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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: SvilenP on September 05, 2018, 11:29:25 AM
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Hello brothers in arms,
For over half a year now, I have been interested in PCP rifles as I currently have the Hatsan 125 TX Vortex .22.
At first I was only interested in "carabin" rifles for target shooting and plinking but after a lot of shooting with my low quality Turkish gas piston rifle which weighed 12.13 pounds with optics and long 4.04 feet I decided I wanted quality, mobile, light and short rifle!
I basically like "carabin" rifles because they look like real firearms and a bullpup I never liked in appearance but
I'm actually targeting them because they meet what I want. Besides, I'm comparatively low in height, thick and short-handed which means that a bullpup will fit me anatomically pure.
I chose .25 caliber to allow me to shoot for a long distance for me 50-100 yards (100 +), the pellet to be influenced by little by the wind and to keep its energy longer. Larger caliber is not for me a little shots and expensive pellets. I want to try and go hunting for rabbits, pheasants and other birds, and maybe something big but just for food! I do not like killing animals for no reason. This is forbidden in Bulgaria but
that's why I want a mobile, light, short, quality and powerful rifle.
In the beginning I was stopped at FX Streamline .25 but once I decided to be bullpup switched to FX Wildcat MK2 / Compact .25 but given how demanding to brand of pellets, the pellets speed and other factors, adding that should separate to buy "X" barrel
that irritated me a lot and I decided to change the rifle brand!
I looked at what variations I had and compared Cricket, Vulcan, SPA and other bullpups but also a very important factor is the PRICE of the rifle I do not have much money for this hobby and for example Cricket has dropped though I really liked it
So I finally reached the Taipan Veteran Standard .25. It's price is also well above my options but yet it's a bit cheaper.
I ask you for advice about my choice? (I also ask you to interpret my question not as to which one to choose, but rather whether Taipan has the quality of materials and workmanship, accuracy in shooting and power required for me)
Thanks in advance!
In AGN I ask too.
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Taipan far and away the more ROBUST .... FYI the .25's are using LW barrels where the .22's use the superior CZ barrels.
While the Taipan wins no beauty contest, it has the best trigger out there and is just an excellent designed bull pup !!
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Thanks man!
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There is no contest between a mutant/veteran and a wildcat. Taipan wins every time.
The only thing people can complain about the Taipan is the look of the stock. I, however, find beauty in functionality, and then it becomes wonderful.
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Also look in the forum for Taipan Veteran, we had a discussion recently.
I was on your shoes few weeks ago and decided to buy a Taipan over the rest. I bought it in .25 because I needed it for hunting iguanas, and those are thought like rocks, but if you want to hunt rabbits .22 is more than enough. I mention this because in .22 you will get a better shot count. My .25 is giving me between 30-40 shots regulated, but in .22 I'm pretty sure you can get way more... And this was a big deal for me when I was researching because I'm using a hand pump. The more I can shoot between pumping the better.
Good luck...
Include in your research quality and failures, that was what disappointed me about the Wildcat, a lot of people having issues with the regulator and have to spend a bit more for a Huma regulator... Do your homework and like I remember reading from Motorheah. "Buy once, cry once" get the Taipan :)
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I'll +1 on the Taipan as well
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Svilen, the guys that have posted above know what they are talking about. Because of their posts about the Taipan over the last year I bought Taipan. Wish I would have bought Taipan first. There are even better guns that cost considerably more, but for what you pay for a Taipan I don't think you could buy more enjoyment at that price. It goes in the same hole a lot more often than my other airguns do. I haven't shot a Wildcat, but it would have to be real good to give more enjoyment than what I am enjoying now. Get the .22 because of the CZ barrel.
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+2 on the Taipan Veteran.
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For shot count in .22, I get 60 shots at 31fpe - 885fps with JSB 18.1gr.
That's 5 full magazines.
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Love my .25 Veteran Shorty, always my go to gun.
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+5 As far as bull pups go, it doesn't get any better then the Taipan's. That's just the way she goes... ;)
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Thanks to all my colleagues!
I am very pleased that you support my choice!
At first, I had doubts about this brand because it seemed too exotic as its name sounded, but for my joy it turned out that I just did not know about it :)
I was very surprised by the fact that I was replacing a brand like FX (massive and very famous) with one who I thought few people have heard and used, but I'm glad I was wrong :)
I hope soon as they told me from Ballystas (Czech Republic) to sell 25 caliber (supposedly after 10 days) because if I buy the shotgun from TalonTunes I have to pay customs 415 dollars in Bulgaria :( This is because of the ()&(^)(&() EU ...
