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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Harpoon1 on May 09, 2018, 02:10:54 PM
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First PCP, trying to get up to speed, learn the lingo, walk the talk!
Getting a new .25 SynRod and need some hand holding.
I would like to throttle it back some, down to 30 FPE or so, for backyard use. Think 30 fpe is enough power and more importantly, want it as quiet as possible. Next on the list is consistency of power and low ES/SD.
So, with that in mind, Im assuming I'll want a regulator, possibly a Huma? Gauge or No-gauge? And a springand/or hammer kit to tune the power? No idea were to begin there! 8)
Anywhere sell the regulator and spring/hammer kits, for one stop shopping?
Thanks
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First of all, good luck with your new rifle.
I also have a 25 synrod. I have read every post on the dark side with Marauder in the title. What I have learned is the very few people regulate 25s. Marauders have 215 cc air tube. A regulated gun requires a small space for the regulated air to feed the valve. This is called the plenum. If it is too small then the air pressure will drop when the valve is open, resulting in a weak shot. So the regulator, the plenum and the valve use space in the air reservoir. While this does make the velocity consistent, it also reduces shot count because it reduces air volume in the reservoir.
Your rifle may work well at 30 fpe. I will be interested to know how this works for you.
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Welcome to the M-rod world!
Yep. Yep, and yep. I agree. A regulator is not the best use of space and air. There's not enough advantages to make it worth adding.
To make it quieter there are are a bunch of EASY tweaks, but here are three quick ones.
1) back the power off and tune for a lower fps....which you're already going to do.
2) open up the vents on the air stripper. (I almost doubled the size of mine)
3) back your metering screw completely out of the air flow. (4-5 turns out from completely closed)
There are many, many threads, on this site and a couple of others, addressing the possibilities and how-to's, but those 3 quick things will get you going down that proverbial rabbit hole.
Good luck and good shooting!
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Re: New Convert with .25 Marauder Questions
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Getting a new .25 SynRod and [...]
I've been here about a month and a half and learned a lot, but I keep seeing these mystery terms. I get that "Mrod" is the Benjamin Marauder, and "Prod" seems to be the pistol Marauder, but what is "SynRod"? (I didn't want to clutter the forum with a new topic just for this.)
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Re: New Convert with .25 Marauder Questions
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Getting a new .25 SynRod and [...]
I've been here about a month and a half and learned a lot, but I keep seeing these mystery terms. I get that "Mrod" is the Benjamin Marauder, and "Prod" seems to be the pistol Marauder, but what is "SynRod"? (I didn't want to clutter the forum with a new topic just for this.)
"Synthetic" stock Marauder.
At least thats what I think it means. And it is what I meant. 8)
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Yep, synrod is for a synthetic stock Marauder. This link will prove very useful in the future. There are tons of abbreviations, slang and acronyms.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=51866.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=51866.0)
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You will love the 25 mrod there are so many mods you can do to them sky's the limit good luck
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I have added a ldc it is quiet even at 50 ftlbs
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tons of abbreviations, slang and acronyms https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=51866.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=51866.0)
Thankyou! Very helpful.
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BTW L.D.C. means Lead Dust Collector, to avoid the more recognizable term muffler. Yes synrod = synthetic stock marauder.
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I have added a ldc it is quiet even at 50 ftlbs
Definitely want one of those too. Which one do you have and where can I get one?
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First of all, good luck with your new rifle.
I also have a 25 synrod. I have read every post on the dark side with Marauder in the title. What I have learned is the very few people regulate 25s. Marauders have 215 cc air tube. A regulated gun requires a small space for the regulated air to feed the valve. This is called the plenum. If it is too small then the air pressure will drop when the valve is open, resulting in a weak shot. So the regulator, the plenum and the valve use space in the air reservoir. While this does make the velocity consistent, it also reduces shot count because it reduces air volume in the reservoir.
Your rifle may work well at 30 fpe. I will be interested to know how this works for you.
There are plenty of regulated .25 Mrods out there. 40/40fpe, 24/50fpe, are pretty good shot counts and within reach.
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Do you think 45 shots at 30 fpe is possible?
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Jsar I think is where I got my ldc from
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Jefferson state air rifles
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Jefferson state air rifles
Yep, awesome, thanks!
