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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Rob M on December 23, 2017, 11:10:15 PM
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Well , ill let the pics explain.. Ive had a rough idea of where things are going.. still have quite a bit of work to do with kydex side panels , relieving the trigger area, not to mention sanding , painting , a shroud, possible Hpa drop block , and the list goes on.. Lotta delays along the way , and I'm betting it will be after the holidays before I get further.. I think the gun looks better in person , but I never claimed to be a photographer.
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don't know if it will all be chronological .. But its been a few weeks with shipping delays and blowing the belt on my mill
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putting a 875 hole through 4 inches was fun ..
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so was hogggin the trigger hole
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I guess at this point , you can see where this was going .. both barrel and airtube needed to make a complete pass through
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lots of sanding and breaking edges in my future..The trigger group needed a relief for future trigger linkage
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after this there was a third hole added ( .437) where my trigger piston assembly would be installed.
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the toiling continued.and the trigger needed to be sorted.
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this is the linkage rod, 1/8th brass which needed to be theaded to connect to the trigger piston
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Now I was cooking with gas, weaver rail completed ..the goal was to get the main reviever done , but I also needed to keep a square reference point which I decided would be the trigger guard area.. So that wont be reduced to the grip width till a later date
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naturally I needed some sort of trigger.. the trigger is riding in a slot on the piston I mentioned earlier that's threaded to the brass rod
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in this pic , I shorted the valve retention screw, and really need an rc ball bearing but got the trigger working pretty smooth.. Need to lube the channel in which the piston rides, and adjust the offset of the trigger blade.. Its never ending lol
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I guess when I started , I imagined this all happening in 1 day.. the amount of work on the main receiver alone is more than a project
So I started working rearward,.,. the rear tube plug was replaced with turned down 1 " aluminum , flats on both sides for later mounting locations for the kydex.. and the one main post that goes through the cap , up into the breech locking the entire rear end together making the stock super rigid
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it just keeps going , hope you like pics, this may be excessive.
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so next is the black kydex side panels , mexed with 1/16th aluminum plate guarding the linkage/... More fine tuning and adjustment on trigger.. sanding painting , god knows what else.. feel free to share thoughts.. probably be after new years before I have more poics
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Too much awesomeness in one Post!
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Looks good!
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Great work!!
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thanks guys , SO FAR, so good , lotta work left to do.. ill be adding pics as I go
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Very nice !!! I'll be following 8)
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Good stuff Mr Rob. don't count the time lol!!! David
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Wow! Just awesome!
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Awesome!!!!!
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Good stuff Mr Rob. don't count the time lol!!! David
thanks David , if I counted the time I could have bought an Indy lol.. otherwise , 99 bux so far.
as a side note for people messing with airmax guns , some tape on those tiny tiny trigger pins goes a long way while working , when they fall out , good luck finding them (-'
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Good stuff Mr Rob. don't count the time lol!!! David
thanks David , if I counted the time I could have bought an Indy lol.. otherwise , 99 bux so far.
as a side note for people messing with airmax guns , some tape on those tiny tiny trigger pins goes a long way while working , when they fall out , good luck finding them (-'
Time is relative, the real pleasure is a finished project of your own design that works, which I'm sure it will. Very nice and rewarding project.
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+1 on the tape for the trigger pins!
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minor update , now keep in mind this will be mostly covered by the kydex side panels.. so most likely all that will be seen is the bottom grill.. I'm certainly no sheet metal fabricator/ bender, so this took half the day
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the gun will gradually look more balanced as things are added ( I hope
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anyway, time to do some work on the main receiver, add a shroud /ldc .. and shape the kydex which is something ive never done..
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and one pic for scale , that's 12 inches on the tape.. figure shroud will be another 6
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Wow!
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Holy Moley, Rob!
That is outta this world!!! 8)
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Looking so good Rob!! Great work! You are an artist!
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thanks Ted, Wes and Chickie.. its really coming down to all cosmetics, I aim not to disappoint.. I'm just making stuff work , hoping the looks follow suit.. the kydex is a cool textured black , so more to come
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started cutting and mounting the kydex panels /./. they still need to be heat gunned and formed around the gun ..
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also did some chamfering around the trigger , much smoother/.
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anyway , I don't like the kydex as is , but maybe after its heat formed I will.. I figured having it mounted will create the most accurate results as far as forming goes.
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don't be too harsh , if you have an idea about slotting or making the kydex fancier , share ! after this the receiver will go off to poor mans powder coating .
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Nice! That looks great imo☺️
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that's wes, I just started hear forming a few corners, I suspect when It wraps the metal trigger housing it will look better.. the part I cant describe is how amazing this thing is on the shoulder.. LDC and paint coming soon
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Great to hear!
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nothing here, don't wanna spoil future pics.
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Very, very impressive, Rob!
Are you building this with a working drawing or design (missed it, if you said somewhere)?