Thanks again for your colleagues, and I hope you can help me forwards as well.
Greetings.
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Have you guys seen this stock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C58AcoGdgLc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C58AcoGdgLc)
I'm wondering how much is the weight. Looks really nice, I want that! :)
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Have you guys seen this stock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C58AcoGdgLc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C58AcoGdgLc)
I'm wondering how much is the weight. Looks really nice, I want that! :)
Thats MINIMAL for sure !!
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Colleagues, what mounts would you recommend for installing the Athlon Argos BTR 6-24Χ50 FFP optics at the Taipan Veteran Standard 25?
Also, who colleague here at the forum was doing and selling a pellet magazine stand that was placed on the rifle?
Greetings.
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Bizill is the person who makes a magazine holder that mounts on the barrel (Tiapan)
he is a member on this board
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/utg-accu-sync-30mm-medium-profile-50mm-offset-picatinny-mount-aluminum-black-4717385553613.do?from=Search&cx=0 (https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/utg-accu-sync-30mm-medium-profile-50mm-offset-picatinny-mount-aluminum-black-4717385553613.do?from=Search&cx=0)
this is what I put on my Kozak with my Athlon BTR 6-24x50
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Thanks friend.
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Owned a wildcat and a Taipan and for sure Taipan its not even close in my book.
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Hello friends,
By the advice of a friend I have stopped on "Leapers UTG Twist Lock 30mm Scope Weaver / Picatinny Mounts Medium RG2W3154" or maybe: "Leapers UTG QD Lever Lock Weaver Picatinny 30mm Medium Scope Mounts RQ2W3154" as of course i am inclined to change them if someone thinks they are not good or are they offered to me better?
Thanks in advance!
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I just want to add that this thread popped up at jus the right time as I've been trying to figure out which small carbine/bullpup to get.
I've been right on the verge of getting a FX Verminator .22, but when I went to order they were out of stock. Which may have been a blessing as I keep reading about FX guns being 'delicate' and needed a lot of maintenance. That had me very weary of ordering any FX gun. The Wildcat came up on my short list along with the Leishy and a few others.
After reading this thread and a few others I pulled the trigger last night on a Taipan Veteran .22 Short with a DonnyFL Tatsu and Speed Dialer. It doesn't check every box as I would've preferred a bigger tank (400-500cc) for big shot count and a bolt lever positioned above the trigger. But looking at the fps consistency, trigger adjustability, ease of fps change, that the bolt lever can be moved to the left (I shoot lefty) and lower price point it made for an easy decision.
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Svelin, I have been using the UTG PRO rings for quite awhile and they are great. A little more expensive (about $50 online) but they are made in the USA (not sure if they are available where you are?) and rock solid. The rail clamp is spring loaded so when you loosen the clamp that holds the ring to the rail they automatically spread apart and makes it easy to mount your scope again. I guess this only matters if the scope is coming off the gun regularly.
Here is a picture when I used them on my warp but I used these exact medium rings on my Veteran and have another pair on my Leshiy.
(https://i.imgur.com/sM0qUe5.jpg)
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Thank you friend. Yes these are in Bulgaria, as here they cost 88.60 dollars ... Of course the nice mounts are expensive, which is clear in terms of workmanship and materials but in this case I think that for this price in Bulgaria maybe it is better to choose SportsMatch or another a similar brand ...
Of course, I do not have anything against UTG, but you will not agree with me that something better can be bought at this price ... but I may be wrong.
Greetings.
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Yes if they cost that much there I also would find something else. I will say that these are high quality rings made in the USA not to be confused with some of the Chinese products that they just add the UTG logo on but I see what you're saying.
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Ok agree! To us is such a reality: low wages = high prices ... besides, many things, though much more expensive than there is no where to buy here ...
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Hello colleagues,
In order not to post a few more topics, I will be able to ask here several more things:
1. Suggest me a shot rest for the rifle. I have liked this one: "Vanguard Porta Aim Gun Rest" because I can fix the rifle in the front and the part so I can easily shoot the optics. I can also shoot well over a long distance.
Of course, these rebounds that fix the rifle from the front and the back are better but they are pretty expensive think ...or?
Still open to suggestions?
2. Please offer me a bipod.
I know that Harris are good but they are not only expensive and I have no place to buy them ...
