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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Catadjuster on July 19, 2018, 01:33:53 AM
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My RS II arrived today from PA, and I’m wondering if I need to do anything before I fire it. I had PA Mount the scope and fire 20 shots already, and it’s currently at just under 200 bar. I don’t have a cleaning kit other than for powder burners. I’m itching to shoot it, but I’m in a neighborhood and it’s dark, so I’ll have to wait anyway. Will post some pics and the shot string from PA in the morning.
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Congratulations Wes. I'll bet you're gonna love your new gun.
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First thing you need to do is put some silicon grease on the fill probe O-rings. Mine lasted about three fills. And oh yeah, it's LOUD.
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Turn the gun upside down, and clean the barrel.
Then turn it right side up and go enjoy shooting it.
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First thing you need to do is put some silicon grease on the fill probe O-rings. Mine lasted about three fills. And oh yeah, it's LOUD.
Is there any certain type of silicone grease? I think I’ve seen some at auto parts stores. Is it also the same stuff to use on the hand pump o-rings?
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Turn the gun upside down, and clean the barrel.
Then turn it right side up and go enjoy shooting it.
Can I use Hoppes #9 on the barrel? I know that I’ve seen a thread that recommended WD-40 and Krull, but didn’t mention any powder burner cleaners, which is what I have here. Well, I have the WD-40 too, I’ve just never thought to clean a gun of any type with it.
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Ok, first time posting pictures here. Below should be the shot string from PA, they used the JSB 50.15 gr from a 2900psi fill:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/r7c8UH2Rz8yJXNTS6
(https://photos.app.goo.gl/r7c8UH2Rz8yJXNTS6)
And here are a couple of pics of the beauty:
(https://photos.app.goo.gl/KXbxyvHs28oBNNYVA)
(https://photos.app.goo.gl/5evPbmCrsMco2Xsx7)
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ok so the pics weren't quite in the order I was trying for. The shot string started at 882.03 FPS on shot 1, 787.72 on shot 10, and down to 642.14 at shot 20.
I also find it interesting that the color of the rear of the stock is noticeably darker than the fore end. Is anyone elses like this?
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you don't necessarily need to clean the barrel right away, I usually don't and shoot a bit before.
WD40 is a good cleaner but I prefer Ballistol.
use divers Silicon grease, Pyramyd sells Hill grease, yes same that goes on pumps
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Thanks Manny, my local dive shop has some in stock, I'll grab it this afternoon.
Also I just noticed that PA didn't send the manual for the RS. I got the manual/booklet for the scope. I'll give them a call to see if they can send it, unless it's normal for these to not come with anything? I would think that legally they would have to include something to warn people of over-filling, not shooting themselves, etc.
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Can I use Hoppes #9 on the barrel? I know that I’ve seen a thread that recommended WD-40 and Krull, but didn’t mention any powder burner cleaners, which is what I have here. Well, I have the WD-40 too, I’ve just never thought to clean a gun of any type with it.
Neither of those should be used on airguns IMO. Both can damage certain types of O-rings, so unless it's known that the o-rings in your airgun won't be damaged, best to use something else. Ballistol won't damage seals.
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I got my .30 RS II last week and took it out for the 1st time a few days ago. Only had a few mags worth of JSB 44s to try it with but I can tell it's going to be a keeper. Body shot on a collared dove at 50 yds was pretty spectacular.
Wish they would have put a functional air stripper on it so the shroud would be there for more than just decoration. When I get time I'm going to make a working stripper, shroud extension and baffles to quiet it down some.
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I got my .30 RS II last week and took it out for the 1st time a few days ago. Only had a few mags worth of JSB 44s to try it with but I can tell it's going to be a keeper. Body shot on a collared dove at 50 yds was pretty spectacular.
Wish they would have put a functional air stripper on it so the shroud would be there for more than just decoration. When I get time I'm going to make a working stripper, shroud extension and baffles to quiet it down some.
