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Airguns by Make and Model => Vintage Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: 45flint on March 30, 2018, 09:32:54 AM
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Don’t know how secret it is but just got the big bottle lifetime supply with my Crosman scope mount. Seems to be very good stuff, maybe it’s my imagination but rifle seems smoother and it’s not red and in micro tubes which is a plus. Lol
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Does this mean that you are giving it , " Steve's Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval ?" LOL
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Does this mean that you are giving it , " Steve's Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval ?" LOL
At least for Crosmans ::)
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Someone here recommended using a 'refillable precision needle' -[available at fleeBay] to better reach the small places, and then remember I had one of those from back in the 70's used to oil aquariums motor's shaft :D, Much easier to use on AG with less mess and no over-spills.
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Yeah, slickery stuff. Repeat buyer, myself.
I use it for metal to metal lube. Be careful on trigger mechanisms, it can make a trigger unsafe (hair).
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Love the Secret Sauce! 8)
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I was gifted some in a trade...used it to revive my 760...i
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Someone here recommended using a 'refillable precision needle' -[available at fleeBay] to better reach the small places, and then remember I had one of those from back in the 70's used to oil aquariums motor's shaft :D, Much easier to use on AG with less mess and no over-spills.
Good idea. I have a squeeze bottle with a tapered tip, but I like the needle applicator better.
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I got a couple 2 oz bottles, each came with reseal kits I bought from him.
I have absolutely no complaints about the stuff, but I don't like the bottles they came in.
Not sure if I care enough to get something else to put them in or a different nozzle ...ect but I know it's not the best bottle it could be.
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can't be shipped to the UK so use an equivalent but also use hydraulic oil and power steering fluid
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;D ;D ;D, ;) ;) ;), 8).
OK, I love the stuff ...
Cheers,
Smoketown
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I use a syringe to apply in all the right places.
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I ordered a small bottle of "Secret Sauce" with a Mac 1 Scout Scope Mount that I received Friday. I have never used this lubricant before. I think that I will look around for a needle type applicator to use with it. Good Idea ! Best Wishes - Tom
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Maybe Harbor Freight has a needle applicator?
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Maybe Harbor Freight has a needle applicator?
If not you can get them here from Ebay, other sellers sell them too, apparently these are used by sewing machine technicians.
http://tinyurl.com/y8gbbkyw (http://tinyurl.com/y8gbbkyw)
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I bought something very similar to Mackado's suggestion from Amazon. Works great, you just have to be careful when filling the reservoir, as the "Sauce" is a little thick and ends up spilling over if you fill too fast. That stuff is too precious to waste!
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I bought something very similar to Mackado's suggestion from Amazon. Works great, you just have to be careful when filling the reservoir, as the "Sauce" is a little thick and ends up spilling over if you fill too fast. That stuff is too precious to waste!
Not if you know the "secret." I have a quart bottle.
About 25 years ago Tim told me what the stuff is, but I aint tellin', lol. 8)
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Where can I buy the "Secret Sauce"?
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Where can I buy the "Secret Sauce"?
MAC 1 (http://www.mac1airgunshop.com/maintenance-s/1836.htm)
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I bought something very similar to Mackado's suggestion from Amazon. Works great, you just have to be careful when filling the reservoir, as the "Sauce" is a little thick and ends up spilling over if you fill too fast. That stuff is too precious to waste!
About 25 years ago Tim told me what the stuff is, but I aint tellin', lol. 8)
I found out about a year ago. Amazing how elementary the ingredients are.
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Secret Sauce is 30W AW (Anti wear) hydraulic oil according to the web site.
At $10 for 6 oz it's a better deal than most offerings.
Lube and clean your gun regularly and it doesn't matter much what oil you use.
Cheap 30W oil will work fine.
I use this on all the pump pivot points.
Available in straight 30-60W at the local parts store for $8 a quart.
I like the 50W as it stays where you put it much better than 30W.
https://www.valvoline.com/our-products/motor-oil/vr1-racing-oil (https://www.valvoline.com/our-products/motor-oil/vr1-racing-oil)
https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq (https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq)
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Secret Sauce. LOL On my Big Mac maybe.
