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Airguns by Make and Model => Vintage Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: Yng@hrt on March 08, 2018, 07:50:12 PM
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'75 Blue Streak w/Factory Williams
I’ve waited a long time for something this nice. I included a pic of the action. It doesn’t appear to have ever been shot.
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Beautiful score!! How did it come your way?
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WOW....Marty . :o..THAT GUN is Out-Of-This-World-NICE ! 8) 8) 8) 8) Please Don't tell me that you paid $27.97 for it. :'(.. to a little old lady at an estate sale ! ::) SO next question...are You going to shoot it ? :-\ That was one Really Fantastic Score Marty ! ;)
I'm happy for you. ;D Best Wishes - Tom
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SWEET! Nice score Marty. 8)
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Thanks guys. I really appreciate all the nice comments.
No, as much I would like to try her out, she will never be shot. She’s already tucked away in a thick silicone sock like the ’69.
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Thanks guys. I really appreciate all the nice comments.
No, as much I would like to try her out, she will never be shot. She’s already tucked away in a thick silicone sock like the ’69.
What!! Awesome finds must be shot! Not the sock!
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Sweeet! ;D
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She’s already tucked away in a thick silicone sock like the ’69.
No!!!!! It's like the fancy dishes. You're supposed to use them.
Beautiful piece btw. I can see why you want to take care of it.
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Thanks again.
I noticed a tear at the bottom of the sticker. Closer inspection showed the impact went below the surface of the wood. So much for a mint Blue. Making arrangements to send it back to the seller. The pics in the ad weren't the greatest although I reviewed them again & the tear was already present at time of sale. I included a pic for those interested just in case it pops up again. Well...fun while it lasted.
Have another one due in on the 11th. Hopefully I'll have better luck with it.
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Thanks again.
I noticed a tear at the bottom of the sticker. Closer inspection showed the impact went below the surface of the wood. So much for a mint Blue.
Making arrangements to send it back to the seller. We'll... fun while it lasted.
Have another one due in on the 11th. Hopefully I'll have better luck with it.
So you want a gun that's too nice to use and are getting rid of this one because of one scratch ?
I'm sorry, but I don't get it.
They were meant to shoot and to see / hear that a gun like this is just going to sit around doesn't sound sane to me.
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Thanks again.
I noticed a tear at the bottom of the sticker. Closer inspection showed the impact went below the surface of the wood. So much for a mint Blue.
Making arrangements to send it back to the seller. We'll... fun while it lasted.
Have another one due in on the 11th. Hopefully I'll have better luck with it.
So you want a gun that's too nice to use and are getting rid of this one because of one scratch ?
I'm sorry, but I don't get it.
They were meant to shoot and to see / hear that a gun like this is just going to sit around doesn't sound sane to me.
YOU'RE RIGHT...YOU DON'T GET IT!!!!!!!
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He wants a safe queen...nothing wrong with that.
What did you pay for the beauty??
Thanks
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He wants a safe queen...nothing wrong with that.
+1 Different folks, different strokes. Makes this a more interesting place.
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I have all the guns I need for “shooting”. Some I shoot more than others. However, I treat all of my guns like “safe queens”. At the end of each shooting session, they are wiped down with a micro fiber cloth & placed back in the safe.
I think it should also be noted that for some, interests change over time & I’m at that point now. I know of but a hand full of individuals whose collections are such that their prized positions seldom see the light of day. I do not condemn this; rather I admire their commitment to preserve these outstanding examples. I thought this was exactly what I found; a mint example of guns I like. This so called “scratch” is a 1/8” deep blow to the stock. This is unfortunate because other than this the gun is absolutely beautiful. It is also unfortunate because of this, the gun IMHO is nothing more than a shooter & as mentioned before, not what I’m looking for & not at the price I paid. Perhaps others view it differently, & that’s okay. We all have our own interests & as was stated above this is what makes GTA great…the diversity.
The situation with the gun has been resolved & it will be shipped back to the seller today.
As mentioned before, I am waiting for another Blue Streak that should arrive in a couple of days. Not a William Streak version but by the looks of it, a mint gun with beautiful wood. Both stock & forearm grip are off of the same block of wood. Hopefully things will work out better with her & either way I will keep her because the price warrants it.
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YOU'RE RIGHT...YOU DON'T GET IT!!!!!!!
No need to yell, we can hear you just fine. :o
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With all due respect Scott, it cuts both ways. No need to make derogatory statements.