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Search for Brian's Low Power Tune (BLT) on MarauderAirRifle.com. It gets you 25-30 shot at 800ish fps on a 2500 psi fill, great if you are hand pumping and really quiet.
When I first got mine I set it up this way and had no problem dropping starlings at 65 yards. If you would like to try it I will look for my notes for the settings I used which would get you in the neighborhood.
Also with the .25, you'll find the impact is much louder than the report from the gun.
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Search for Brian's Low Power Tune (BLT) on MarauderAirRifle.com. It gets you 25-30 shot at 800ish fps on a 2500 psi fill, great if you are hand pumping and really quiet.
When I first got mine I set it up this way and had no problem dropping starlings at 65 yards. If you would like to try it I will look for my notes for the settings I used which would get you in the neighborhood.
Also with the .25, you'll find the impact is much louder than the report from the gun.
Great advise.
http://www.marauderairrifle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=7328 (http://www.marauderairrifle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=7328)
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Being your first PCP, I would not jump into extensive mods right off the bat. There is allot to learn. The oem rifle can be tuned to 30fpe for 24 or more shots. Also, at this lower power, you may find a LDC is not necessary. Learn the gun, learn about pcps, figure out what you want to do with it exactly, then start down the modification rabbit hole.
Yes the old adage was that regulation wasn't beneficial on the 25 Mrod. That barrier has been broken. Regulation can provide benefit in the 25 cal Mrod, especially if your power level is less than 50fpe. Many have documented that here on GTA. It does require other mods, include valve and transfer port, hammers and springs. This becomes another whole level of tuning and learning. Not recommending you jump into that end of the pool yet.
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Search for Brian's Low Power Tune (BLT) on MarauderAirRifle.com. It gets you 25-30 shot at 800ish fps on a 2500 psi fill, great if you are hand pumping and really quiet.
When I first got mine I set it up this way and had no problem dropping starlings at 65 yards. If you would like to try it I will look for my notes for the settings I used which would get you in the neighborhood.
Also with the .25, you'll find the impact is much louder than the report from the gun.
Shawn
Thanks dude, didnt know about MarauderAirRifle.com! Good stuff, between MAR.com and Hajimoto's excellent YouTube tutorials, feel like I have a pretty good grip on it now.
Thanks again.
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Being your first PCP, I would not jump into extensive mods right off the bat. There is allot to learn. The oem rifle can be tuned to 30fpe for 24 or more shots. Also, at this lower power, you may find a LDC is not necessary. Learn the gun, learn about pcps, figure out what you want to do with it exactly, then start down the modification rabbit hole.
Yes the old adage was that regulation wasn't beneficial on the 25 Mrod. That barrier has been broken. Regulation can provide benefit in the 25 cal Mrod, especially if your power level is less than 50fpe. Many have documented that here on GTA. It does require other mods, include valve and transfer port, hammers and springs. This becomes another whole level of tuning and learning. Not recommending you jump into that end of the pool yet.
John
What gun/action is that in your Avatar in the "Blaster" stock, 2nd up from the bottom, in the middle ? Checked the Boyds website and they aren't showing it as being in the inventory anymore! Is it a DIY one off or they dont offer anymore?
Thanks
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John
What gun/action is that in your Avatar in the "Blaster" stock, 2nd up from the bottom, in the middle ? Checked the Boyds website and they aren't showing it as being in the inventory anymore! Is it a DIY one off or they dont offer anymore?
Thanks
That is a custom, long tube Prod I put together a number of years ago. It does use a Boyd's Blaster, but it was inletted by Norm, when he owned Discos R US. That was before Boyd's supported any of the Benjamin air guns. IMO: the Blaster is one of Boyd's best stocks for a mrod or disco/maximus. Not sure why they haven't added it to their lineup yet.
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John
What gun/action is that in your Avatar in the "Blaster" stock, 2nd up from the bottom, in the middle ? Checked the Boyds website and they aren't showing it as being in the inventory anymore! Is it a DIY one off or they dont offer anymore?
