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Title: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: mcoulter on October 22, 2018, 05:11:09 PM
10/28/2018 edit

The data collection survey is launched.  Please see this post:

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=150065.msg1532538#msg1532538 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=150065.msg1532538#msg1532538)
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: mcoulter on October 22, 2018, 05:39:37 PM
Sorry, one clarification:

This is "phase 1" of the project.  I will be taking the collected data and building a web survey around it.  I will circle back  and share that actual survey link.  It won't be a google sheet but a more structured survey with questions and choices  :-)

And if you prefer to reply here with a compressor make and model I would be glad to add it to the list!
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: bandg on October 22, 2018, 06:18:21 PM
I'll start-
Tuxing 220v auto shutoff model-used only to fill guns directly
Yong Heng 110v non auto shutoff model-used only to fill guns directly
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: Motorhead on October 22, 2018, 06:19:30 PM
Omega needs a few sub categories.

Alpha 90 ( Original w/ finned gearbox & bare aluminum motor/ gearbox )
Air Charger which looks like the Alpha ( new style with solid gearbox & painted grey )
Super Charger ( In the RED enclosure )
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: gendoc on October 22, 2018, 07:53:32 PM
YH 110v standard model
13-18 months
$300 shipped
6.6 hrs filling guns only
no problems
yes would recommend someone to fill guns only.
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: mcoulter on October 22, 2018, 08:15:11 PM
Thanks guys!  Added  :-)
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58) on October 22, 2018, 11:30:00 PM
1.  YH Simple Model, 220V, owned 1 year, used to fill air guns to 3000 psi, largest tank on an air gun is 13ci tank for the Gauntlet.  I have also topped off my 90ci air tank about 3 times.  Was $190 shipped, fully refunded by Walmart because it was not as advertised.  Needs to be rebuilt, parts on order:  gaskets, high side piston and rings and high side cylinder head.

2.  YH Set Pressure Model, 220V, owned about 1 month, used to fill air guns with tanks to 13ci.  Have also usd it to top off my 90ci tank once thus far.  Paid $196 shipped, seller refund $30 because it was missing the power cord, water pump and hoses.
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: plinker81366 on October 22, 2018, 11:56:21 PM
yong heng basic version 10months now, filled direct to rifle 360 cc, for about 20-30 times, now filling 3ltr scba tank to 4000-4200 psi maybe 30-40 times already
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: juntzo on October 23, 2018, 12:59:02 AM
Zhongyan Digital Control Set Pressure Auto-shutoff 220v
$330 shipped
5 months
2 hours total filling 1.1liter CF tank
no problems
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: triggertreat on October 23, 2018, 01:17:45 AM

Air Venturi (Ordered through JSAR)
Received new 10/27/17
AV molecular sieve option added from PA
6.0hrs runtime total to date
I Top off a 44cf and a 88cf tank with it
No issues to date
True 4500psi compressor
Definitely would recommend

Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: mcoulter on October 23, 2018, 09:46:03 PM
Thanks for the feedback everyone.  Here is my list of compressors and models.  Some of the compressors didn't have specific models given.  Let me know if there are any obvious omissions! 

I am also thinking about simplifying how people report use on the compressors.  I will probably just ask for the number of hours of run-time.

Again, any comments or suggestions are welcome  :-)


Air Venturi   Nomad II 
Air Venturi   Nomad
Air Venturi   
AireTex   AireTex 45
AirForce   E-Pump
Carette     
Coltri   MCH-6
Crosman   Benjamin Traveler
Davv (same as Davy?)   SCU60
Daystate   DAY-Comp230
Daystate   LC110
Hatsan   Lightning
Omega   Alpha 90 (original)
Omega   Air Charger (grey)
Omega   Super Charger (red)
Shoebox   F10
Shoebox   early model ($400)
Shoebox    F8
Shoebox    Max
Tuxing   TXES011
Tuxing   220v Auto-shutoff
Vevor   
Yong Heng   110v standard
Yong Heng   110v Non-auto shutoff
Yong Heng   220v Set Pressure Model
Zhong Yan   

