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Title: .22 H&N Crow Magnums for short range low power pesting.
Post by: xtred1 on October 20, 2018, 03:25:02 AM
I have been using Crow Magnums for about a month. I needed something that packed a punch that would get stopped pretty quick. ( I was not sure how they would do at stopping) I am shooting them from a Dragonfly multi pump. (3 pumps) Shooting 7-10 yards at around 450fps. These pellets make one hole groups at that range and speed. Though they dont open up at that speed they still hit the rats I am pesting very hard. smaller rats I will get a full pass through on a shoulder to lung shot. On a six inch rat or larger they dont pass through with that shot, they just tare the skin on the leeward side of the rat. On headshots they do pass through. I have seen this pellet spin a rat a bit on impact. They do get slowed down pretty quick. The pellets are well made and clean looking to be quality. I am very happy with this pellet for these needs.

I wanted to do this review focusing on the qualities needed to shoot and pest in a small confined spaces.

I wanted to add I was able to recover a Crow Mag from last nights ratting.  I had gotten some full length cloth drapes from a 2nd store. I hung these in front of the 6ft fence that acts as my backstop for my bait station. The drapes catch the pellets in a very quiet and soft way. I found a very small spot of rat guts stuck to the drapes so I new the pellet was close by. I was able to find the pellet, to my surprise it did open up some even at these slow speeds.
Title: Re: .22 H&N Crow Magnums for short range low power pesting.
Post by: VaporTrail on October 23, 2018, 03:57:13 AM
Looks like I might need to look into those. Been ratting a little more nowadays...RWS Super Points have been the pellet of choice since they don't pass through. In fact, went ratting just last night; he was pretty skittish and didn't stay more than a second at the bait pile.

His mistake was staying still for a split second. Sent a RWS into his chest/belly...he screeched and jumped. Wasn't able to find the body; he probably crawled somewhere to die. The smell will let us know in a couple of days.
Title: Re: .22 H&N Crow Magnums for short range low power pesting.
Post by: Yogi on October 23, 2018, 07:58:13 AM
Looks like I might need to look into those. Been ratting a little more nowadays...RWS Super Points have been the pellet of choice since they don't pass through. In fact, went ratting just last night; he was pretty skittish and didn't stay more than a second at the bait pile.

His mistake was staying still for a split second. Sent a RWS into his chest/belly...he screeched and jumped. Wasn't able to find the body; he probably crawled somewhere to die. The smell will let us know in a couple of days.

Hey Paul,

Does Guam still have a snake problem?  Can you hunt them?  Any success?

-Y
Title: Re: .22 H&N Crow Magnums for short range low power pesting.
Post by: VaporTrail on October 23, 2018, 10:42:27 PM
Looks like I might need to look into those. Been ratting a little more nowadays...RWS Super Points have been the pellet of choice since they don't pass through. In fact, went ratting just last night; he was pretty skittish and didn't stay more than a second at the bait pile.

His mistake was staying still for a split second. Sent a RWS into his chest/belly...he screeched and jumped. Wasn't able to find the body; he probably crawled somewhere to die. The smell will let us know in a couple of days.

Hey Paul,

Does Guam still have a snake problem?  Can you hunt them?  Any success?

-Y

Snake problem? Yes, I think we do. It isn't as bad as the Discovery Channel special made it out to be, though. They made it sound like we're up to our armpits in snakes and that you can't go 10 feet with out seeing one.  ??? There is a snake problem, but it isn't that bad; sure there's more than should be, but for the most part people here are pretty good about killing them. I know I do. If I'm driving and I see one, I usually pull to the side (if I can't run it over) and dispatch them.

And you sure can hunt them. No restrictions or licenses needed. I've shot some in the past with an air rifle, but I've found it more effective and quicker to get 'em right there.

I'll dispatch em with a knife, an air gun, 22LR (I shot one at the ranch several months back; it was a big one) or just my bare hands. My new favorite method is to grab them by the tail, whip em flat on the ground to stun them and then grab the head and rip it off. Kinda like a macabre Hulk Hogan ripping open his tank top. Only I'm doing it with a snake.