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I get it.. I'm sure you paid way up for it and it ain't what you expected. I also get that some of us are collectors and some are not. I'm both... I collect vintage shooters, preferably in the $200 range. In the vintage auto world, mileage is everything as is matching numbers, of course. A collectable safe queen would be expected to have original box, paperwork and flawless condition.
BTW.... was the box damaged as well?
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Good point Bill. This was the first thing I checked. No damage to the box what so ever.
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Then the seller knew exactly what he was sending.... misleading.. send it back. However, if it could be negotiated so a discount could bring that gun into the $200 range I would consider it a keeper. That's just me though.
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A direct quote from the seller "Like new with williams peep sight in original box shoots and holds air". Nothing more.
He had two Streaks listed on the exact same day, ending at the exact same day & time with the above statement. This one & a Silver Streak. Both had the same type photo's; obscure photo's, full left & right views. Came close to bidding on the SS, although someone asked if this gun had barrel seperation. The seller posted pics of the weld, no seperation however, I have never seen a worse weld on any Dan. Several gaps in the bead.
& yes, even if the price was $250 I would hang onto it, but this isn't the case.
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Just goes to show.... sometimes you DON'T get what you pay for.
Before my air gun affliction, I refused to buy anything online. I wouldn't buy anything I couldn't put my hands on first. This is why.
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I think I'm going to toss that partial refund idea to the seller. You never know. At least it's worth a shot.
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Wow....bee-you-tee-ful!!!!!!
What a great find that was!
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Well, good luck with it. It's still a beautiful gun and the box makes it a bit more. Probably a great shooter too.
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I think I'm going to toss that partial refund idea to the seller. You never know. At least it's worth a shot.
Marty...is there any possibility that the small dent could be removed ? I have read about guys here in the Forum that have found ways to get dents out on stocks that they are refinishing. That is such a shame that there was a small dent under the decal. Heck that dent could have come from handling the gun rough at the factory. Who Knows ? I hope your next gun, that you have got coming, will be " All that you want it to be." I also hope that you can negotiate a partial refund on this gun. Wow that gun is so Nice.
Best of Luck on the Next Gun and Best Wishes - Tom
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Thank you Lizzie.
I think I'm going to toss that partial refund idea to the seller. You never know. At least it's worth a shot.
Marty...is there any possibility that the small dent could be removed ? I have read about guys here in the Forum that have found ways to get dents out on stocks that they are refinishing. That is such a shame that there was a small dent under the decal. Heck that dent could have come from handling the gun rough at the factory. Who Knows ? I hope your next gun, that you have got coming, will be " All that you want it to be." I also hope that you can negotiate a partial refund on this gun. Wow that gun is so Nice.
Best of Luck on the Next Gun and Best Wishes - Tom
I negotiated with the seller & we agreed on the price. Looks like she’s staying home.
Wow, if anyone can point me in the right direction of a craftsman capable of removing the dent, I would really appreciate it.
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I think I'm going to toss that partial refund idea to the seller. You never know. At least it's worth a shot.
Marty...is there any possibility that the small dent could be removed ? I have read about guys here in the Forum that have found ways to get dents out on stocks that they are refinishing. That is such a shame that there was a small dent under the decal. Heck that dent could have come from handling the gun rough at the factory. Who Knows ? I hope your next gun, that you have got coming, will be " All that you want it to be." I also hope that you can negotiate a partial refund on this gun. Wow that gun is so Nice.
Best of Luck on the Next Gun and Best Wishes - Tom
my only reservation would be in the negative effects on collectibility. On many items, a damaged piece in original condition is worth much more than a restoration. I would leave it as is, and keep it, if it were my decision.
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I would leave it as is as well... I might think otherwise if the ding weren't under the sticker. Removal of the sticker to get steam to the ding being the issue. Also, I would only attempt steaming it out if it's a compression ding. If it's broken the grain it will more likely always show. Again, for me it would be a beautiful shooter. Seems like a waste of a factory peeped gun otherwise.
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A direct quote from the seller "Like new with williams peep sight in original box shoots and holds air". Nothing more.
He had two Streaks listed on the exact same day, ending at the exact same day & time with the above statement. This one & a Silver Streak. Both had the same type photo's; obscure photo's, full left & right views. Came close to bidding on the SS, although someone asked if this gun had barrel seperation. The seller posted pics of the weld, no seperation however, I have never seen a worse weld on any Dan. Several gaps in the bead.
& yes, even if the price was $250 I would hang onto it, but this isn't the case.