Evanix modum operandi is, powerful, short hunting guns,.....on the .30 there's only 2" of space from the end of the barrel to the end of the shroud,
the shroud is threaded to accept LDCs and there's plenty individuals out there that make quality product and you can decide how much more length you wanna ad to the gun.
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Wes , if the shroud dia. Is the 357 RS I can loan you my neil C. Ldc I'm down the road at lake buchanan , I would think the cal diff. Should not make much diff in sound. Outside dia on mine is .974
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If your in a pinch, and need some sil. grease fast, it is sold at the autoparts stores as dielectric grease in small tubes very cheap. ;)
I ordered a larger jar of divers sil. grease years ago, and use the heck out of it,and it is still going strong. 8) [size=78%] [/size]
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As Manny can tell you, if you are going to use the very accurate 44 gro jsb's, removing one to two coils will really flatten your shot string. You ccan simply use the adjuster in the rar of the block to get back the higher speed any time. 8)
Knife
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Wes , if the shroud dia. Is the 357 RS I can loan you my neil C. Ldc I'm down the road at lake buchanan , I would think the cal diff. Should not make much diff in sound. Outside dia on mine is .974
The shrouds are all the same on Rainstorms regardless of caliber,....so yes you can loan out your .357 LDC for the .30
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I agree with you. The butt stock is a little dark,and looks to want to show some nice grain. Just too dark to see it.
Knife
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I got my .30 RS II last week and took it out for the 1st time a few days ago. Only had a few mags worth of JSB 44s to try it with but I can tell it's going to be a keeper. Body shot on a collared dove at 50 yds was pretty spectacular.
Wish they would have put a functional air stripper on it so the shroud would be there for more than just decoration. When I get time I'm going to make a working stripper, shroud extension and baffles to quiet it down some.
...on the .30 there's only 2" of space from the end of the barrel to the end of the shroud,...
All the more reason to use a stripper and make use of the dead airspace in the shroud behind the barrel support.
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I got my .30 RS II last week and took it out for the 1st time a few days ago. Only had a few mags worth of JSB 44s to try it with but I can tell it's going to be a keeper. Body shot on a collared dove at 50 yds was pretty spectacular.
Wish they would have put a functional air stripper on it so the shroud would be there for more than just decoration. When I get time I'm going to make a working stripper, shroud extension and baffles to quiet it down some.
Evanix modum operandi is, powerful, short hunting guns,.....on the .30 there's only 2" of space from the end of the barrel to the end of the shroud
Manny, he has about 5" from the end of the shroud to the end of the barrel with the stock air cylinder.
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I got my .30 RS II last week and took it out for the 1st time a few days ago. Only had a few mags worth of JSB 44s to try it with but I can tell it's going to be a keeper. Body shot on a collared dove at 50 yds was pretty spectacular.
Wish they would have put a functional air stripper on it so the shroud would be there for more than just decoration. When I get time I'm going to make a working stripper, shroud extension and baffles to quiet it down some.
Evanix modum operandi is, powerful, short hunting guns,.....on the .30 there's only 2" of space from the end of the barrel to the end of the shroud
Manny, he has about 5" from the end of the shroud to the end of the barrel with the stock air cylinder.
On the .30 ?
all my .30s and .357 have 2 5/8" from the end of the barrel to the end of the shroud, if you take away 3/4" thickness of the endcap you have less then 2" of empty space.
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I got my .30 RS II last week and took it out for the 1st time a few days ago. Only had a few mags worth of JSB 44s to try it with but I can tell it's going to be a keeper. Body shot on a collared dove at 50 yds was pretty spectacular.
Wish they would have put a functional air stripper on it so the shroud would be there for more than just decoration. When I get time I'm going to make a working stripper, shroud extension and baffles to quiet it down some.
...on the .30 there's only 2" of space from the end of the barrel to the end of the shroud,...