http://bit.ly/ag-compressors (http://bit.ly/ag-compressors)
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: lennyk on October 24, 2018, 07:17:57 AM
Yong Heng 110v set pressure, ebay $350
10months
6 hours run time
45min scba top up to 4200, using ice water and kept below 45C

no issues except blew burst disc once at 4000psi
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: tracker1955 on October 24, 2018, 05:19:40 PM
110v Yong Heng hard cover model purchased for $225 off ebay, one minor air leak under a compression washer fixed with slight tighten of fitting. Filling 45 min scba tank, aprox 3 hours use now.
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: msurf on October 24, 2018, 09:36:09 PM
Zhong Yan  simple model
Amazon- $300 shipped
Fill tanks - 88cf SCBA tank and 68ci paintball tank
Filled Urban and Gauntlet directly once or twice
~ 2 hours run time....no problems
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: Back_Roads on October 25, 2018, 09:09:30 AM
 Shoebox f10, paid 999.99, now 499. joe B filter and hoses, added california air 5 gal compressor $150. 1 year ago, owned over 2 years, fill 2 88 cf AL tanks and a AV 90 CI, on a monthly basis, powers 10 PCPs . zero problems, over 100 hours on it by now.
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58) on October 25, 2018, 02:24:37 PM
Zhong Yan  simple model
Amazon- $300 shipped
Fill tanks - 88cf SCBA tank and 68ci paintball tank
Filled Urban and Gauntlet directly once or twice
~ 2 hours run time....no problems

Zhong Yan?  Never heard of that one!  Is he Yong Heng's cousin?
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: squirrel_hunter on October 25, 2018, 04:58:25 PM
 yong heng 110v auto shut-off.13 months of use filling rifles
 yong heng 110v set pressure 8 months of filling rifles
   never any problems at all,the problem I had was running out of pellets.fills rifles in 30-35 seconds.temp never above 36c they are cheap but effective in doing what they were meant to do.
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: marty2 on October 25, 2018, 08:27:19 PM
Shoebox F8 purchased used with approximately 100 hours of use. Paid $900 and the price included a Joe B filter. Have owned it between 3-4 years. Did a rebuild after I put on another 100 hours. Unfortunately due to an error on my part at the rebuild it cost me a couple of hundred dollars to get it running right again. Have put on another 25+ hours with no issues. It is used to fill the SCBA medium tanks I have. I've run it almost non stop over 8 hours at a time when filling several tanks in one session.
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: msurf on October 25, 2018, 08:39:58 PM

Zhong Yan?  Never heard of that one!  Is he Yong Heng's cousin?


LOL!  At first I was calling it the Chinese Mystery Compressor.   Has absolutely no markings.  I did find some pictures from the Zhong Yan company that look identical.  The head is the main mystery part...
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: juntzo on October 25, 2018, 10:59:02 PM
Zhong Yan  simple model
Amazon- $300 shipped
Fill tanks - 88cf SCBA tank and 68ci paintball tank
Filled Urban and Gauntlet directly once or twice
~ 2 hours run time....no problems

Zhong Yan?  Never heard of that one!  Is he Yong Heng's cousin?

Just google it. ZhongYan - China PCP Compressor Manufacturer. They make the Yong Heng compressors.
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: USAFANG6799 on October 27, 2018, 01:26:33 PM
Yong Heng 110v Basic, ebay $225
6months
3.5 hours run time
80 SCUBA Tank Top off from 2k to 3300
Fill PCPs to 2k & 3k
No Problems
Use Royal Purple
Would recommend
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: Nvreloader on October 27, 2018, 05:08:03 PM
Matt
HTH's,
Here is my info,