Is there a UTG model: Leapers UTG Heavy Duty Recon 360 Bipod - TL-BP02 or TL-BP01 which I think is good and not very expensive but still rely on you for advice?
2.1 Bipod Adapter
Please if you offer me a different Bipod model or do you think that the UTG 360 is good to give me advice and an adapter to put on the
rifle stock?
3. Rest / stand for servicing the rifle
There are those that put the rifle and can serve something like these: MTM Shooting Rests - Site In-Clean Rifle Rests or Tripton Gun Vise maybe others but I can not choose because I never had?
4. I liked WeatherFlow.
What do you think about this? I know that Kestrel is better but they are too expensive...
Thank you in advance!
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Not a bullpup, but I am wondering how the Taipan stacks up to the RAW HM1000x? I am looking for one that is ambidextrous.
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Same question about comparing HM1000x to the FX Wildcat. I have had the HM1000x for a very short time, before I realized I need an ambidextrous stock so it can be shared with my son. Wait time for the HM1000x is very long. Looks like the FX and Taipan can be had sooner.
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Hello colleagues,
In order not to post a few more topics, I will be able to ask here several more things:
1. Suggest me a shot rest for the rifle. I have liked this one: "Vanguard Porta Aim Gun Rest" because I can fix the rifle in the front and the part so I can easily shoot the optics. I can also shoot well over a long distance.
Of course, these rebounds that fix the rifle from the front and the back are better but they are pretty expensive think ...or?
Still open to suggestions?
2. Please offer me a bipod.
I know that Harris are good but they are not only expensive and I have no place to buy them ...
Is there a UTG model: Leapers UTG Heavy Duty Recon 360 Bipod - TL-BP02 or TL-BP01 which I think is good and not very expensive but still rely on you for advice?
2.1 Bipod Adapter
Please if you offer me a different Bipod model or do you think that the UTG 360 is good to give me advice and an adapter to put on the
rifle stock?
3. Rest / stand for servicing the rifle
There are those that put the rifle and can serve something like these: MTM Shooting Rests - Site In-Clean Rifle Rests or Tripton Gun Vise maybe others but I can not choose because I never had?
4. I liked WeatherFlow.
What do you think about this? I know that Kestrel is better but they are too expensive...
Thank you in advance!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E4YVCOA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E4YVCOA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
I bought this cheap bipod and Im happy with it
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Thank you! I'll look at this bipod. I like the price, but I still look for quality.
Anybody with advice on whether my Vanguard Porta-Aim choice is good or would you offer me another brand or model that I am satisfied with?
Honestly for bullpup, I do not worry about optic shooting because Taipan or PCP as a whole are light and have no recoil as my Hatsan 125 but I also think that for distant firing will be plus if the rifle is fixed ... at least at one point .
Also this rest will be invaluable for my Hatsan 125 who has a big double kick, because I can not even make an elementary group like shooting at 35 yards and at 50 is even worse ...
Regarding cleaning and servicing rest... There is a lot of choice but I can not decide which budget option to choose, considering the fact that it's a bullpup ...
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the bipod I have looks solid, and I use it for everything, servicing the gun, to charge it, to shoot. You can always buy more stuff or pay more, but for me the quality is on the rifle, I don't know anything negative I'll say about this bipod. Well maybe that it doesn't have a quick release, to install it and remove it from the rifle you need an allen key.
Quick question, why are you using something different to clean/service? I'm curious because so far with this bipod I haven't had the need of anything else.
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Thank you friend,
With what I wrote, I have nothing against this bipod, but rather I hope it is not only cheap, but also qualitative.
Regarding cleaning and servicing rest - I had one made by a colleague in Bulgaria. One reason to sell it is that when I oil the rifle with Balistol as much as I keep dripping oil... I also constantly search for the tools where there are...other things like, for example, those of Tripton have a place to put all consumables I use when servicing the rifle.
Another thing I can think of is that I can easily set trigger for example and so on.
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That looks good to me:"CVLIFE Tactical Rifle Bipod Made of Carbon Fiber 6 to 9 with Quick Release Adapter for 20 mm Rail"
but I do not know if it surpasses the bipod that my colleague suggested earlier?
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Not a bullpup, but I am wondering how the Taipan stacks up to the RAW HM1000x? I am looking for one that is ambidextrous.
Have a TM-1000 and shoot it as a .20 cal, tho have .22 barrel for it.
Equally accurate guns ... tho WORLDS AWAY in how they handle and where you would shoot each, or at least wish too being both are specialized PCP's.
