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Title: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: sk73 on September 18, 2018, 11:11:16 PM
Today I shot my Crosman 140 fourth variant.  Spent a good and pleasant part of my afternoon shooting pellets generally where I aimed.  Why had it been so long since I shot this fine, fine gun?
 Answer: I have too many guns.  And I got a Talon SS two weeks ago and I'm learning to shoot it.  And I'm trying to rescue a Crosman 140 third variant and a crosman 113. 

I love shooting and I love guns. I used to have too many powder burners and probably still do.  But my point is that the more guns I buy the more idle guns I have.  So I think I need to thin my flock out to the ones I shoot now.   Focus more on being a shooter than a gun collector.  Make sense?
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: xtred1 on September 18, 2018, 11:37:42 PM
I think it was Harry Callahan once said “ A mans got to know his limitations”  ;D.  For me it is the shooting, if I have use for something I will keep it. If not I wont, unless it was like a family heirloom.  I have a trail NP2 that just sits on the wall, it might be time for that to go soon.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: DanD on September 18, 2018, 11:38:48 PM
..l  So I think I need to thin my flock out to the ones I shoot now.   Focus more on being a shooter than a gun collector.  Make sense?
Sounds like crazy talk to me.
But then again, you could use the proceeds to buy more guns.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: Back_Roads on September 18, 2018, 11:46:52 PM
 I have a garage full of tools, I don't use them every day, but when the need occurs I am thankful that they are there. Same goes for the armory here  ;)
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: Roadworthy on September 18, 2018, 11:56:34 PM
Is it even possible to have too many guns - powder or air?  I think not.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: bantam5s on September 19, 2018, 01:40:11 AM

If you feel you can use them all enough and find yourself gravitating towards a certian few most often, maybe you should thin the heard.



Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: Matchstickshooter on September 19, 2018, 08:49:46 AM
Just take turns with them! Start at the bottom of your list and shoot them in rotation. ;D
 
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: sk73 on September 19, 2018, 09:24:03 AM
Just take turns with them! Start at the bottom of your list and shoot them in rotation. ;D
 
. That was my original intent for when I retired. But I have less time than I thought. So I'm thinking about narrowing down about 15 to 5.  Kind of keep the ones I feel a special attachment for.  Odd, I enjoyed shooting all of them at one time but my tastes have changed with Rome
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: sk73 on September 19, 2018, 09:25:55 AM
Just take turns with them! Start at the bottom of your list and shoot them in rotation. ;D
 
. That was my original intent for when I retired. But I have less time than I thought. So I'm thinking about narrowing down about 15 to 5.  Kind of keep the ones I feel a special attachment for.  Odd, I enjoyed shooting all of them at one time but my tastes have changed with Rome
TIME not Rome.  anyone else have autocorrect that changes words on you?
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: Dairyboy on September 19, 2018, 10:55:02 AM
I know exactly what you mean. Went through a stretch where I hadnt shot in almost 6 months. That's 8 airguns that went unused. It's coming up again where I probably won't have time to shoot also so I plan on selling off all but one or 2.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: gamo2hammerli on September 19, 2018, 11:11:58 AM
Sometimes I wouldn't have shot a certain gun/airgun for over a year or more....then I use it and easily can put 700+ shots through it in a couple of days.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: mpbby on September 19, 2018, 11:34:33 AM
If being rational could fit, I would think about the different 'needs' - accuracy/power/distances - and preserve that rifles that better match each one. 

Judging by me.., you may even preserve twin rifles, each one ready and 'adjusted' (scope, pellets, ..) for a kind of 'need'.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: SteveP-52 on September 19, 2018, 11:44:39 AM
Both. Some are for pesting, some for just targets, some for both. A few that one is a springer, one is a gas ram (I have a pair of Webley VMX .20's that I converted to a gas ram) because I wanted to compare the differences.

They all get shot as regularly as time permits, but I use them all :)
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: rangur1 on September 19, 2018, 12:08:48 PM
that is a tough choice, on the one hand you look at a gun and say "man i haven't shot that one in ages, not sure i want it here still" then you shoot it and realize "boy , i forgot how much fun this one was" i find most of my guns will fall in and out of favor with me depending on mood. but our favorites always remain. i choose guns based on specific purpose because i can only really keep no more than 5 and have the time to shoot them and care for them properly. so if i want a new gun i have to cycle out a current one.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: Matchstickshooter on September 19, 2018, 12:24:31 PM
and think about this....we all have some we kick ourselves for having gotten rid of! :o
I think there is a long post about that on here somewhere..
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: Korak-again on September 20, 2018, 08:52:19 AM
   I have reached the point that if I don't use it anymore or don't have a actual use for it, I send it down the road. At one time I had 52 firearms. Now I have 6. 
   I'm not sure how many airguns I have owned. Best guess is 30+.  I now have 10. Of these I use four on a regular basis.
   One of the reasons for owning 30+ airguns is that there are no dealers that I'm aware of within a hundred miles of me. So for me to get one it is mostly from PA. To paraphrase Pelosi. You have to buy it to see if you like it. Unfortunately, too many times I haven't been happy with the gun.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: 45flint on September 20, 2018, 09:00:32 AM
Totally on the other side of the spectrum, love vintage airguns and look at them as mechanical works of art.  Yes they have to shoot but many of the prewar and early postwar guns were made at a time when machining was an art.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: sk73 on September 20, 2018, 09:53:19 PM
Totally on the other side of the spectrum, love vintage airguns and look at them as mechanical works of art.  Yes they have to shoot but many of the prewar and early postwar guns were made at a time when machining was an art.