Brand/model: ShoeBox F-10
Duration Owned: 13 - 18 Months,
Purchase Price (US dollars): $225 shipped, Used, about 10 hrs on it per previous owner,
Primary Use: Top-off CF 4500 tanks/ 3 of them to 3000/3200 psi (fits what I need),
Estimated Number of Top-offs So Far: 36+, 2-4 refills per month, round Robin on tanks, when 2000 psi is reached,
never filled any of the 13/3000 ci  rifle bottles yet, takes 2-4 hrs to per refill on the 45 CF tanks,
Would You Recommend?: Yes, a very reliable and dependable compressor, have never rebuilt it, so far,
Experienced Any Problems?: NO

Tia,
Don,
ps,
I just love your photo, she has the look of, "HELP ME"........  ;)
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: mcoulter on October 27, 2018, 05:23:42 PM
Thanks everyone.  I hope to get the survey launched in the next few days.  And for those who have entered their details here, I will do the data entry for you.  (Assuming you have answered all the questions!)
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: essbend on October 27, 2018, 11:14:36 PM
ZhongYan manufactures 4 different 4500 PSI Yong Heng types, each in 110 and 220V:

1. Simple - doesn't have first-stage drain
2. Hardcover - has a first-stage drain
3. Auto Stop - automatically stops before exceeding pressure limit
4. Set pressure - you can set the pressure at which it automatically stops

http://zypcppump.com/product/yong-heng-4500psi-pcp-compressor-for-airsoft-paintball-tank/ (http://zypcppump.com/product/yong-heng-4500psi-pcp-compressor-for-airsoft-paintball-tank/)
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: essbend on October 27, 2018, 11:26:13 PM
Compressor Brand and Model Number
Yong Heng YH-QB01 110V Hardcover

Duration Owned
0 - 6 Months

Purchase Price (US dollars)
$205 shipped

Purchased From
eBay

Primary Use
--- Top-off large carbon tank (i.e. Great White ~ 97 CF) to 300 BAR / 4350 PSI

Estimated Number of Top-offs So Far
1

Would You Recommend?
Yes

Experienced Any Problems?
No

Nature of Problem?   
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: AlanMcD on October 28, 2018, 09:03:18 PM
Compressor Brand and Model Number:
Shoebox Max (modified after purchase for auto shutoff without mechanical system for quiet running)

Duration Owned:
4.5 years

Purchase Price (US dollars):
~$800 shipped with options and spare parts

Purchased From:
Shoebox website

Primary Use:
--- Top-off tanks  from ~3000 - 4500 psi

Estimated Number of Top-offs So Far:
  66 cf tank: ~50 top offs and 1 full fill
  18 cf tank: ~100 top offs and 2 full fills (these top offs probably average ~3300-4500 psi, just cause it is so easy to do)
 

Would You Recommend?
Yes - especially now that it is even better and ~40% cheaper.  Total run time on mine of about 160 hours, compressing ~1060 CF of air, with flawless performance.  This unit will last a long, long time with proper care.

Experienced Any Problems?
No.  I did upgrade to the auto-oiler and that has worked great too.

Nature of Problem?
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: Hunt4dinner on October 28, 2018, 09:22:16 PM
YongHeng 110v with a few hrs fill time as of now. I fill both guns to 4500 psi and 90ci tank and 88cf tank to 4200psi. No issues except temp gauge went bad. Seller sent me a new one. Paid 230$ shipped. Yes I would recommend and would buy another.
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: mcoulter on October 28, 2018, 09:39:06 PM
Hi folks,

I have created the survey.  You can submit your HPA compressor experiences here:

http://bit.ly/hpa-compressor-survey (http://bit.ly/hpa-compressor-survey)

Thanks to everyone who has helped me identify the compressors that should be included.  If you have a compressor that is not listed in the above survey please email and I will add it!  mcoulter@syr.edu

To everyone who has posted your experiences here I will ask that you also submit the survey.  Doing so will help me tremendously in managing the data. 

Thanks!

 - Matt

p.s. I am going to ask the admins an see if this thread can be locked just to make sure the survey is where people enter their information  :-)
Title: Re: Help needed! Survey to collect usage data on compressors
Post by: vigilandy on October 29, 2018, 01:29:21 PM
Thread locked per OP request.  Please see the survey link.