Thanks
That is a custom, long tube Prod I put together a number of years ago. It does use a Boyd's Blaster, but it was inletted by Norm, when he owned Discos R US. That was before Boyd's supported any of the Benjamin air guns. IMO: the Blaster is one of Boyd's best stocks for a mrod or disco/maximus. Not sure why they haven't added it to their lineup yet.
Bummer!
I agree, I have a 10/22 in one and its very ergonomic, comfortable, from any position.
Might shoot them an email and see if I (we) can persuade them to add it to the lineup! I much prefer it over their regular thumbhole stock.
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Following. Is that the same as the Savage arms 93R17 BTV?
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I ended up stopping at .200 when drilling out the air stripper holes, going in stages. It makes a big differance. The TSS also cut down noise alot by cutting down on wasted air. At this point a QUALITY depinger is in order, as it is loud. The part that is getting left out, is you now need a target backer that absorbs the noise, such as ground up rubber they use for playgrounds and mulch, as the impact report is loud.
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Being your first PCP, I would not jump into extensive mods right off the bat. There is allot to learn. The oem rifle can be tuned to 30fpe for 24 or more shots. Also, at this lower power, you may find a LDC is not necessary. Learn the gun, learn about pcps, figure out what you want to do with it exactly, then start down the modification rabbit hole.
Yes the old adage was that regulation wasn't beneficial on the 25 Mrod. That barrier has been broken. Regulation can provide benefit in the 25 cal Mrod, especially if your power level is less than 50fpe. Many have documented that here on GTA. It does require other mods, include valve and transfer port, hammers and springs. This becomes another whole level of tuning and learning. Not recommending you jump into that end of the pool yet.
+1 Great post!
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I have a 10/22...
Now that you have a 25 synrod that 10/22 will just collect dust. :D
I should know, have two heavily modified 10/22's that haven't been shot since getting the pcp bug. ::)
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Following. Is that the same as the Savage arms 93R17 BTV?
Is what the same? The stock? If so, no. I've got one those too, well, kind of. Its a 93R17 FV-SR in a Boyds thumbhole stock.
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I have a 10/22...
Now that you have a 25 synrod that 10/22 will just collect dust. :D
I should know, have two heavily modified 10/22's that haven't been shot since getting the pcp bug. ::)
"Horses for courses" brother! We shoot the 10/22's out to 300 yds on a regular basis. And I'm knee deep in this 6.5 phenomenon right now, thats the Creedmoor and Grendel versions! Thats on top of shooting 30,000+ rounds through the Springers last year. Something has to give! 8)
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Search for Brian's Low Power Tune (BLT) on MarauderAirRifle.com. It gets you 25-30 shot at 800ish fps on a 2500 psi fill, great if you are hand pumping and really quiet.
When I first got mine I set it up this way and had no problem dropping starlings at 65 yards. If you would like to try it I will look for my notes for the settings I used which would get you in the neighborhood.
Also with the .25, you'll find the impact is much louder than the report from the gun.
Shawn
Thanks dude, didnt know about MarauderAirRifle.com! Good stuff, between MAR.com and Hajimoto's excellent YouTube tutorials, feel like I have a pretty good grip on it now.
Thanks again.
No problem. That's the great thing about this hobby, most people are more than willing to help you out and share their knowledge freely. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance.
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I have FOUR Marauders. Two in .22, and two in .25.
You definitely made the right choice with the .25, as they come with the good Green Mountain barrel.
Completely stock, I tuned mine for 27 shots at 800 fps using 25.4 grain JSB's on a fill. Excellent accuracy, and more than enough power to hammer birds, squirrels and rabbits. Gun is also very quiet at this power range. (I have neighbors all around me)
As for modifications... I have a .25 that I went all out with... regulated, big valve, etc, etc, etc. I also have the above rifle. Guess which one I shoot the most? The stock one. lol I did make a couple changes recently. I left everything alone, but added a lighter weight hammer from Rocker1 (member here) and a TSS. Now, instead of 27 shots at 800 fps, I get close to 40. Even makes the gun a little quieter, as it's wasting less air.
If I had it to do all over again, those are the only mods I'd do to any of my Marauders... except the .22's, as they needed their crappy barrels replaced. You can get carried away with higher power, but it's still a pellet rifle. Accuracy and precision are what are key with these guns. You can build a HAMMER... and it's still not going to be as powerful as a lowly .22LR. lol For anything up to squirrels and rabbits, a stock .25 Marauder is plenty. If you want to dispatch raccoon sized animals reliably, more power might be nice, but you're still going to want to take head shots. (aim between the eye and ear)
Good Luck!