The RAW is a TARGET GUN to its core !! Big & heavy being solid as a rock.
The Taipan is a FIELD GUN to it's core !! Small and compact tho solid as a rock.
* Both have stellar triggers, simply sublime triggers.
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Hello friends,
Any bubble leveler suggestions if you are happy about it and possibly a budget option?
On the advice of colleagues a better option is that over the optics as far as I understand ...
About WeatherFlow Is not anyone using it? I want to use WeatherFlow along with Strelok Pro?
Greetings .
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Orion what about this bipod:
cvlife Adjustable 6" to 9" Sniper Ultral Rifle Bipod Spring Return+Picatinny Rail Mount
Sale:£11.99 + £7.50 delivery
I like this to myself: UTG Heavy Duty Recon 360 Bipod 5.59" - 7" 85.35 pound, but I think I'd give a chance to the cheap :)
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Orion what about this bipod:
cvlife Adjustable 6" to 9" Sniper Ultral Rifle Bipod Spring Return+Picatinny Rail Mount
Sale:£11.99 + £7.50 delivery
I like this to myself: UTG Heavy Duty Recon 360 Bipod 5.59" - 7" 85.35 pound, but I think I'd give a chance to the cheap :)
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The cvlife is the one I have. You can always upgrade. For me, the case was the problem, because I installed a Sumo moderator and that added 6 to the rifle length. But I finally got one softcase and Im happy with it
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Ok,
I will also look for a rifle case obviously because I wrote to those from Balistas.com to offer me a rifle case because I intend to take the rifle from them but they did not answer me ...
I asked you about this bipod model because the one who told you was from the American Amazon and the one I asked you was from the English Amazon - I will not pay customs ...
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What about this brand "Deben" brand and AirForceOne Panther pellets ?
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What about this brand "Deben" brand and AirForceOne Panther pellets ?
For pellet you will need to try them and find the best for your rifle. Mine its shooting fine the JSB 25 gr and baracuda hunter extreme. But again that doesnt means your rifle will like them
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Yes, that's clear, but now I've seen them for the first time, and I've never even heard them.
I shoot with JSB and H&N only, but I also want to try something else.
I certainly want to try maybe next year - Crosman who is not there in Bulgaria.
These "Deben" no one uses them?
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Hi friends one more question...
Maybe this topic has been chewed countless times in different themes and on different occasions but do I want to get more clarity about the influence of barrel length on the general "picture" in PCP?
Here I came across three choices for me Short, Standard or Long.
As a person who likes type "carbine" rifles, I immediately decided to choose "long" but then I thought that why I would choose a "long" variant as I once again turned to a "carbine" type
So I decided to choose a "Standard" bullpup length option.
However, it happened so many people advised me to choose the "Short" option and then I decided to figure out what would change if I chose each of the three possible options = barrel length?
If you ignore personal preference for gun size and the shape, material and weight of the pellet. And let us assume that we have exactly the same barrels with a difference in their length only, what should be expected to happen?
I personally assume that the difference will be in long-distance traffic, but even I'm not sure
What do you think?
The pellet area on which the pressure and volume of air flow is the same in all three cases and then it is clear that only the length of the barrel will influence and that's what I'm looking for !?
Greetings.
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The barrel length will effect the power generated by the gun. A longer barrel will yield more power if everything else is the same. The way I understand it, the longer barrel has more room for the air to expand and push the pellet before the pellet exits the barrel. That being said, a longer barrel can be more efficient than a shorter barrel since you can generate the same FPS (power) using less air.
kgb
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The barrel length will effect the power generated by the gun. A longer barrel will yield more power if everything else is the same. The way I understand it, the longer barrel has more room for the air to expand and push the pellet before the pellet exits the barrel. That being said, a longer barrel can be more efficient than a shorter barrel since you can generate the same FPS (power) using less air.
This is the reason I like the Bull Pup design. You have a full length barrel, and therefore full power capability, with a shorter overall length.
kgb
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lol
looks like I quoted myself instead of modifying the post...
kgb
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If we accept 100% that this is so (You do not think I'm against) then the choice between the three options is mainly a personal choice because if a large power only is sought, it will be chosen as a "carbine" because of the longer barrel (this is not always the case ...)?
And what is the "length" of the barrel when firing with pellets vs slugs ?
