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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Bargain Gate => Topic started by: GreyBeard1851 on September 23, 2018, 02:49:39 PM

Title: If it looks too good to be true, It usually is.
Post by: GreyBeard1851 on September 23, 2018, 02:49:39 PM
At first glance, I thought I had found a deal but I think this seller is selling a $29.00 scope for $63.00.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-16x50AO-Rifle-Scope-Illuminated-Mil-Dot-IR-Optics-Reticle-1-4-MOA-25-4mm-Tube/282864791125?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3Dba1073d54fb4433ba1559fb6bc2f243a%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D352270190393%26itm%3D282864791125&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-16x50AO-Rifle-Scope-Illuminated-Mil-Dot-IR-Optics-Reticle-1-4-MOA-25-4mm-Tube/282864791125?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3Dba1073d54fb4433ba1559fb6bc2f243a%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D352270190393%26itm%3D282864791125&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1)
Title: Re: If it looks too good to be true, It usually is.
Post by: gendoc on September 23, 2018, 02:57:12 PM
yep, $29...good eye !!! ;)
Title: Re: If it looks too good to be true, It usually is.
Post by: 3 at 8 on September 23, 2018, 03:07:06 PM
I asked him if it came with the box.  ;)
Title: Re: If it looks too good to be true, It usually is.
Post by: Roadworthy on September 23, 2018, 03:11:48 PM
The pictured box appears to be Hawke but no model number is stated.  No scope matching this description appears on the Hawke website.  It is shipped from China.
Title: Re: If it looks too good to be true, It usually is.
Post by: Bicycleman on September 23, 2018, 05:27:15 PM



Shipping:
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Item location:
China, China




 



Ships to:
Worldwide See exclusions (https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-16x50AO-Rifle-Scope-Illuminated-Mil-Dot-IR-Optics-Reticle-1-4-MOA-25-4mm-Tube/282864791125?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3Dba1073d54fb4433ba1559fb6bc2f243a%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D352270190393%26itm%3D282864791125&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1#shpCntId)
Title: Re: If it looks too good to be true, It usually is.
Post by: nced on September 23, 2018, 06:17:42 PM
Quote from: Roadworthy on September 23, 2018, 03:11:48 PM
The pictured box appears to be Hawke but no model number is stated.  No scope matching this description appears on the Hawke website.  It is shipped from China.

I found a scope that appears to be the one in the OP...........
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hawke-HK3072-4-16x50-Rimfire-Mounts/dp/B00BGBUCOG (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hawke-HK3072-4-16x50-Rimfire-Mounts/dp/B00BGBUCOG)
The cost in British Pounds converted to US Dollars is $91.72 but I have no clue about the shipping costs.

Hawke does offer a scope with similar specs (4-16x50) but it's the Vantage model and looks different and costs $209.99 with free shipping from Optics Planet................
https://www.opticsplanet.com/hawke-sport-optics-vantage-4-16x50-ao-mil-dot-ir-riflescope.html (https://www.opticsplanet.com/hawke-sport-optics-vantage-4-16x50-ao-mil-dot-ir-riflescope.html)
(https://i.imgur.com/3KXb8Odl.png)

LOL.......the scope in the ad "offered fer cheap" shipped directly from China is very puzzling!

Anywhoo, all the Hawke scopes I've bought in the USA have had packaging like these...........
(https://i.imgur.com/Dt1XTQml.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/9a5DbLyl.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/KvRMrTOl.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/LRWT9KDl.jpg)
Title: Re: If it looks too good to be true, It usually is.
Post by: GreyBeard1851 on September 25, 2018, 02:55:06 PM
I ask the seller about the box.  This was his reply:
"Hello there,
The box of this product is exactly the same as the one shown in the picture.
Thank you"

I have heard that Hawke scopes are made in China.  Makes me wonder if someone is eliminating the middle man.
Title: Re: If it looks too good to be true, It usually is.
Post by: archellas on September 25, 2018, 03:57:43 PM
The Chinese are very good at copying and selling cheap. Quality however, not always so good!
In this case they are even using a legit trade name, with a different logo!I have owned several scopes that are made in China, and some are actually VERY good quality with etched reticles, and very clear glass, but usually they are not cheap, even by Chinese standards. And yes, HAWKE also manufactures in China (some of their scopes).You really have to be selective when buying off brand products.And YES, if it looks too good to be true, it usually IS!
Cheers


Title: Re: If it looks too good to be true, It usually is.
Post by: 3 at 8 on September 25, 2018, 06:01:21 PM
Did anyone get one? I looked closer at it. It's not just the Hawke box. The scope is stamped Hawke in several places as well FWIW. Counterfeit? Good deal?
Title: Re: If it looks too good to be true, It usually is.
Post by: GreyBeard1851 on September 26, 2018, 01:03:19 AM
Quote from: 3 at 8 on September 25, 2018, 06:01:21 PM
Did anyone get one? I looked closer at it. It's not just the Hawke box. The scope is stamped Hawke in several places as well FWIW. Counterfeit? Good deal?

https://pages.ebay.com/ebay-money-back-guarantee/
Title: Re: If it looks too good to be true, It usually is.
Post by: broachoski on September 26, 2018, 03:14:22 AM
About a year ago I bought a 4-16x50 China Hawke and it is different looking from those advertised above. Here a a couple of pic. It come in scratched badly from the included rings that were in the same box. They let me know that it was a CHINA HAWKE and was not related to the ENGLISH brand. It is mediocre at best.
I do buy ZOS scopes that are Chinese and they are fantastic. You pays yore money and you takes a chance.