If you can get over the disappointment (I do feel you pain as a collector!) negotiate. I had a very collectable gun come to me several years ago and a small defect wasn’t shown in the pics. The seller was happy to have it returned but we settled on a reduction in price and he sent me a check. Ended up being a good deal for me, sold it this year for a huge increase in price.
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I agree. The gun should remain as is.
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In that case.... congrats.
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Thank you Lizzie.
I think I'm going to toss that partial refund idea to the seller. You never know. At least it's worth a shot.
Marty...is there any possibility that the small dent could be removed ? I have read about guys here in the Forum that have found ways to get dents out on stocks that they are refinishing. That is such a shame that there was a small dent under the decal. Heck that dent could have come from handling the gun rough at the factory. Who Knows ? I hope your next gun, that you have got coming, will be " All that you want it to be." I also hope that you can negotiate a partial refund on this gun. Wow that gun is so Nice.
Best of Luck on the Next Gun and Best Wishes - Tom
I negotiated with the seller & we agreed on the price. Looks like she’s staying home.
Wow, if anyone can point me in the right direction of a craftsman capable of removing the dent, I would really appreciate it.
I'm happy for you Marty. That one looks like a great gun, dent and all ! Wow what a find - Tom
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Maybe with the reduced price you can look at it as a shooter? It could be a blessing in disguise? I have had such fun shooting vintage guns that were almost as new. You really get the feel for what these guns could do when they were bought years ago before some of the cost savings started to eat away at them. Old ones can be rebuilt but do they ever come up to the standard of new?
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Yeah... it would be much more valuable to me as a shooter. That said, I don't shoot my vintage guns near as much as my modern guns so wear would be minimal.
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Yeah... it would be much more valuable to me as a shooter. That said, I don't shoot my vintage guns near as much as my modern guns so wear would be minimal.
I don’t shoot any gun that much! Lol
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My plans at this time are to place in a sock & store it. I still think it’s that good. Aside from the ding it is some of the nicest wood I’ve seen. I was hoping the pix would give a better representation of an unmolested original wood finish. It’s nothing like I’ve seen before. Even when compared to the’69. It’s a soft satin finish w/o the pores of the grain being clogged. It's difficult to explain. This plus the metal…well, I’m happy it’s mine.
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Thanks again.
I noticed a tear at the bottom of the sticker. Closer inspection showed the impact went below the surface of the wood. So much for a mint Blue.
Making arrangements to send it back to the seller. We'll... fun while it lasted.
Have another one due in on the 11th. Hopefully I'll have better luck with it.
So you want a gun that's too nice to use and are getting rid of this one because of one scratch ?
I'm sorry, but I don't get it.
They were meant to shoot and to see / hear that a gun like this is just going to sit around doesn't sound sane to me.
YOU'RE RIGHT...YOU DON'T GET IT!!!!!!!
I understand that you want a safe queen, but the thought of someone wanting one not to shoot is weird to me.
No body can tell you what not to do with something you own, but this is just a foreign concept to me.
Btw sorry for coming off as insulting, and way to go for keeping it.
You never know who could have bought the gun if returned and said person might have been the type to spray paint it camo or something.
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bantam5s, there are many reservations I have regarding your methods when it comes to pumpers, or air guns in general. Never do I question any of them but you seem to be very opinionated when it comes to others. I’m not really sure why because ultimately it is the owner's opinion that matters most. Wouldn’t you agree?
Ok…you edited your response so I’ll edit mine. Apology accepted.
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My plans at this time are to place in a sock & store it. I still think it’s that good. Aside from the ding it is some of the nicest wood I’ve seen. I was hoping the pix would give a better representation of an unmolested original wood finish. It’s nothing like I’ve seen before. Even when compared to the’69. It’s a soft satin finish w/o the pores of the grain being clogged. It's difficult to explain. This plus the metal…well, I’m happy it’s mine.
Seeing a time machine gun can be so cool. They are few and far between, most airguns are shot up. I can understand where you are coming from especially since you own Sheridan’s. I have three air pistols I’m keeping mint, cause holding something in the same condition as the buyer 50 years ago or longer is a trip.
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I have a BF 137 in a box. I do shoot it but, not very often. Maybe 5 times since I've owned it. Only because I have others.
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Well stated gentlemen. I have several Dan’s that are fine examples I I’m able to shoot whenever the need arises. I am very familiar as to how fine a vintage pumper they are. No need to experiment with one that as far as I can tell hasn’t seen the light of day much less shot. I know of one gentleman that only turns on the lights to photograph his Dan’s & wear’s cotton gloves to handle them. I’m not saying I would go to those extremes although I think it paints a picture as to how valuable & prized; as Steve mentioned, time capsules are.