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If we accept 100% that this is so (I do not think I'm against) then the choice between the three options is mainly a personal choice because if a large power only is sought, it will be chosen as a "carbine" because of the longer barrel (this is not always the case ...)?
And what is the "length" of the barrel when firing with pellets vs slugs ?
I think twist rate is more important than lenght for slugs. Accuracy can suffer if not enough twist rate to stabilize the slug.
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Given the choice I'd choose Long for sure! More fps if that's what you want, better efficiency with the longer barrel, and larger capacity airtube which is nice IMO. Here's some stats on them
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Thanks friends! You Rock!
Dairyboy are these data about Taipan? For another yours rifle or have it somewhere?
Orion (or anyone else) can you give me more information about the barrel data?
Greetings.
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Thanks friends! You Rock!
Dairyboy are these data about Taipan? For another yours rifle or have it somewhere?
The info on the guns were from the Taipan company. Those are for the short, standard, and long Taipan Veterans. Not my info but straight from the makers.
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Super! Thanks a lot!
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In short, the long barrel provides more power than the shorter barrel, but there are other factors that matter and this leads to my new questions:
1. What should be the barrel twist rate for pellets and for slugs? Is there a universal twist rate of the barrel for firing with pellets and slugs?
2. Which type of barrel polygonal, fully cut (as with firearms) and smooth with and without cuts at the end of the barrel is suitable for pellets and which for slugs? Is there an almost universal barrel with which to shoot both pellets and slugs?
Greetings .
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I can verify my mutant standard in .22 tops out at 38fpe. Wastes a lot of air at that power level though, when calculating efficiency of air used per ft/lbs
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I can verify my mutant standard in .22 tops out at 38fpe. Wastes a lot of air at that power level though, when calculating efficiency of air used per ft/lbs
Out of curiosity what weight pellet were you shooting to hit 38fpe?
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I can verify my mutant standard in .22 tops out at 38fpe. Wastes a lot of air at that power level though, when calculating efficiency of air used per ft/lbs
Out of curiosity what weight pellet were you shooting to hit 38fpe?
Barracudas as well as some of Nick's 21, and 25gr slugs.
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Any luck with Nick's slugs?
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Any luck with Nick's slugs?
Exactly the same title of a post I did few days ago... I'm really curious about this for my Veteran .25
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Any luck with Nick's slugs?
Yeah they were one hole on my 25 yard range at the house. I took it to the range and at 50 yards they opened up to 2 inches, and at 100 yards I could not hit paper. I think they were spiraling. I didn't take my pins with me, so I couldn't adjust power at the range, I was set a bit below max power at 31fpe, which is what I keep it at for JSB 18gr.
One of these days soon, I'll be at the range to shoot the winnie some more, and I'll try again, set to 35-38fpe, and see if that helps stabilize them.
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Any luck with Nick's slugs?
Yeah they were one hole on my 25 yard range at the house. I took it to the range and at 50 yards they opened up to 2 inches, and at 100 yards I could not hit paper. I think they were spiraling. I didn't take my pins with me, so I couldn't adjust power at the range, I was set a bit below max power at 31fpe, which is what I keep it at for JSB 18gr.
One of these days soon, I'll be at the range to shoot the winnie some more, and I'll try again, set to 35-38fpe, and see if that helps stabilize them.
Hey, sorry this is a bit off topic, but do you know where I can get the pins for the Taipan? I bought the rifle used and I don't have them. To install the LCD I used 2 allen keys but was a bit of a hassle, I've search for the pins but I cannot find them anywhere.
Thanks!
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Consider buying a cheap set of numbered drill bits on Amazon. Two among them will fit nicely, one snug and the next just a little loose, and are longer so you can get more leverage.
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Consider buying a cheap set of numbered drill bits on Amazon. Two among them will fit nicely, one snug and the next just a little loose, and are longer so you can get more leverage.
Hey Ray,
Nice idea... I have one of those! I don't know why I didn't thought about it before
Thanks!
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Any luck with Nick's slugs?
Yeah they were one hole on my 25 yard range at the house. I took it to the range and at 50 yards they opened up to 2 inches, and at 100 yards I could not hit paper. I think they were spiraling. I didn't take my pins with me, so I couldn't adjust power at the range, I was set a bit below max power at 31fpe, which is what I keep it at for JSB 18gr.
One of these days soon, I'll be at the range to shoot the winnie some more, and I'll try again, set to 35-38fpe, and see if that helps stabilize them.
Thanks for that info!
Any luck with Nick's slugs?