Me too. That kind of quality today would probably price them out though.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: sk73 on September 20, 2018, 11:18:09 PM
Ignore everything I wrote above.  Mrodair is selling the cp-1m for $79 including shipping.  Supposed to be here in about a week.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: Stinger177 on September 21, 2018, 12:20:34 AM
Ignore everything I wrote above.  Mrodair is selling the cp-1m for $79 including shipping.  Supposed to be here in about a week.

So there ya go then. Exactly my way of thinking. But then again, I know I seriously need therapy for my gun buying problem.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: mobilemail on September 21, 2018, 10:35:17 AM
Collections can be reduced, but at great peril. 

When an airgun is removed from the cabinet, it creates an negative vortex that spills out mind-bending waves.  I will avoid all the quantum metaphysical sciency stuff, but this vortex causes other airguns to be sucked into the now empty space, creating mental emotions of guilt, depression and general malaise until the gap is plugged.  The negative vortex is very strong, and typically takes mulitple airguns to fill it.  Some folks have been successful filling the gap early using an airgun lined with money - Whiscombes are the most successful.

It might be less costly financially and emotionally to keep the ones you have than to deal with the negative vortex. 
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: uglymike on September 21, 2018, 10:45:47 AM
For me it's both. I have an oak gun cabinet my farther-in-law made for me. 7 slots for rifles, and that's my limit. HOWEVER, I do have the Cabelas $149 34p still in the box stored in my attic, that's $$ in the bank IMO.  ;)   
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: sk73 on September 21, 2018, 11:04:37 AM
Collections can be reduced, but at great peril. 

When an airgun is removed from the cabinet, it creates an negative vortex that spills out mind-bending waves.  I will avoid all the quantum metaphysical sciency stuff, but this vortex causes other airguns to be sucked into the now empty space, creating mental emotions of guilt, depression and general malaise until the gap is plugged.  The negative vortex is very strong, and typically takes mulitple airguns to fill it.  Some folks have been successful filling the gap early using an airgun lined with money - Whiscombes are the most successful.

It might be less costly financially and emotionally to keep the ones you have than to deal with the negative vortex.

Good Gosh, that's deep!!!  Simply reading that post not only helps me understand how the system was divinely designed but makes me proud to be part of it.  No more pangs of conscience, no useless buyers remorse.  This is sticky stuff!!!
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: lefteyeshot on September 21, 2018, 11:32:53 AM
For what you can get for them, packing them, going to the PO or UPS, I'll just keep them. I'm a bit of a collector anyway. More gun racks is the answer.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: Stinger177 on September 21, 2018, 01:32:05 PM
Just as an exercise, last night I went down my list in my signature and found justification for every one of them for keeping them. The great ones ya gotta keep, extras would go to my son, the oddballs because, well, they're odd (and no one would buy them anyway).

My guilt however, still pokes its head up now and then. What to do?

Wait, what's that? There's another Baikal on eBay?
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on September 21, 2018, 05:49:37 PM
I am to the point where I try to convince myself in order to buy another, I need to sell one.
 I have my eye on my next gun already but just can't part with any I have. I even posted one up on the GTA classifieds before bed the other night... but when I woke up the next morning, I promptly had the posting removed!

 ::)
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: DanD on September 21, 2018, 07:18:24 PM
Just as an exercise, last night I went down my list in my signature and found justification for every one of them for keeping them. The great ones ya gotta keep, extras would go to my son, the oddballs because, well, they're odd (and no one would buy them anyway).
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Dennis,
You inspired me to list my collection, both current and past. 
I discovered that I currently own at least 65 airguns, 20 of which are fairly desirable that I want to keep, about 20 that I'd love to sell, but they're too cheap to make shipping worthwhile, and the rest are in between where I think they're cool to own, but I don't shoot them much and wouldn't feel too bad to let them go,
I don't have the list on me right now,  but I think I sold, traded, or gifted about 40 over the years, some of which were more valuable than anything I own now.
The good news is that my want list is pretty short right now, except for the purchases of whim and opportunity that keep the collection growing. I do love the experience of getting to know a new gun.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: Stinger177 on September 21, 2018, 07:47:37 PM
Just as an exercise, last night I went down my list in my signature and found justification for every one of them for keeping them. The great ones ya gotta keep, extras would go to my son, the oddballs because, well, they're odd (and no one would buy them anyway).
...
Dennis,
You inspired me to list my collection, both current and past. 
I discovered that I currently own at least 65 airguns, 20 of which are fairly desirable that I want to keep, about 20 that I'd love to sell, but they're too cheap to make shipping worthwhile, and the rest are in between where I think they're cool to own, but I don't shoot them much and wouldn't feel too bad to let them go,
I don't have the list on me right now,  but I think I sold, traded, or gifted about 40 over the years, some of which were more valuable than anything I own now.
The good news is that my want list is pretty short right now, except for the purchases of whim and opportunity that keep the collection growing. I do love the experience of getting to know a new gun.