Same thing with vintage anything; original unmolested variations are much sought after by folks who are searching for a blue print into the past to restore their prized possessions or for whatever reason. It’s funny & somewhat sad that the first thing a youngster what’s to do to a new anything is blast it, or in the case of a sports car, modify it, & drive it like they stole it. Same thing here in my opinion, no sir/madam, no lead running through this Dan, at least none you'll no of. :)
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I can understand and identify with those thoughts.
Recently, I happened upon an older (not antique) model Gamo Stutzen. After buying it, and giving it a look-over, I decided that it was very likely still in new condition...couldn't find a flaw on it.
I did not want to shoot it.
For whatever reason, I am adverse to shooting an old gun that is still in like-new condition...something about not being able to preserve it in time, as it was out of the factory.
For that reason, I decided to sell it.
There was no reason for me to hold onto it, no matter how much I valued it, because Gamo is not my "thing".
It's a beautiful gun, and now has a new home, with a man who highly values it. I was so happy to find someone who wanted it, whom I knew would also take great care with it, while also using it.
Currently, I have an old model 36 Diana, which looks like it's still new.
I bought it to shoot, having no idea before buying it, just how very nice it is.
I will eventually get to the point that I don't mind breaking it in (I hope).
I think that's one of the reasons I tend to buy older guns which are already broken. I can appreciate them more for their utility and their mechanical performance, and not get tied up in not wanting to hurt the value of them, on the collector's market.
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Currently, I have an old model 36 Diana, which looks like it's still new.
I bought it to shoot, having no idea before buying it, just how very nice it is.
That's funny. That's pretty much how I came upon mine. It was mint and under a year old.
I've put marks on the barrel from cocking it with a wedding ring on all these years.
But that's what I bought it for. To shoot. So long as all of us are enjoying our hobby.
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I can appreciate where you’re coming from Lizzie. I had purchase a couple of new to me Dan’s. One so nice in fact that it sat for a couple of months until I finally caved. Took her out hunting small game & I had the time of my life. I’ll never forget that. I also purchased a S392P. It too sat for several weeks before I decided to try him out & again had the time of my life. My last case in point is couple of Benji-Sheridan pistols, a nickel H9 & a nickel H9A. They sat for the longest time at least until these matches started & I couldn’t resist. So I guess what I’m saying is, I too buy my AG’s to shoot & I totally understand.
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Pretty!
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Beautiful score!! How did it come your way?
Thanks Stuart...eBay
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The other Blue wasn’t due to arrive until Monday. It already made to Albuquerque so I’m assuming it will be here today. No need to start another thread for her. I’ll post pix here when she arrives.
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Marty has been a busy boy! Can't wait to see your new Blue.
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The other Blue wasn’t due to arrive until Monday. It already made to Albuquerque so I’m assuming it will be here today. No need to start another thread for her. I’ll post pix here when she arrives.
Gee Marty...I don't care if you put your guns away and decide to not shoot them or not. I just Very Much Appreciate Looking at them. Those are Very Nice Guns that you have been able to acquire, Marty. You really have some REAL LOOKERS ! 8) The only thing that I would ask of you is... Don't Ever Stop Posting the Pictures of your gun collection. :) My Best Wishes - Tom
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I have some beautiful Sheridans, including Model A's & B's & very early C's , that are SUPER nice !! I shoot every rifle I own, But I am " extri keerful " when handling those !!
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Steve, I can see you shooting those fine vintage rifles wearing white gloves. Much like a museum curator handling an ancient artifact. ;)
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Steve, I can see you shooting those fine vintage rifles wearing white gloves. Much like a museum curator handling an ancient artifact. ;)
If these are not shot a little , they are prone to having their seals dry out, & need to be rebuilt. I don't want to have to tear apart a " like new, never fired Sheridan." That would be scary ! Of course you can say store these Sheridans oiled & with a pump or two. That is fine, but if you put these in a case & store in a closet for a long time,,, do you think there will still be any air in it ?
That's the truth. Archaeology & Paleontology are also hobbies of mine,, so I do own some gloves !
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Maybe you guys misunderstood. That's the first thing I check when any pumper arrives. All have arrived precharged & holding air & this is how all of them are stored.
Thanks Tom. Nice of you to say that.
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I agree that leaving an airgun stored away, even oiled up, pumped up & never moving those moving parts can be bad.