Exactly the same title of a post I did few days ago... I'm really curious about this for my Veteran .25
Shot 15 shots at 55yds with the 39gr and they were all under an inch. More to test but very promising
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Hi friends again,
I am already on the final line and ask for the last (I promise!) For advice:
I have the following three options in front of me because only from Balistas (Czech Republic) can I take Taipan without a customs charge (+ $415 >:( ):
1. Taipan Veteran Long 6,35mm Laminate
https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/taipan-air-rifles/taipan-veteran-standart-635mm-laminate/ (https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/taipan-air-rifles/taipan-veteran-standart-635mm-laminate/)
High is the price: 1 329.4 + 16 transport and honestly (not that the others are cheap ...) but they also wrote to me that for the moment they will not load / sell another option at 6.35 / .25 ...
Also, it seems to me pretty heavy for a bullpup - 3.9 kilograms + Athlon Argos BTR 6-24x50 MIL = 839.15 grams = 10.45 pounds :o ... I find it too heavy for me to shoot in a straight line and walk long in the mountain ... :(
2. Taipan Veteran Standard 5.5mm
https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/taipan-air-rifles/taipan-veteran-55mm/ (https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/taipan-air-rifles/taipan-veteran-55mm/)
The price is: 1 251.0 + 16 transport which is acceptable as an amount ... The difference is not big compared to this price in .25 but for the difference I can buy another need ...
The weight is: 3.2 kilograms + 839.15 grams optics = 8.91 pounds which is different from 10.45 => 1.54 pounds ...
The bad thing for me is that I wanted the rifle to be in .25 caliber but what I can buy is very heavy in my opinion and expensive as a price because of the laminate. I wanted Standard but will not sell ... >:( :'(
Another Brand as a Possible Purchase Option:
3. Calibrgun Cricket Mini Carabine 5.5mm ???
https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/kalibrgun-air-rifles/kalibrgun-cricket-mini-carabine-55mm/ (https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/kalibrgun-air-rifles/kalibrgun-cricket-mini-carabine-55mm/)
Price: 1 274.1 + 16 transport which is also acceptable as an amount ...
Weight is: 3.24 kilograms of rifle + 839.15 grams optics = 8.99 pounds which is different from 10.45 => 1.46 pounds ...
I know the brand is known as very good but I do not know anything about this model ... but as a size and price comes into my budget.
Taipan likes like reviews and data but I hope a lot of advice? :-[
Thanks in advance!
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Hi friends again,
I am already on the final line and ask for the last (I promise!) For advice:
I have the following three options in front of me because only from Balistas (Czech Republic) can I take Taipan without a customs charge (+ $415 >:( ):
1. Taipan Veteran Long 6,35mm Laminate
https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/taipan-air-rifles/taipan-veteran-standart-635mm-laminate/ (https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/taipan-air-rifles/taipan-veteran-standart-635mm-laminate/)
High is the price: 1 329.4 + 16 transport and honestly (not that the others are cheap ...) but they also wrote to me that for the moment they will not load / sell another option at 6.35 / .25 ...
Also, it seems to me pretty heavy for a bullpup - 3.9 kilograms + Athlon Argos BTR 6-24x50 MIL = 839.15 grams = 10.45 pounds :o ... I find it too heavy for me to shoot in a straight line and walk long in the mountain ... :(
2. Taipan Veteran Standard 5.5mm
https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/taipan-air-rifles/taipan-veteran-55mm/ (https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/taipan-air-rifles/taipan-veteran-55mm/)
The price is: 1 251.0 + 16 transport which is acceptable as an amount ... The difference is not big compared to this price in .25 but for the difference I can buy another need ...
The weight is: 3.2 kilograms + 839.15 grams optics = 8.91 pounds which is different from 10.45 => 1.54 pounds ...
The bad thing for me is that I wanted the rifle to be in .25 caliber but what I can buy is very heavy in my opinion and expensive as a price because of the laminate. I wanted Standard but will not sell ... >:( :'(
Another Brand as a Possible Purchase Option:
3. Calibrgun Cricket Mini Carabine 5.5mm ???
https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/kalibrgun-air-rifles/kalibrgun-cricket-mini-carabine-55mm/ (https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/kalibrgun-air-rifles/kalibrgun-cricket-mini-carabine-55mm/)
Price: 1 274.1 + 16 transport which is also acceptable as an amount ...
Weight is: 3.24 kilograms of rifle + 839.15 grams optics = 8.99 pounds which is different from 10.45 => 1.46 pounds ...