Just wondering... I know some people that don't need one. Thanks... and that has a serious cool-factor to it 8)
Wyo
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Thanks Wyo.appreciate it and hoping to start paint when the sun comes up.. No , I didn't really have a plan , I just knew I wanted to bullpup the cm1 pistol.. Then , I stared at pictures of the RTI priest a couple nights, and decided I really wanted to machine the " manifold " from one block of aluminum as opposed to using 2-3 separate pieces. So I actually started the project twice since initially , I was content with multiple pieces..
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Amazing. I don't think I could drill a hole unless I drew a circle first ;D ... nice going, keep it up but don't rush... especially near the end.
Wyo
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lol, my logic was " it has an M16 grip , it will be fine " ;D
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Well, that appears to be working, lol
Wyo
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Wow that's very impressive.
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thanks Ken , more to come soon
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Looks like the perfect candidate for a 13ci bottled setup.
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Rhett, that's a strong possibility and the picture in my head was based on a HPA tank conversion
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Looks like the perfect candidate for a 13ci bottled setup.
Like this...
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It would look sweet! Very FX Impactish...
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VERY NICE cm1 !..looks 27 inches or so
Might do an lw barrel first, we shall see. painting and sanding and forming the kydex first .. now I also think I need a compact scope lol..But yes, an RTI priest was the inspiration ( ripoff of the FX design
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Thanks Rob,
Can't recall the length of that setup. . But it was under 30".
I ended up changing it back over to CO2 & sold it.
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Very cool Rhett , how hard was it shooting ?
minor update on the bullpup , I know less is more , but I didn't feel that way here
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felt like it had that cheesegrader industrial look already and this ties in
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The cp-1 Priest.
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The cp-1 Priest.
lol, exactly what the goal has been
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I saw it early on but wanted to be sure before I labelled it. ;D
I didn't even see that you already mentioned it above. Just saw this thread a bit ago and only glanced over the pics but it became evident to me early on what you were striving for. I think it's pretty cool.
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thanks man , its been the goal .. Not an exact Priest , but something inspired by it.. I stared at pics long before I got started.. parts are going to be painted soon , compact scope in the mail and shroud added this coming week
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first painted part was the buttpad.. figured if all went to h-ll I could remake that'
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all slow going now
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and reassembly in a little while ;D
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and we are nearing the end , the comact scope will be here Saturday , and the ldc will be made Saturday I think
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a profound irony of these projects, is you were so excited to get this far, and almost disappointed it will be done soon
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a profound irony of these projects, is you were so excited to get this far, and almost disappointed it will be done soon
From one addict to another, I know exactly what you mean ;D
The only cure for the post-project hangover is... another project!...haha
But let the paint dry first. Seriously, you did a great job and it looks terrific! thanks-
Wyo
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AGreed ! thanks WYO , some final pics when my scope comes from amazon this week,( and i make the ldc ) then ill be in the backyard with it
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looking forward to it 8)
Wyo
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Super work Rob, looking great!
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Where does the arrow go? :o
Just kidding. That thing looks awesome. Looking forward to the final results!
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thanks man , I probably could work some of those 6 inch plastic arrows in there, a side quiver etc. 8)
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Lookin' good!! 8)
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How did I miss this?!?
Nice work, Rob!! Any plans on selling these, or is this a "just for fun" project?
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How did I miss this?!?
Nice work, Rob!! Any plans on selling these, or is this a "just for fun" project?
thanks man , ID love to sell em if I could make em quicker, kinda like a kit.. But as for now , Its just a fun project.. Ill have pics with scope and shroud Tuesday night..
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and now things come to an end with a few pics.. If I decide to upgrade it to HPA , ill come back and add pics but for now , I like it as is as a small plinker.
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been a fun ride ;D
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Great finish Rob! Congrats on a great project finished! (for now!)
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thanks wes, id like to mount a tiny tiny regged tank , we will see. ;D
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Yes! This would be cool!
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Nice build , I just found this post also , so there wasn't so much suspense :D
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Awesome, just simply awesome, Rob! Nice lines, compact, and excellent workmanship. Well done 8)
I downloaded some of the pictures if you don't mind.
Wyo
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thanks Wes and James.. James, good time to check the post , probably reads like a book now (-=
Wyo , awesome.. I hope you build a bullpup one day , its a fun challenge, mostly trying to hide the functionality of the trigger linkage
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Turned out great!
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thank u!
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Yep a fantastic job on that baby for sure !!!
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thanks Wayne ;D
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Hi, Rob. I just found this thread. I guess I don't get out much. I really like the creative work that you've done with the machining. If you covered up the printing I'd never identify the gun as having been a CP-1. It would make a nice mantle piece!
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Rhett, that's a strong possibility and the picture in my head was based on a HPA tank conversion
Can't wait for it to evolve with a CF tank and become "Rob Mpact". Great project
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Hi, Rob. I just found this thread. I guess I don't get out much. I really like the creative work that you've done with the machining. If you covered up the printing I'd never identify the gun as having been a CP-1. It would make a nice mantle piece!
thank you , it is somewhat of a conversation piece..
bentong ,
if I get back to it , it will be hpa for sure.. stock velocities are somewhat limiting.thx