Kinda like our body parts as we get older! I know I could use some sort of Secret Sauce for a few of my joints. ;)
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Maybe you guys misunderstood. That's the first thing I check when any pumper arrives. All have arrived precharged & holding air & this is how all of them are stored.
Thanks Tom. Nice of you to say that.
I had no doubt that that's how you stored them. I'm pretty sure this ain't your first rodeo. ;)
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Point well taken Dave. I also by my guns to enjoy. I'll bring these type guns out on occation to cycle them to make sure all the parts are lubed. By no means is she going into a time capsule. ;)
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Yep, when we buy guns that need resealed it's pretty much because they've not been shot in a long time and allowed to dry out. Unless you're abnormal you won't be able to resist shooting them on occasion.
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Hey Marty,
I was a custom carpenter, in another life. I worked in a mill working shop making custom windows and doors. Occasionally I'd do something ham-fisted like drop my block plane on a door.....leaving a good dent. I took them out with a wet cloth and an electric iron on med-low heat. If I was fixing a dent on a finished wood surface.....like the stock on your gun.... I would put a drop of water directly on the dent and let it soak in a bit. Then be very "surgical" with my wet cloth and iron. Hit just the dent. Use only cotton cloth. Even out the little blemish with matching stain. It works well. Good luck.
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Marty,
I meant to reply earlier that your rifle looks more like a 1974, than a 1968 !
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Steve,
I was wondering when someone would snap. ;)
It's actually a '75.
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Hey Marty,
I was a custom carpenter, in another life. I worked in a mill working shop making custom windows and doors. Occasionally I'd do something ham-fisted like drop my block plane on a door.....leaving a good dent. I took them out with a wet cloth and an electric iron on med-low heat. If I was fixing a dent on a finished wood surface.....like the stock on your gun.... I would put a drop of water directly on the dent and let it soak in a bit. Then be very "surgical" with my wet cloth and iron. Hit just the dent. Use only cotton cloth. Even out the little blemish with matching stain. It works well. Good luck.
That's good to know Stuart. I would some day like to see that in action.
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Not sure why the gun didn't make it in today. Arrived in Alb yesterday. Only about 15 min away. Looks like I'll have to wait til Monday. Here's a sneak peak;
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Gorgeous...wow!!!
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Another Exquisite Rifle ...For Marty !
Very Nice ...Very Very Nice ! .... Exceptionally Nice ! ! .... FLAT OUT FANTASTIC ! ! !
Best Wishes - Tom
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Thank you Lizzie & Tom. I'm looking foreward to seeing her.
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I have some beautiful Sheridans, including Model A's & B's & very early C's , that are SUPER nice !! I shoot every rifle I own, But I am " extri keerful " when handling those !!
I have seen these Steve & they are beautiful, but your "B" is the most incredable AG I've ever laid eyes on!
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You've done it again Marty! Great find.
Let us see your "B" Steve.
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Thanks Dave. & don't you dare Steve...at least not until I show blue... ;)
I am apprehensive about disclosing prices but in this case I will, simply to show there are still deals out there to be made, & because it isn’t what some might think. It takes a lot of searching. My finger tips are callused, maybe not that bad but close.
Blue w/Williams; $331 negotiated to $260, & this one; asking price of $175 negotiated to $160. To place this into perspective, I looked at a very nice blue for $400 w/o the Williams.
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I love the classic beauty of a nice wood stock!
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Isn’t that the truth Lizzie? I remember when I was in wood shop in junior high school. I wanted to use the types of woods my instructor was using but my parents said they were too expensive. So I had to settle for either mahogany or pine. That’s right; mahogany was very inexpensive back then. Looking back, it was a very nice wood.
I planted several Texas Red Woods (a tree you should be familiar with ;)) in our back yard. I planted two too close to each other so one had to go. I let it dry for a couple of years. Plained one side of an 18” bucked piece, ripped it into 3/8” planks & made my wife a jewelry box. Very pretty wood & nice grain.
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Drying and planing wood is no easy task!
I bet the jewelry box was beautiful...how thoughtful!
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How many Sheridan’s does this make?
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5 Streaks & 2 pistols- H9 & H9A.
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5 Streaks & 2 pistols- H9 & H9A.
Not bad not a obcession yet, that begins at 10
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A comparison between the '69 & '75 Williams.
I am hoping someone can shed light as to when this change occured. I'm almost positive the '75 isn't a pop-off. The script on those is quite a bit different.
The other blue finally made it onto the truck & will be here today.
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5 Streaks & 2 pistols- H9 & H9A.