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Search for Brian's Low Power Tune (BLT) on MarauderAirRifle.com. It gets you 25-30 shot at 800ish fps on a 2500 psi fill, great if you are hand pumping and really quiet.
When I first got mine I set it up this way and had no problem dropping starlings at 65 yards. If you would like to try it I will look for my notes for the settings I used which would get you in the neighborhood.
Also with the .25, you'll find the impact is much louder than the report from the gun.
Shawn
Thanks dude, didnt know about MarauderAirRifle.com! Good stuff, between MAR.com and Hajimoto's excellent YouTube tutorials, feel like I have a pretty good grip on it now.
Thanks again.
No problem. That's the great thing about this hobby, most people are more than willing to help you out and share their knowledge freely. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance.
Shawn
Appreciate the offer. I called JSAR yesterday and talked with Travis. "We" came up with a parts list and as soon as they get an item back in stock, I'll place the order and get started. Between getting help here and YouTube, shouldn't be to hard to get it dialed in.
Thanks again.
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Travis will get you dialed in fer sure.
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I am total novice to this (first post), put an FFH in a totally stock Mrod .25, adjusted the hammer a bit and then put a 43 pellet string all over 30 FPE on a 2,800 psi charge with JSB exact king 25.39. Started at 740, peaked 789 finished at 730, so the es was wide, but effort was minimal. Also noticeably less noise.
Next I stuck in a Huma reg with gauge port, set to 2,100, adjusted hammer and put out a 36 shot string at 33 FPE within 4% es, even quieter. 30 of the shots within 1% es.
So i feel like I'm rapidly approaching diminishing returns for my purposes. 40 @ 840 would take greater effort/cost... new valve, port ...
Credit to the great people here, it came together quickly,
Thanks guys!
(caught the bug, think I'll start a Hatsan BullBoss .25 because I like to share, but don't like taking turns ;)...)
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I am total novice to this (first post), put an FFH in a totally stock Mrod .25, adjusted the hammer a bit and then put a 43 pellet string all over 30 FPE on a 2,800 psi charge with JSB exact king 25.39. Started at 740, peaked 789 finished at 730, so the es was wide, but effort was minimal. Also noticeably less noise.
Next I stuck in a Huma reg with gauge port, set to 2,100, adjusted hammer and put out a 36 shot string at 33 FPE within 4% es, even quieter. 30 of the shots within 1% es.
So i feel like I'm rapidly approaching diminishing returns for my purposes. 40 @ 840 would take greater effort/cost... new valve, port ...
Credit to the great people here, it came together quickly,
Thanks guys!
(caught the bug, think I'll start a Hatsan BullBoss .25 because I like to share, but don't like taking turns ;)...)
Nice!
Shot mine Friday for the first time. Shot the JSB 25's very well, no surprise there, and the 30.86 HN Baracuda were almost as good, albeit we only had 25 yds to work with. So far very pleased with the accuracy and even the trigger, without any adjusting, right out of the box.
We captured the second string/fill using the 30.86 HN's.
Created: 05/11/18 01:04 PM
Description: Mrod .25
Notes 1:
Notes 2:
Distance to Chrono(FT): 4.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 0.021
Bullet Weight(gr): 30.86
Temp: 77 °F
BP: 30.04 inHg
Altitude: 0.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
26 753 38.86 23.24
25 762 39.79 23.52
24 765 40.11 23.61
23 770 40.63 23.76
22 777 41.38 23.98
21 783 42.02 24.16
20 787 42.45 24.29
19 789 42.66 24.35
18 787 42.45 24.29
17 790 42.77 24.38
16 792 42.99 24.44
15 787 42.45 24.29
14 792 42.99 24.44
13 791 42.88 24.41
12 792 42.99 24.44
11 790 42.77 24.38
10 791 42.88 24.41
9 782 41.91 24.13
8 781 41.80 24.10
7 789 42.66 24.35
6 784 42.13 24.19
5 774 41.06 23.89
4 776 41.27 23.95
3 765 40.11 23.61
2 775 41.16 23.92
1 766 40.21 23.64
Average: 780.4 FPS
SD: 11.1 FPS
Min: 753 FPS
Max: 792 FPS
Spread: 39 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.0
True MV: 792 FPS
Group Size (in): 0.00
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Thanks Skimpy! I have been wanting someone to post an out of the box .25 cal Mrod tune. I don't know the fill pressures so I took a guess at that.
