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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Jaycee on December 19, 2018, 07:34:59 PM
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I just wondered if any other owners of this gun have experienced similar problems, I have tried 4 scopes from my other guns, already zeroed in on those guns. I just can not get the POI high enough at 15 yards, my scopes are maxed out and it is still shooting a good 6 inches low! I am asking for an exchange because there must be something seriously wrong with it. I can accept one scope not adjusting for it but 4 and they are maxed out for height, any ideas? Thanks, Neil.
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I would send it back. Sounds like the barrel is pointing down.
You could probably fix it with adjustable mounts. But that would be a
Extra expense.
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fill out there online contact, return, RMA request form
you should have that contact info.
tell them your wanting to send it back and requesting a return label.
dont just email or call for assistance, that will not work.
the online contact form for returns and RMA is the fastest way to get anywhere with HatsanUSA.
you should have no problems if you follow the instructions.
good luck
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Thanks I have filled out their RMA request, a bit disappointing since this was on back order and now I will have to wait to return this and get a replacement sent, shame stores don't test guns before they ship them, or is that just too time consuming? Seems like it would save them a lot of money in having to pay the additional shipping costs.
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The Flashpup that I just bought from gendoc had the same issue. I had low rings with a 32 mm scope and could not get enough elevation at 15 yards. I switched to high rings and a 40 mm scope and now have full adjustments. I know it shouldn’t matter. I think my trouble was that I had Weaver style rings and not Picatiny ones. The cross bar/bolt didn’t sit down in the Pic rail like they would have in a Weaver mount. The high rings I chose were Dovetail. Problem solved. I am very happy with the accercy.
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The Flashpup has a very poor scope mount and will likely have shifting problems or bad scope alignment to barrel bore. How the rail is mounted on each end lacks rigidity and is quite flimsy.
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Thanks for the input I might look at changing my order to something a bit better, Neil.
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The Flashpup has a very poor scope mount and will likely have shifting problems or bad scope alignment to barrel bore. How the rail is mounted on each end lacks rigidity and is quite flimsy.
That is part of the reason I got a Flash, instead of the Flashpup. I was concerned with the scope mounts, when I saw the pictures of them. I also didn't want to have a scope mounted that high, but that's most pups anyway. That being said, I've see a lot of people with the pup that have had great accuracy. It could be a matter of scope mount issues, as previously mentioned. It could also be a bad barrel too. The barrel on my .22 was a bit iffy, but Hatsan sent me a replacement barrel and it shoots fine now. A friend of mine is using it for pests at his house now.
I wasn't expecting top notch when I got the Flash, so I knew what I was getting into. I also knew I would tear it apart the minute I got it,lol. I don't know that you should give up on it though. It is a lot of gun for the $$, especially with some fine tuning. Typical Hatsan really, rough around the edges, but can be turned into so much more with no extra parts and some elbow grease. I don't know of many $200-400 guns that can be made to do so much. Obviously, they aren't the gun for someone who doesn't want to touch their gun, and isn't comfortable tuning. That just happens to be the most enjoyable part for me. After you get them right, they're pretty solid. Well under 8lbs scoped doesn't hurt either.
That whole backorder part does complicate things though... Just because they are listed as backordered, doesn't mean Hatsan doesn't have them or the parts to fix them fwiw. I could understand getting something else as well, and I'm not saying Hatsan hung the moon here. I do like the design of the Flash/Flashpup, and the simplicity of it. There is so little to go wrong with the design, and they're easy to work on/modify. You can see my sig, and what I was able to get out of them. It is a matter of money really. If you want something you can make into most anything, and can't spend a lot of money, get a Hatsan. If you have more money, get something nicer :D
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From my brief shooting experience whenever I have a poi issue, I added electrical tape as liner on the rear scope rings. I tighten the front rings first then the rear rings. Pls correct me if this is a wrong approach.
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The Flashpup has a very poor scope mount and will likely have shifting problems or bad scope alignment to barrel bore. How the rail is mounted on each end lacks rigidity and is quite flimsy.
Maybe so but the ones that I have had and shot work very well and are very accurate with a lot of shots down range
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I had the same problem as Jaycee with a new Flash Pup. The only way the to get the POI high enough was the remove the scope rail and shim the rear at the mounting screw. I decided to return the air gun and exchange it for something different. I was also dissatisfied with the cocking function.
Charlie,
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Thanks for the replies guys but working on the gun to fix it is just not going to happen. I know it is not a high priced gun but I do expect a gun to at least be able to shoot close to what it is being aimed at. I just do not have the time or inclination to start working on it, I wanted to design a new shroud for it to make them available for other people but it was never my intention to have to start fixing it out of the box. I do understand those who tear them down and work on them as soon as they get them but I am not one of those people, I like to be able to use something and then only fix it if it breaks, not fix it as soon as it arrives. I might consider looking for something a bit better, but my main goal was to design something for these guns to make them quieter, possibly modify the factory shroud, or remove it and replace it with something that works, now it will be a wait and see project, Happy Christmas to all my customers and GTA members, Neil.
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I have a Pup in .22 that has the same issue with shooting low. I also elected to shim the rear of the rail with a cut peice of credit card. Removed one screw, drilled a hole in the small plastic peice I cut and remounted. Shoots dime groups with multiple types of pellets from 40 yards. Took about 10 min. to cut & install & 10 more to zero scope. Still holds zero 2 months later & many days of shooting.
I agree that we shouldn't have to do this to a new gun, but everything else seemed really nice for the money. (got it on sale as a referb).