That's a start !
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5 Streaks & 2 pistols- H9 & H9A.
That's a start !
I'm worken on et.
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A comparison between the '69 & '75 Williams.
I am hoping someone can shed light as to when this change occured. I'm almost positive the '75 isn't a pop-off. The script on those is quite a bit different.
The other blue finally made it onto the truck & will be here today.
I'm not sure if this pic will show large enough for a comparison. The same seller had this identicle williams to my '75 on the Silver Streak he was selling during the same time frame on eBay. The Silver was a '74.
...expanded the image on my pc...
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'78 Blue Streak (232000). Darn near perfect.
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NICE!
You Dog....I had no idea that gun for THAT money.
Congrats Brother... one of the few Blue's I have seen nicer than mine
I am just going over here in the corner to sulk.... let me know when it is safe to come out.
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Marty, I guess you won't be needing the other '78 with the dented up stock? ;)
I'll be glad to buy it off you.
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NICE!
You Dog....I had no idea that gun for THAT money.
Congrats Brother... one of the few Blue's I have seen nicer than mine
I am just going over here in the corner to sulk.... let me know when it is safe to come out.
Thanks buddy...ruff ruff.
BTW; That's a great smile you had showing off the fish. ;)
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Marty, I guess you won't be needing the other '78 with the dented up stock? ;)
I'll be glad to buy it off you.
Well let me see Dave...NO. ;)
Both tucked away in those dreaded...
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Marty I can appreciate your desire to keep your collectables pristine. That's not me but I am a shooter and tinkerer at heart and we need guys like you to preserve the historical pieces like your Dans
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Seeing these nice guns, I'm starting to see how you could want to keep them pristine.
An old beat up gun with character is probably more fun to shoot anyways since you don't have to worry about dings...ect.
I prefer to shoot and may be tempted to with one of these, but honestly I think it would take some stuff control and if you can keep from shooting them thats good on you.
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Thank you Don!
I’m not sure what it is David that makes me want to hang on to these or those like them as is? My kid in me wants to take them out & shoot them like there’s no tomorrow. I think most of it comes with age. I like simply holding them & admiring the craftsmanship that went into them. I attempt to visualize each one of the components as they were fabricated. Visualize the craftsman that assembled them, but most of all the wood. I’m not exactly sure how this was done but it’s obvious to me there was at least some hand work involved. The modeling marks left behind by the grit’s of the sand paper or fine toothed files is a clue, & is what intrigues me the most. I am amazed these weren’t taken down til they disappeared but I’m glad they were left behind. It’s a testament to the pride & skill level of some very talented folks & a testament to a company that never compromised its standards for the sake of sales. ;)
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I was watching the listing of your latest rifle on E Bay before you bought it. Glad you gave it a good home.
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Steve, The '78?
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The one in this post.
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The '75 was on eBay.
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Yes, the one you first described as a 68.
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Gotcha & thanks.
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Let us know how the new one is. Hope its better than the 1st one. Did you have to pay the shipping to return it?
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Let us know how the new one is. Hope its better than the 1st one. Did you have to pay the shipping to return it?
You may want to catch up of previous posts.
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Thank you Don!
I’m not sure what it is David that makes me want to hang on to these or those like them as is? My kid in me wants to take them out & shoot them like there’s no tomorrow. I think most of it comes with age. I like simply holding them & admiring the craftsmanship that went into them. I attempt to visualize each one of the components as they were fabricated. Visualize the craftsman that assembled them, but most of all the wood. I’m not exactly sure how this was done but it’s obvious to me there was at least some hand work involved. The modeling marks left behind by the grit’s of the sand paper or fine toothed files is a clue, & is what intrigues me the most. I am amazed these weren’t taken down til they disappeared but I’m glad they were left behind. It’s a testament to the pride & skill level of some very talented folks & a testament to a company that never compromised its standards for the sake of sales. ;)
The stock production is definitely something they got right, and something I'd like to be informed on.
Obviously there was a copy lathe involved, but I just don't see how they could do what they did and keep them cheaper than a firearm.
I don't see anything that screams inexpensive when I look at them.
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Thank you Don!