Would love to see that list. If you have it on file PM it to me.

Of all my guns, the only ones I paid full retail price for are the Tempest (my first pellet gun that I bought around '89 or so), the 46M bought about 13 yrs. ago, and the two polymer MP-60's. Everything else I got screaming deals on, so I really can't say I have THAT much invested in them all. What right now is really taking the gun count up is my current passion for buying what others call junk and making them shine (and shoot) better than new. And those, when finished, can't bring the value of what I've put into them, so to sell them is money lost.

You mentioning guns from the way past, I just remembered that my old Red Ryder is hanging up in the garage. Need to get that back in shooting shape, like I don't have enough projects going. And there can beget yet another GTA topic - "How many projects are you currently working on?".
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on September 21, 2018, 09:11:06 PM
Ask Dez for a count...
The guy has a semi trailer for storage :o
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: Lone Star on September 22, 2018, 08:44:51 AM
Other than guns, I occupy much of my time playing my guitars, I have 9. Why 9, well just like guns those of us who play guitars get a bug we call GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome). My guess is it happens with any activity one has a passion for, be it guns, cars, motorcycles... At only 3 air guns and 6 powder burners to my name, I am desperately trying to make that a limit. I know, go ahead and laugh at me.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: Back_Roads on September 23, 2018, 12:04:18 AM
 I know a guy that builds some nice guitars  ;) LOL

 Bummer I don't play them well  ::)
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: 45flint on September 23, 2018, 12:13:35 AM
Other than guns, I occupy much of my time playing my guitars, I have 9. Why 9, well just like guns those of us who play guitars get a bug we call GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome). My guess is it happens with any activity one has a passion for, be it guns, cars, motorcycles... At only 3 air guns and 6 powder burners to my name, I am desperately trying to make that a limit. I know, go ahead and laugh at me.

12 guitars and 12 airguns here
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: AirGunner1377 on September 23, 2018, 01:28:33 AM
It's interesting... I actually knew a dude who actually went out and bought guns, only to shoot them maybe once or twice. They stayed in the safe for years at a time. And also granted, I have a couple guns (firearms and airguns) that I've had for a while that I haven't shot in a while, and have only been able to take out a few times.

The biggest issue for me is cost. I don't have access to "free" land in order to shoot whenever I want. I have to go to a range, pay $20+ and in many cases, only have an hour in a lane. So naturally, I take my firearms, as I would see this as a huge waste of time for an airgun.

If I had the means, I could easily spend at least one day a week, shooting the entire day. I could make the time, it's just the hassle and cost of going to a range.
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: dcmeyer on September 23, 2018, 06:31:58 PM
As a Auto Tech for almost 4 decades I am heavily in to tools and that's what guns are to me. The main and longstanding reason for this tool (a gun) is self preservation, defense of family.

However, shooting is just plain fun, and fun is a necessity! That is my exception because some in the collection are not just tools.

Having stuff around I don't use is mine and my wife's curse. We have been working this down to things we actually use over the past years.

The list has been narrowed from 30+ to:

Compact 9mm CCW
38 Spl off duty CCW
Full Size 9mm for Pistol Matches
AR15 because I wanted to build one
Custom 22 pistol & rifle for Rimfire Matches
Pump Shotgun for Home Defense
Autoloader Shotgun for Trap
.22 WMR Bolt Rifle for varmints
.45ACP 1911 because it's the best pistol ever made and I wanted one!

Airguns:

Sold off my vintage Benjamins, 232 pump pistol, Hot Shot CO2 rifle to fund a PCP for Varmints.

.25 PCP for Varmints
.177 POS cheap springer I'm trying to make shootable, purchased for varmints but soon became inadequate.
Sig CO2 BB Pistol for no reason

I am now looking to add a Big Bore PCP airgun and possibly a 22-250, .223 or .308 Bolt Rifle as my interest in hunting grows. I would also like to purchase an underlever springer at some point in the future to get rid of the bad taste of spring guns.

Gees, it's starting all over again!

I guess I got caught up and never answered the question, lol. It's the shooting all the way!

 
Title: Re: The shooting or the guns?
Post by: SteveP-52 on September 24, 2018, 12:00:34 AM
I would also like to purchase an underlever springer at some point in the future to get rid of the bad taste of spring guns.

Whether underlever or a break barrel, spend the money and get yourself a Weihrauch (pick any one you want, I have an HW95 .22 myself) or Beeman R9 (I have one in .20 caliber)...either will most definitely help make you like springers again :)