I know the brand is known as very good but I do not know anything about this model ... but as a size and price comes into my budget.
Taipan likes like reviews and data but I hope a lot of advice? :-[
Thanks in advance!
Can you order from Krale? You just said that if you order from any other place other than balistas you have to paid $415 import fee? You have other options and I don't see them all at that balistas site.
Edgun is from rusia, but he said that they have representatives in Bulgaria (http://www.edgun.ru/representativeseng.html (http://www.edgun.ru/representativeseng.html))
Vulcan is also from Czech Republic
you can also try a lower end bullpup but really good IMO, the Artemis P15 (around $500) you can find some reviews of it on the internet, I'm suggesting the P15 because it might be a pretty good first gun.
Funny thing is that most of the best bullpups are done closer to you than from me in the US, but for some odd reason is harder for you to adquire them.
Hope this helps, let us know...
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Hello friends,
Orion I know these sites and many colleagues here in Bulgaria buy from there but there is no Taipan.
I know Natalia. Ed relies on her because, as far as I know, she has property on our Black Sea, but in practice it is hard to understand her ...
It is "funny" but it is a fact - nothing in practice can we buy for Bulgaria from Russia and the former republics ...
The amount of $415 will be my duty if I buy the rifle from outside the EU >:(
I've studied the KalibrGun Mini Carabine .22
I like it very much, but I understand that .22 (.25 is not available) is quite weak 40 42 joules.
I looked at KalibrGun bullpups, not bad, but they are expensive for me
I also looked at Artemis P15 and Vulcan, but I do not like
So I go back to my original choice Taipan :)
But I have to solve this unpleasant dilemma for me Heavy and expensive as a price Taipan Veteran Long laminate .25 or the cheap and light Taipan Veteran Standard .22
My choice is difficult as I already wrote because the desired Taipan Veteran Standard 25 will not be sold :(
Is there anyone who can tell me if there is a Taipan Veteran Long .25?
Greetings.
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None of the US dealers are offering longs in.25 just .22.
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Thank you, colleague,
I was wrong to say ... I mean if someone has a Taipan Veteran Long .25?
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Hello again,
For information only - Taipan Veteran Long 25 at Balistas.com has a CZ barrel which makes me strange because I have always (think) in 25 caliber with LW barrel?
Asking something else even though it is not on this topic - is the new X barrel at FX like the old ST at which if I decide to shoot with slugs instead of the usual JSB should I buy a new barrel special for slugs?
Greetings.
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Hello again,
For information only - Taipan Veteran Long 25 at Balistas.com has a CZ barrel which makes me strange because I have always (think) in 25 caliber with LW barrel?
Asking something else even though it is not on this topic - is the new X barrel at FX like the old ST at which if I decide to shoot with slugs instead of the usual JSB should I buy a new barrel special for slugs?
Greetings.
Hi Svilen
It's my understanding as you said that the .25 Taipan uses LW barrel, I've never seen a .25 barrel with CZ barrel but being the case that will be sweet.
Also it's my understanding that FX is working on a liner special designed for slugs. They are working with Matt Dubber on this. The new X barrel was optimized around JSB pellets, but you might be able to shoot some slugs from it, but it was not optimized for it.
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I was wrong to say ... I mean if someone has a Taipan Veteran Long .25?
Not to my knowledge, but I am pretty sure somebody is building one right now. And one in .20!
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And talking about this, this is a great video where Matt talk about a bit of everything, including slugs and barrels
https://youtu.be/qhVIvgLlkxU
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https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/taipan-air-rifles/taipan-veteran-standart-635mm-laminate/ (https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/taipan-air-rifles/taipan-veteran-standart-635mm-laminate/) the second picture of the top row.
Thanks for the video I will see now.
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I was wrong to say ... I mean if someone has a Taipan Veteran Long .25?
Not to my knowledge, but I am pretty sure somebody is building one right now. And one in .20!
Excuse me, but I did not understand what you mean?
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You are right, .25 with the CZ barrell. Also Ive never seen one laminated so this must be a newer version. That is a Unicorn.
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Hello not to be bad but if it was Standard I would have taken it almost immediately ...
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Hello not to be bad but if it was Standard I would have taken it almost immediately ...
The long might have an advantage on shout count for .25 because the bigger air reservoir. I think shout count vs weight is what you should evaluate... I'll value more shot count but that's just me....