I’m not sure what it is David that makes me want to hang on to these or those like them as is? My kid in me wants to take them out & shoot them like there’s no tomorrow. I think most of it comes with age. I like simply holding them & admiring the craftsmanship that went into them. I attempt to visualize each one of the components as they were fabricated. Visualize the craftsman that assembled them, but most of all the wood. I’m not exactly sure how this was done but it’s obvious to me there was at least some hand work involved. The modeling marks left behind by the grit’s of the sand paper or fine toothed files is a clue, & is what intrigues me the most. I am amazed these weren’t taken down til they disappeared but I’m glad they were left behind. It’s a testament to the pride & skill level of some very talented folks & a testament to a company that never compromised its standards for the sake of sales. ;)
The stock production is definitely something they got right, and something I'd like to be informed on.
Obviously there was a copy lathe involved, but I just don't see how they could do what they did and keep them cheaper than a firearm.
I don't see anything that screams inexpensive when I look at them.
I think they were brilliant in using their production dollars. What did it really cost to use walnut? I bet not much, it’s the labor where the cost really is and they must have had that fine tuned to turn them out. What do you notice when you see that Streak it’s that walnut, worth ever penny.
Crosman I think pinched every penny they could. Their stocks don’t compare, post war never walnut, always the cheapest wood they could find. War surplus maple, elm at a time when Dutch elm desease was I’m sure killing enough trees to make elm dirt cheap. They did a lot of cool things but this was not one of them.
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Let us know how the new one is. Hope its better than the 1st one. Did you have to pay the shipping to return it?
He’s hoarding Sheridans. Stuffing them into silicone socks. Then imprisoning them in a gun safe. Never to be paroled. Oh the humanity! 😉
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Let us know how the new one is. Hope its better than the 1st one. Did you have to pay the shipping to return it?
He’s hoarding Sheridans. Stuffing them into silicone socks. Then imprisoning them in a gun safe. Never to be paroled. Oh the humanity! 😉
How many guns do we have that are really sock worthy? It’s a very personal decision? I’m thinking I have one. The rest are in a display on shelves in my bedroom. They are art would you put the Mona Lisa in a sock?
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Somewhere a kid wants an airgun... To see how many times he can pump it and shoot rocks through the barrel.
;)
That statement reminds me of the guy bidding at an auction I was at for a mint '69 Mach 1 with a 428CJ and a 4 speed... for his 16 year old Daughter's first car...HE WON!
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I have no problem with Marty keeping his airguns where he wants. They’re his. More power to him!
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I have no problem with Marty keeping his airguns where he wants. They’re his. More power to him!
If you don’t question things you really don’t have a forum?
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I have no problem with Marty keeping his airguns where he wants. They’re his. More power to him!
Agreed!
Think of it this way... how else are they going to be preserved for future generations?
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I wish I could just buy them and keep them pristine but If I did that I would have no toys to play with. Guys look on the bright side if Marty is like the rest of us his wife has no idea what they are worth and when he leaves for that shooting range in the sky we can get some pristine collectable AG's for very little money ;D
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I have no problem with Marty keeping his airguns where he wants. They’re his. More power to him!
If you don’t question things you really don’t have a forum?
Point taken. 8)
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Wow, I leave to work for a few hours, come back, & you guys are already planning my wake... ???
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As long as we have them some kid ain't out there using them for ball bats or stuffing the end in mud because they don't have pellets.
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I have no problem with Marty keeping his airguns where he wants. They’re his. More power to him!
I questioned it at first, but have realized the error of my ways.
As long as something isn't going to be destroyed or just messed up in some way then there's nothing to be said..
They're his to keep as safe queens and as safe queens they'll certainly be taken care of which is really the most important thing, there are plenty of shooters out there with a story to tell that need some appreciation so it's really not a big deal for a couple nice ones to remain unfired.
I have realized this now.
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Wow, I leave to work for a few hours, come back, & you guys are already planning my wake... ???
;) Not planning a wake just saying you have a real dilemma risk having us knuckle draggers getting your safe queens for cheap unless you take care of your health and out live all us schemers ;) ;D ;D
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My wife is a very savvy individual. She's been briefed IYKWIM. ;)
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My wife is a very savvy individual. She's been briefed IYKWIM. ;)
Awe shucks now you just dashed my dream of owning a pristine vintage .20 Blue Streak :( :( :(
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Don, actually she knew I had a few but never really kept tabs on how many. I recently completed work on a gun safe & placed the guns in there while she away visiting her mom. She asked if she could see the safe. I reluctantly open the door & there was that; I want to pay this guy a complement but he's really gone off the deep end. :)
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Our guns are scattered throughout the house. I don't think I have the courage to group them all together in one spot. I honestly don't have an actual count of them. I think I fear the depth of my madness being exposed if to no one else... to myself.
