjNWbWdFcUdtOUNlY1BPbXVHS3FlTDF5X0U1MUF3
Nice group but only 3 shots and ya missed tha orange dot! LOL ;D