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Yeah more and more I think I do not think very wisely ...
I look for brands, models, sizes, weight, barrel length, barrel type and brand, power, etc, but I do not think enough about the number of shots ...
For "the moment" I still have a pump option because I do not have enough room for a compressor in my home and because I have to buy a bottle besides a compressor, both of which - the compressor and the bottle will worsen my budget and so on...But I do not think how much big air will be pumped into the rifle and then what state will I be in order to shoot ...
Of course a large volume of the rifle bottle will give me more shots but pump pumping will be madness ... Obviously, I have to choose either a small caliber rifle (22) with a smaller tank so I can use a pump and still have more shots or take a larger caliber (25) rifle and tank but take a compressor and a bottle.
It is a rather unpleasant dilemma, mostly to financial means and my desire for a bigger caliber ... but that is the reality and I have to decide. Naturally more shots are preferable.
I watched the video and, despite my bad English, I realized that Matt and FX were developing the "idea" of slugs and the barrels of FX. That's fine, of course.
I want as much as possible to buy a rifle that shoots almost equally well with pellets and slugs. Naturally, I understand that this can not be 100% because there is no universal barrel for the two types of ammo, but on the other hand I do not think to shoot both types permanently and most of the time I will shoot with JSB and H&N.
That's why I turned to Taipan instead of FX and also most people advise me that this choice will be better and I can also use pellets and slugs just about as well ...
Now I have to decide on what I think is 22 or 25 = a pump or a compressor and a bottle ...
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If I had the choice of a CZ barreled .25 long I'd buy it in a heartbeat!
However hand pumping I'd stick with a .22 for sure.
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I hand pump my .25, and I'm getting 55 shots out of it. Now, I don't use it for plinking, my gun is mainly used for hunting. What I want to say is that I don't use the 55 shots all at once, I can use it for 10 or 20 shots and I can handpump at the end, I'm not feeling the need yet for a tank.
Now, if I want to use this rifle for plinking, the pump is a hassle, that's why for plinking I have the springers
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If I had the choice of a CZ barreled .25 long I'd buy it in a heartbeat!
IN A HEARTBEAT! If I could purchase a .25 Long that had a CZ barrel on it I'd buy it in a New York minute. I HAVE a Vet Standard in .25 with a LW barrel. Someone please post a link to the Long in CZ .25. I'll sell my .25 LW Standard tomorrow if I can get a CZ Long .25. I have a Long in CZ .22, and it is lights out accurate. I AM A BELIEVER in CZ!
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If I had the choice of a CZ barreled .25 long I'd buy it in a heartbeat!
IN A HEARTBEAT! If I could purchase a .25 Long that had a CZ barrel on it I'd buy it in a New York minute. I HAVE a Vet Standard in .25 with a LW barrel. Someone please post a link to the Long in CZ .25. I'll sell my .25 LW Standard tomorrow if I can get a CZ Long .25. I have a Long in CZ .22, and it is lights out accurate. I AM A BELIEVER in CZ!
Trade with Svilen, he is dying for your .25 standard :)
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https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/taipan-air-rifles/taipan-veteran-standart-635mm-laminate/ (https://www.balistas.com/air-rifles/taipan-air-rifles/taipan-veteran-standart-635mm-laminate/)
I have one more can say the last question - How is the situation with a polygon barrel and a fully cut barrel?
Obviously, with a fully grooved barrel, the position of slugs would be better for turning the "bullets", although the twist rate will also matter?
Regarding a polygon barrel - I do not have enough information about how things stand besides what she looks like visually ...
Greetings and thanks to all the colleagues who were so good to help me! Orion Thanks man for your help!
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Hello colleagues again,
What do you think of the following:
1. Taipan Veteran Standard 25 vs. Brocock Commander 25?
2. Taipan Veteran Standard 25 vs. Brocock Batnam Sniper HR 25?
I would really like someone to make a comparison between these guns !?
Thanks in advance!
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Svilen You should check out the warp by wicked air rifles. Its really good. :D
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Thanks man but shipping to Bulgaria no way...
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Hello friends,
Suggest me a rest to use for zeroing the optics as well as servicing the rifle?
I watched Vanguard Porta-Aim, Tipton, MTM and the Caldwell Fieldpod (Magnum and Max) but I still can not choose
Of course, those of Caldwell Fieldpod I can also use if I choose to shoot at a longer distance than with the Hatsan 125 TH Vortex 22
Hope for advice from you.
Greetings.