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LOL... That's "Special Sauce". I doubt if "Secret Sauce" will do much for flavor.... Oh, wait... did you say "Big Mac"... ok then, maybe it will.
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Secret Sauce is 30W AW (Anti wear) hydraulic oil according to the web site.
At $10 for 6 oz it's a better deal than most offerings.
Lube and clean your gun regularly and it doesn't matter much what oil you use.
Cheap 30W oil will work fine.
I use this on all the pump pivot points.
Available in straight 30-60W at the local parts store for $8 a quart.
I like the 50W as it stays where you put it much better than 30W.
https://www.valvoline.com/our-products/motor-oil/vr1-racing-oil (https://www.valvoline.com/our-products/motor-oil/vr1-racing-oil)
https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq (https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq)
I have used 30W ND oil in all my vintage guns, not doubt it works well. And yes it’s it’s cheap and you’ll probably never use a quart up. Will still use it on my vintage leather seal guns. But I think the Mac-1 sauce is better for my pumper. I used it on the Crosman 108 and it seemed smoother tighter? And the large size bottle distributes drops of oil with little issue, and I’ll probably never use all that either.
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Yeah, slickery stuff. Repeat buyer, myself.
I use it for metal to metal lube. Be careful on trigger mechanisms, it can make a trigger unsafe (hair).
I can appreciate the above warning but I found that once the Sause found its way down into the sear it actually helped to smooth out a less than optimal trigger pull. So this stuff can save you some honing?
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I'm another believer in the special sauce.
Having known Tim for more than thirty years, I trust his judgement when it comes to what lube to use. (Btw - Bel Ray fork oil is definitely involved. I've rebuilt more than a few sets of forks and the smell of that stuff is distinctive.)
Be safe,
Jeff
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Three people can keep the secret of the Secret Sauce if two of them are dead! ;)
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Gotta hand it to ol' Tim, just placing “Secrete” to the Sauce sure was a great marketing tool. All that was needed after that was a few users saying it was the best thing since swish cheese… Ka-ching!
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I've heard Pellgunoil called everything from ATF to hydraulic oil dyed red to lord-knows-what. Turn out it's Monolec® GFS single grade 30w Engine Oil. A 1/4 oz. of it costs about 5 cents if bought directly. As far as detergent versus non-detergent goes, LE Monolec is a detergent motor oil.
Tune in a Tube is Almagard® Vari-Purpose #2 grease. It is a lithium complex formulation, red in color. It’s distributed by LEI (Lubrication Engineers, Inc.). This is the same company who supplies Crosman Pellgunoil.
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And WD40 don't smell like fish so, who knows?
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Dear All :
I bought a Fishing Worm Blower today at Walmart for about $2. I reversed the needle in it and filled it with some Secret Sauce. Now I have a Needle Applicator for the Secret Sauce. No Shipping paid and cheaper than Amazon. It works Great too. It will apply a small precision amount of lubrication to a precise point on my 1979 Silver Streak with out over lubricating. It was an easy and inexpensive way to obtain a good precision needle applicator. My Best Wishes to All - Tom
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I was just at Walmart today. If I can just figure what a "worm blower" looks like...
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I was just at Walmart today. If I can just figure what a "worm blower" looks like...
Here it is. It is used to make worms float up off of the bottom of a lake while fishing. Best Wishes - Tom
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I have a bunch of the needle refillers, 15 ml to 50 ml. Got them from HERE (https://www.fasttech.com/search?needle%20bottle). Free shipping takes 3-4 weeks but 7-10 day shipping can be had for about an additional $1.50.
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I was just at Walmart today. If I can just figure what a "worm blower" looks like...
Here it is. It is used to make worms float up off of the bottom of a lake while fishing. Best Wishes - Tom
Well I learned a new trick for my spring fishing, never heard of this?
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You can pretty much bank (no pun intended) on that trick. Old timers out here use it all the time with night crawlers.
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Does anyone know if Secret Sauce contains any solvents? I was of the opinion that it did not.
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I would assume it is solvent free, I t may have detergents ? Just don't get secret sauce confused with special sauce from the big mac :-\
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A simple test to detect detergents...two drops of secrete sauce in water. This effect would not occur with detergent based products.
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what would it look like with a detergent motor oil?
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what would it look like with a detergent motor oil?