I know it'll probably ruffle a few feathers, but I don't have any mercy on them. Big ones, small ones, doesn't matter; I kill them all when I have a chance. They are an invasive species, have no natural predators, have almost ZERO positive impact on the ecological system here and are definitely considered PESTS. My island has lost a bunch of indigenous bird species because of them; some of them were only found Guam and Rota. They're gone now, thanks to them. We almost lost our ko'ko (Guam's national bird) to them as well; there are no longer any in the wild here (there's a sanctuary for them in Rota or Tinian). The last remaining survivors and promulgators of the species number less than a 100, and they are all in captivity.

They may have a place in some eco system somewhere...but it is definitely not here.

Sorry OP to kinda derail. However...Crow Magnums on brown tree snakes? Line them up and I'll take the shot with any ammo and any air rifle.
Title: Re: .22 H&N Crow Magnums for short range low power pesting.
Post by: Yogi on October 26, 2018, 07:38:11 PM
I am with you, invasive species, kill them all! 8)

Hope you are OK with Typoon YUTU, sounds like U-tube. :D

-Y
Title: Re: .22 H&N Crow Magnums for short range low power pesting.
Post by: americanpatriot10 on October 26, 2018, 10:43:25 PM
Looks like I might need to look into those. Been ratting a little more nowadays...RWS Super Points have been the pellet of choice since they don't pass through. In fact, went ratting just last night; he was pretty skittish and didn't stay more than a second at the bait pile.

His mistake was staying still for a split second. Sent a RWS into his chest/belly...he screeched and jumped. Wasn't able to find the body; he probably crawled somewhere to die. The smell will let us know in a couple of days.

Ya these might do the trick. Thats funny I just did a review on the RWS Super HP's
Title: Re: .22 H&N Crow Magnums for short range low power pesting.
Post by: VaporTrail on October 28, 2018, 09:23:47 PM
I am with you, invasive species, kill them all! 8)

Hope you are OK with Typoon YUTU, sounds like U-tube. :D

-Y

Thanks Yogi. An example of the damage they have caused is the population of our Guam Kingfisher; they are endemic to Guam, and now there are only 143 left; all in captivity. Well, except for one that was able to cut fence due to a typhoon mix up. Hopefully they'll get him back to safety soon.

As for the typhoon, we were spared the brunt of this storm. We experienced about 70mph winds; Saipan and Tinian got the worst of it. Initial reports state they were hammered by 178mph winds with gusts into the 200s.  :o

If you have some spare time, maybe you could send some prayers/positive thoughts/good vibes their way. It's gonna take a little while to get things back to normal there, and I know how hard that can be with no water and no power. Typhoon Mangkhut hit us earlier, but thankfully only the power was knocked out and building damage was minimal.

I thought I'd find more snakes crawling around, but no dice.  ??? Guess they heard there was a lunatic on the loose and decided to sit tight.
Title: Re: .22 H&N Crow Magnums for short range low power pesting.
Post by: VaporTrail on October 28, 2018, 09:30:59 PM
Looks like I might need to look into those. Been ratting a little more nowadays...RWS Super Points have been the pellet of choice since they don't pass through. In fact, went ratting just last night; he was pretty skittish and didn't stay more than a second at the bait pile.

His mistake was staying still for a split second. Sent a RWS into his chest/belly...he screeched and jumped. Wasn't able to find the body; he probably crawled somewhere to die. The smell will let us know in a couple of days.

Ya these might do the trick. Thats funny I just did a review on the RWS Super HP's

For small pest control, I think I'd like to use soft HPs. Shouldn't be any pass throughs and damage will be substantial. I've been shooting more of my precious NSA slugs to get more familiar with their trajectory and POI, but I'm thinking I'll pick up a tin of these to save the NSAs. The 28gr HPs fly slow and are down on energy, but I suspect my Chrono is also starting to act up. I'll start another thread in the Gamo gate for that, though.

How about Skencos? Are those soft lead? Or is that overkill for a rat?