Here is a visual of the string. I ran an analysis for a 2.30% ES and you can see the results between the red lines and in the upper left blue box. It shows 19 shots within a 2.27% ES between 2886 psi and 2154 psi.
(https://image.ibb.co/kE37wJ/Stock_Mrod_tune_right_out_the_box.jpg).
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Thanks Skimpy! I have been wanting someone to post an out of the box .25 cal Mrod tune. I don't know the fill pressures so I took a guess at that.
Here is a visual of the string. I ran an analysis for a 2.30% ES and you can see the results between the red lines and in the upper left blue box. It shows 19 shots within a 2.27% ES between 2886 psi and 2154 psi.
(https://image.ibb.co/kE37wJ/Stock_Mrod_tune_right_out_the_box.jpg).
Keith,
That is awesome, thanks.
I just got my "new" chronograph up and running today. If my tank ever gets here, I can give you all the data "right out of the box" you want! 8)
Fill was 3000 btw. We stopped when we saw the FPS falling off, guessing right around 2000.
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How about some springer data?
This is my backyard squirrel gun, its a laser out to 35 yds! ;D
Factory spring tweaked with some shims to "balance" the power between jsb 7.33-8.44
Vortek VAC seal
Shimmed main guide and plastic drink bottle piston liner
Ultimox 226 lube
Probaly close 10,000+ pellets through it last year. 8)
Created: 05/14/18 14:04
Description: test
Notes 1: HW30 Urban
Notes 2:
Distance to Chrono(FT): 2.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 0.021
Bullet Weight(gr): 7.87
Temp: 64 °F
BP: 30.01 inHg
Altitude: 20.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
20 660 7.61 5.19
19 668 7.80 5.26
18 663 7.68 5.22
17 661 7.64 5.20
16 665 7.73 5.23
15 657 7.54 5.17
14 670 7.85 5.27
13 661 7.64 5.20
12 660 7.61 5.19
11 657 7.54 5.17
10 658 7.57 5.18
9 663 7.68 5.22
8 666 7.75 5.24
7 667 7.78 5.25
6 660 7.61 5.19
5 669 7.82 5.27
4 663 7.68 5.22
3 661 7.64 5.20
2 665 7.73 5.23
1 667 7.78 5.25
Average: 663.0 FPS
SD: 3.9 FPS
Min: 657 FPS
Max: 670 FPS
Spread: 13 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.0
True MV: 668 FPS
Group Size (in): 0.00
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Thanks! If you are in need of a free spreadsheet you can download the one that I am sharing below. It's not the Shot String Analyzer, but works good and will show you the shots within a 2% and 4% extreme spread (ES). I don't know why the GTA Mods don't put all of these free spreadsheets the members offer up into a sticky for newcomers or for those members in need of a spreadsheet.
P.S. This spreadsheet will work great with flipping and stripping out the FPS data from your Caldwell chronograph and is what I used. I don't retype anything.
Click here to download the free spreadsheet (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EBm-pOyrzbe_7awzH0Piii4KYHhR8Fev/view?usp=sharing
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Thanks! If you are in need of a free spreadsheet you can download the one that I am sharing below. It's not the Shot String Analyzer, but works good and will show you the shots within a 2% and 4% extreme spread (ES). I don't know why the GTA Mods don't put all of these free spreadsheets the members offer up into a sticky for newcomers or for those members in need of a spreadsheet.
P.S. This spreadsheet will work great with flipping and stripping out the FPS data from your Caldwell chronograph and is what I used. I don't retype anything.
Click here to download the free spreadsheet (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EBm-pOyrzbe_7awzH0Piii4KYHhR8Fev/view?usp=sharing
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Cool!
Thank you.
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Picked up a 177 Synrod also. Been monkeying around with the preload and stroke, along with pellet weights, etc, etc,...........