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I look at it this way Bill, I could theoretically come up with an average of shoes/year my wife has bought during our 39 years of marriage…I’ll be in the plus side for years to come. ;D
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Then you will be amazed to know that Betty Lou has exactly the same 6 or 7 pair of shoes she had when we got together 5 or 6 years ago. And does not own one single purse. She actually owns more guns than shoes.
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My wife is a very savvy individual. She's been briefed IYKWIM. ;)
Is that like the saying I've heard on GTA?: I hope when I die, my wife doesn't sell my airguns for what I told her I paid for them. :o
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Dave, I tried reading that forward, backwards, upside down & right side up...lost me. ;)
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If I die I really don't care if she just gives them away... that's up to her.
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In other words, the guy pays $1000.00 for an airgun. But told his wife it only cost $500.00 for that same airgun.
So when he dies, he hopes his wife doesn't believe the rifle is only worth $500.00.
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Congrats on the beautiful Sheridans Marty!
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In other words, the guy pays $1000.00 for an airgun. But told his wife it only cost $500.00 for that same airgun.
So when he dies, he hopes his wife doesn't believe the rifle is only worth $500.00.
& I'm not even blonde...go figure.
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Congrats on the beautiful Sheridans Marty!
Always good to hear from you Billy. Thanks!
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My wife is a very savvy individual. She's been briefed IYKWIM. ;)
Is that like the saying I've heard on GTA?: I hope when I die, my wife doesn't sell my airguns for what I told her I paid for them. :o
Something like this Dave...read discription. Not sure if the poor guy died or the other "D"?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sheridan-Blue-Streak-20cal-5mm-Pellet-Gun/173215231872?hash=item28546eaf80:g:qacAAOSwroZaqCgZ (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sheridan-Blue-Streak-20cal-5mm-Pellet-Gun/173215231872?hash=item28546eaf80:g:qacAAOSwroZaqCgZ)
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yep... 'zactly... by the description.
Now, that said it has been refinished and painted
I would rather have a worn brass 'Dan than one painted black.
I think her current price at $114 is about max but morbid curiosity made me put it on my Watch List.
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I could smell the paint from here. ;)
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Your up to 3900 views on this post! Lots of people like Sheridans!!
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or the same 10 people A LOT of times.
#Guilty
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There's another one out there that folks might be bidding on. Take a closer look at the roll pins. Someone got carried away & bent the tube. All ready at $300 with a day to go.
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Your up to 3900 views on this post! Lots of people like Sheridans!!
Sheridan’s are hard to beat so it’s no surprise they have a large following. I was hoping one of these folks has a late model Dan that can share what their William’s looks like. I am interested as to when this change occurred, if anyone knows please chime in. Thanks
See reply #74
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Here's another '75. Same year as mine with the same Williams...I think. Font is different than mine. Was there more than one manufacture? Pop-offs of today have round peaks on the letter's "W" & "M".
My WPS thrown in for comparison;
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The current Williams peep sight pop-offs being sold have a noticeable difference in their script when compared to my ’69 & ’75. Although I have never seen a script like that on the ’75 my gut kept telling it is a pop-off as well. I think this pretty much confirms it…top view of the ’69, my ’75, & the one in the first pic above…
...it is obviously a very nice gun but not what I was looking for, if anyone is interested in it send me a pm.
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With regards to the '75; I just happened to take her out for another look & tilted her at just the right angle & the entire stock has tiger stripping. Absolutely stunning. I have never seen a more beautiful pattern on walnut. This & there is no question she has never been shot, plus she already has a peep, factory or not. ;)
Sorry, I think I'll hang onto this one.
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CONGRATS!
Good choice me thinks... PM sent on the 79
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Thanks Scott...I don't know what I was thinking...
This pic doesn't do it justice. The tiger stripping is even more pronounced in person...light reflecting in all directions really illuminating the grain. A silk like appearance.
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Man has this been a slow day or what?
Guess I'll see what all the fuss is about on unionrdr... ;D
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Super sweet. Looking at your list of ol pumpers it looks like it found it's way 'home' finally. :D
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Super sweet. Looking at your list of ol pumpers it looks like it found it's way 'home' finally. :D
That Crosman 101 looks aweful lonely?
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Steve, when I posted up top I meant GTA in general was a slow (yesterday). Usually when I log in it takes several minutes to view new posts. I think everyone was taking a siesta. :)
Yup the 101 is lonely & she’ll probably stay that way unless a 108 falls in my lap & chances of that happening are slim to none. I really don’t need another obsession model. Benji’s & Dan’s keep me more than occupied as it is.