There would be laundry floating in it?
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what would it look like with a detergent motor oil?
There would be laundry floating in it?
X2
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what would it look like with a detergent motor oil?
Not sure if you were just poking fun but in case you weren’t…without getting into the chemistry of water, oil, & detergent it’s very simple. I believe this was taught in elementary school.
Water has the greatest density of the three. This is why an insect has difficulty penetrating it (walks on water). Oil works in much the same way. Its properties are less dense than water & this is why it floats. Detergents form a kind of bridge between oil & water. In other words detergents (soap) have properties of both. This is why when detergents are added to oil/grease, oil/grease seem to disappear, when in actuality both water & oil are still separated but at a molecular level.
So, to answer your question; the same would happen if detergent oil was added to water.
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what would it look like with a detergent motor oil?
I also want to know what it would look like with a detergent motor oil.
Does detergent oil look different than non=detergent oil when dropped on water?
Is this a simple test to determine if the oil is detergent or non-detergent?
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Yeah, I wasn't trying to be humorous, I assumed by your first post that oil with detergents added would look different than the pic of your secret sauce on water. I'll have to try it to see.
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I'm still stuck on the "worm blower" thing....I imagine plump little "balloons" writhing over the surface of a pond, farting little bubbles where the hook goes through...what a way to go😂!
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I'm still stuck on the "worm blower" thing....I imagine plump little "balloons" writhing over the surface of a pond, farting little bubbles where the hook goes through...what a way to go😂!
I agree fishing through worm torture, don’t tell PETA.
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what would it look like with a detergent motor oil?
I also want to know what it would look like with a detergent motor oil.
Does detergent oil look different than non=detergent oil when dropped on water?
Is this a simple test to determine if the oil is detergent or non-detergent?
Yeah, I wasn't trying to be humorous, I assumed by your first post that oil with detergents added would look different than the pic of your secret sauce on water. I'll have to try it to see.
I don’t have detergent motor oil so someone else will have to give it a try. I think it is safe to assume though, the difference would be minimal. Why, because the ratios would be severely skewed. However, I think you will still be able to observe a reaction of some water & oil bridging with the detergent.
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I'm still stuck on the "worm blower" thing....I imagine plump little "balloons" writhing over the surface of a pond, farting little bubbles where the hook goes through...what a way to go😂!
RAOTFLMAO...quite the visual.
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I’ve kept quiet about this because I don’t like to brag but in ’08 I was awarded the Bullsh%#zer Prize for Chemistry.
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I was just at Walmart today. If I can just figure what a "worm blower" looks like...
I think they are on the shelf next to the "Fishing Worm Suckers". Maybe in the candy isle.
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Dear All :
I bought a Fishing Worm Blower today at Walmart for about $2. I reversed the needle in it and filled it with some Secret Sauce. Now I have a Needle Applicator for the Secret Sauce. No Shipping paid and cheaper than Amazon. It works Great too. It will apply a small precision amount of lubrication to a precise point on my 1979 Silver Streak with out over lubricating. It was an easy and inexpensive way to obtain a good precision needle applicator. My Best Wishes to All - Tom
Tom,
I just bought one of those today and did the same modification that you did. Excellent suggestion! Mine's filled with 30 wt. non-detergent oil. Nice, precise oiling.
Thanks for the great tip!
Randy
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Dear All :
I bought a Fishing Worm Blower today at Walmart for about $2. I reversed the needle in it and filled it with some Secret Sauce. Now I have a Needle Applicator for the Secret Sauce. No Shipping paid and cheaper than Amazon. It works Great too. It will apply a small precision amount of lubrication to a precise point on my 1979 Silver Streak with out over lubricating. It was an easy and inexpensive way to obtain a good precision needle applicator. My Best Wishes to All - Tom
Tom,
I just bought one of those today and did the same modification that you did. Excellent suggestion! Mine's filled with 30 wt. non-detergent oil. Nice, precise oiling.
Thanks for the great tip!
Randy
Your Welcome , Randy ! My Pleasure sir. It was just a passing thought and I figured I'd give it a try. Worm Blowers can be had at the fishing tackle isle in any store that sells fishing supplies. Cheap too. Best Wishes - Tom