Here's the most recent captured string, before I tampered with the factory metering screw setting in an effort to flatten out the curve as much as possible. Factory setting was 4+ easy and set it to 2.5 turns from zero. And the speed went UP! To 900+! Wasn't expecting that. Venturi Effect/Bernoulis principle?
Still not happy with the accuracy or consistency, which kind of go hand in hand.
Anyway, i'd be glad to hear anyones critique of the data
BTW: fill was 2800 and stopped by 1500 IIRC, well below 2000 nonetheless.
4% looks like from 24-87 (discounting 1 shot 1 FPS below later in the string)
2% looks like from 46-69
Created: 05/19/18 12:31
Description: crosman 10.5
Notes 1: 3 turns preload
Notes 2: 10 turns stroke
Distance to Chrono(FT): 1.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 0.023
Bullet Weight(gr): 10.50
Temp: 77 °F
BP: 30.13 inHg
Altitude: 20.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
90 834 16.22 8.76
89 834 16.22 8.76
88 841 16.49 8.83
87 848 16.77 8.90
86 845 16.65 8.87
85 847 16.73 8.89
84 848 16.77 8.90
83 851 16.89 8.94
82 860 17.25 9.03
81 871 17.69 9.15
80 861 17.29 9.04
79 859 17.21 9.02
78 857 17.13 9.00
77 859 17.21 9.02
76 864 17.41 9.07
75 867 17.53 9.10
74 869 17.61 9.12
73 862 17.33 9.05
72 873 17.77 9.17
71 874 17.81 9.18
70 858 17.17 9.01
69 872 17.73 9.16
68 868 17.57 9.11
67 880 18.06 9.24
66 869 17.61 9.12
65 876 17.89 9.20
64 881 18.10 9.25
63 878 17.98 9.22
62 881 18.10 9.25
61 872 17.73 9.16
60 870 17.65 9.14
59 869 17.61 9.12
58 874 17.81 9.18
57 875 17.85 9.19
56 862 17.33 9.05
55 866 17.49 9.09
54 864 17.41 9.07
53 880 18.06 9.24
52 871 17.69 9.15
51 879 18.02 9.23
50 859 17.21 9.02
49 863 17.37 9.06
48 872 17.73 9.16
47 864 17.41 9.07
46 869 17.61 9.12
45 861 17.29 9.04
44 857 17.13 9.00
43 860 17.25 9.03
42 873 17.77 9.17
41 867 17.53 9.10
40 857 17.13 9.00
39 859 17.21 9.02
38 852 16.93 8.95
37 849 16.81 8.91
36 853 16.97 8.96
35 857 17.13 9.00
34 851 16.89 8.94
33 849 16.81 8.91
32 851 16.89 8.94
31 864 17.41 9.07
30 858 17.17 9.01
29 859 17.21 9.02
28 846 16.69 8.88
27 844 16.61 8.86
26 858 17.17 9.01
25 856 17.09 8.99
24 850 16.85 8.93
23 842 16.53 8.84
22 845 16.65 8.87
21 831 16.10 8.73
20 841 16.49 8.83
19 835 16.26 8.77
18 828 15.99 8.69
17 838 16.38 8.80
16 822 15.76 8.63
15 827 15.95 8.68
14 824 15.83 8.65
13 822 15.76 8.63
12 823 15.79 8.64
11 826 15.91 8.67
10 827 15.95 8.68
9 821 15.72 8.62
8 810 15.30 8.51
7 819 15.64 8.60
6 809 15.26 8.49
5 807 15.19 8.47
4 803 15.04 8.43
3 807 15.19 8.47
2 814 15.45 8.55
1 811 15.34 8.52
Average: 851.8 FPS
SD: 20.4 FPS
Min: 803 FPS
Max: 881 FPS
Spread: 78 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.1
True MV: 855 FPS
Group Size (in): 0.00
Sent from my iPad
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Nice.
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most mods can be done in your home workshop with ease, too...another plus for the 25 Mrod.
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Marauder takes the win for the second year in a row at the GTA Fun Shoot. This year was with the .25 cal Marauder by C.J (Ozarkairgunner).
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Way to go C.J.!!!
;D