All the more reason to use a stripper and make use of the dead airspace in the shroud behind the barrel support.
Really ?
.....with less then 2" of empty space I don't care what kind of baffles you make ain't gonna do much.
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I got my .30 RS II last week and took it out for the 1st time a few days ago. Only had a few mags worth of JSB 44s to try it with but I can tell it's going to be a keeper. Body shot on a collared dove at 50 yds was pretty spectacular.
Wish they would have put a functional air stripper on it so the shroud would be there for more than just decoration. When I get time I'm going to make a working stripper, shroud extension and baffles to quiet it down some.
Check out his pictures.
Evanix modum operandi is, powerful, short hunting guns,.....on the .30 there's only 2" of space from the end of the barrel to the end of the shroud
Manny, he has about 5" from the end of the shroud to the end of the barrel with the stock air cylinder.
On the .30 ?
all my .30s and .357 have 2 5/8" from the end of the barrel to the end of the shroud, if you take away 3/4" thickness of the endcap you have less then 2" of empty space.
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What picture ?
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The ones from the OP on the first page.
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ummm....Many knows what he is talking about. ;)
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The ones from the OP on the first page.
The OP pictures only show the outside of the gun, trust me my numbers are right,.....30 and .357 have less then 2" of empty space from the end of the barrel to the beginning of the endcap,.......that is your 1st baffle once you put an LDC on :) :) :)
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Totally misunderstood. Was thinking from the end of the air cylinder to the end of the endcap. "dang" I hate being 70.
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I got my .30 RS II last week and took it out for the 1st time a few days ago. Only had a few mags worth of JSB 44s to try it with but I can tell it's going to be a keeper. Body shot on a collared dove at 50 yds was pretty spectacular.
Wish they would have put a functional air stripper on it so the shroud would be there for more than just decoration. When I get time I'm going to make a working stripper, shroud extension and baffles to quiet it down some.
...on the .30 there's only 2" of space from the end of the barrel to the end of the shroud,...
All the more reason to use a stripper and make use of the dead airspace in the shroud behind the barrel support.
Really ?
.....with less then 2" of empty space I don't care what kind of baffles you make ain't gonna do much.
Not baffles; I'm talking about a Marauder-style stripper that directs some of the pressure back to the breech inside the shroud.
There's roughly 1 sq inch of volume between the end of the barrel and the inside of the end cap on this rifle. There's about 4 sq in between the barrel OD and shroud ID, between the barrel supports. That space is useless in the OEM configuration. I'll fix that easy enough.
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Evanix stopped making vented barrel supports because there isn't much room in the shroud to make much of a difference in the bigger calibers ( OK in .22 and .25 with the thinner barrels )
Yes you can do that but overall results will not make that much of a difference, only way to really make a difference is adding length.
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Evanix stopped making vented barrel supports because there isn't much room in the shroud to make much of a difference in the bigger calibers ( OK in .22 and .25 with the thinner barrels )
Yes you can do that but overall results will not make that much of a difference, only way to really make a difference is adding length.
Yes, that makes sense. However, along with some added length, that 4 sq in in the rear can also be used. Not like it's costing anything to do so. :D
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Wes , if the shroud dia. Is the 357 RS I can loan you my neil C. Ldc I'm down the road at lake buchanan , I would think the cal diff. Should not make much diff in sound. Outside dia on mine is .974
Ronald, I would love to try out your LDC, though I have a feeling that's going to cost me a lot of money. I have a friend in Burnet who wants to see the RS, so I will try and get out there soon, and I'll send you a PM with my number.
Thank you very much for the offer!
Wes
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Evanix stopped making vented barrel supports because there isn't much room in the shroud to make much of a difference in the bigger calibers ( OK in .22 and .25 with the thinner barrels )
Yes you can do that but overall results will not make that much of a difference, only way to really make a difference is adding length.
Yes, that makes sense. However, along with some added length, that 4 sq in in the rear can also be used. Not like it's costing anything to do so. :D
Yep, if you use it in a combo with an LDC it will help a bit,....... as a stand alone fix, not something you'll even really would be able to notice.
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Wes, I am 20 miles west of Temple. 8)
Knife
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I took the RS to my mom's house, where everyone around her has 2+ acres. I fired it once and decided that it would probably be best to take it to an even less densely populated area or get an LDC. Man, this thing is loud!
But pretty "dang" cool, too! :D :D
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Wes, I am 20 miles west of Temple. 8)
Knife
You aren't very far from me at all, I'm probably 40 to 45 minutes or so from Temple, if that (and depending on I-35 traffic) and maybe just a few minutes further from Killeen taking 195 through Florence. Back in the early 90's I lived in the Killeen area for a few years, talk about a place that has changed a lot! There used to be only a handful of restaurants in that town, now every chain you can think of is there.
After reading many of your posts over the last few months I'd really like to get together and talk guns and stuff, and tap into your wealth of knowledge on the RS platform. I'd be happy to bring a tin of your favorite pellets or a block of lead since it sounds like you are casting a lot of your own these days.
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Wes, I am 20 miles west of Temple. 8)
Knife
You aren't very far from me at all, I'm probably 40 to 45 minutes or so from Temple, if that (and depending on I-35 traffic) and maybe just a few minutes further from Killeen taking 195 through Florence. Back in the early 90's I lived in the Killeen area for a few years, talk about a place that has changed a lot! There used to be only a handful of restaurants in that town, now every chain you can think of is there.
After reading many of your posts over the last few months I'd really like to get together and talk guns and stuff, and tap into your wealth of knowledge on the RS platform. I'd be happy to bring a tin of your favorite pellets or a block of lead since it sounds like you are casting a lot of your own these days.
Go see Knife brother,
...only good can come out :)
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Had to get out of killeen. too many gang's now, and every year drive by's for initiations.
They love to drive out into the country and shoot at live stock and us. Filled serverl cars full for .45 acp and 5.56. Makes it easier for the Police to locate the offending vehicles and owners. >:(
Yep, Need to get together!
Knife
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Yeah knife killeen not the same town it was in the 60's when we visited my cousin's, i lived outside of florance for awhile ( my dad still lives there). Couldn't pay me to live in killeen now.buchanan dam starting to get a little crowded , might have to move north of llano to get some peace and quiet.
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Used to do a little pig hunting near the dam years ago, back when I owned an Archery Shop in Killeen.
Now my Wife and I are both disable and quite poor. But we still enjoy life! Luckily, she very much supports my love of Airgunning. 8)
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I had an uncle that ran a barber shop in killeen for many years it was clled jr Tuckers barber shop on H avenue IIRC you might have run into him back in the old days. I'm retired now and enjoying the heck out of it. Can't believe i spent 40 yrs out in this heat Ironworking ,couldn't do it now
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It use to not bother me, but now, with copd, it's rough. But that young Rainstorm keeps draggin my old bones out to shoot her! ;) ;D
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Well I've heard enough good things about Neil's LDC's so I emailed him yesterday, got pricing and delivery details, and placed an order this morning. Ron, I won't need to borrow yours after all, but thank you again for the offer!
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Hey guys, how much actual length does his add to the storm??
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Hey guys, how much actual length does his add to the storm??
The one I got is a 6+4 ( 4" of reflex going over the shroud ) so yeah, 6" longer alltogether.
you can chose the length, I've had before Neil make me LDCs with only 4" in front.
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Hey guys, how much actual length does his add to the storm??
Mine will have an overall length of 11", with 7" extending beyond the stock barrel length.
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Neil does excellent work! the LDC he made up for my Talon/Dor really does a fantastic job. Without it, it sound much like a hot +P+ .38. It's that loud. with the suppressor in place, it is very tame. ;)
Knife