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Airguns by Make and Model => Vintage Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: Yng@hrt on December 20, 2017, 10:03:59 AM
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Trying to keep tabs on these models with respect to changes is getting more & more confusing by the minute. Here are 4 examples, 3 silvers, 2 are mine, 1 I lifted from eBay, & 1 blued owned by Terry (dv8eod).
The most confusing to me is Terry’s although I re-read Billy’s post from another thread & the reason his looks so different is because his is the Crosman HB Sheridan frame; that mystery solved. The other mystery is Terry’s H9A’s serial number. If you look at his & the one from eBay (both Bloomfield made) they are both 9 digit numbers but placed on opposite sides of the tube. The other distinct difference between Terry’s & the other 3 is the Warning stamp at the muzzle end. When did this change take place?
As for mine, I’m not quite sure what to make of the H9’s serial number. According to Billy production began in ’83 although if I go off of Crosman’s dates of manufacture it dates to ’73. My question is; can these models go off of Crosman’s date of manufacture? If not is there a method for dating these models?
Last, if anyone comes across this thread & you have one of these models please post pix similar to the ones below.
Thanks.
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Just chiming in hoping to learn about these myself.
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We've run into this same hodgepodge and inconsistency of dating, labeling and parts with Benjamin-Sheridan 397Ps and 392Ps in guns just after Crosman bought out Benjamin/Sheridan in the early 90s up until these models morphed into the current versions. Seems like Crosman was building these "transition" 397Ps and 392Ps at times, with old Benjamin/Sheridan inventory on a sporadic basis, mixing in some of their own parts as they went.
As for serial number dating for the old Benjamin-made Benjamins via Crosmans supplied data, it's been sometimes iffy for me. Not sure how much of the Benjamin-made Benjamin data managed to get saved when Crosman bought out Benjamin.
Here's my E. Bloomfield H9A in 177, so definitely a Crosman era H9A, serial number N00764919
(https://s31.postimg.org/czwjjxphn/P1050199.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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The one nickle is 95 the blue is 06. The R marked refurb is an early model that's still indicating the transition to a new company. Hence the limited warning and the lack of dating w/ the serial #. It's very similar to the Benji 39x rifles in the early 90's transitioning from the early 39xP w/ a serial number with no dating and minimal warning. To a 392PA w/ the P trigger group still soldered valve more warning and a date. To 39xpa w/ the cartridge and P style trigger more warning and dating. To 39xPA w/ trigger house w/more warning and dating. These H/H9A are the counterpart to the 39xP/39xPA rifles.
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One thing that seems to be confusing you is the model designation. The model H, or H-Series was introduced in 1982. The model H9, or H9-Series, was introduced in 1991. All the Benjamin/Sheridan models had design changes in 1991 and the "9" was added to the model designation. The new models also started with a new serial number range having the same 6-digit format of previous models, which causes some confusion. The serial number format was changed in 1992.
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One thing that seems to be confusing you is the model designation. The model H, or H-Series was introduced in 1982. The model H9, or H9-Series, was introduced in 1991. All the Benjamin/Sheridan models had design changes in 1991 and the "9" was added to the model designation. The new models also started with a new serial number range having the same 6-digit format of previous models, which causes some confusion. The serial number format was changed in 1992.
So is my H9 a '91?
Thanks
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Hey, what about the original Racine made H series pistols ?
You do know there's the model H pistols, then the crosman made H9 pistols right ?
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Hey, what about the original Racine made H series pistols ?
You do know there's the model H pistols, then the crosman made H9 pistols right ?
No these did not jump from "H" pistols to Crosman made "H9" pistols. To summarize what Billy posted who is pretty much an authority;
- The H (HB) was introduced by Sheridan in '82 & ran thru '90. Mostly all blk with a few customs in nickel.
- In '90 the Sheridan E was offered in nickel.
- In '91 Benjamin & Sheridan consolidated & offered the H9 which ran thru '93.
- It wasn't until '94 that Crosman entered the picture & offered the H9A.
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Tuning in........
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I honestly believe the pistols were attempt at "Jumping the Shark".
Those of us members old enough to remember the "Happy Days" sit-com can relate to what it means...
Jumping the Shark is the moment when an established long-running series changes in a significant manner in an attempt to stay fresh. Ironically, that moment makes the viewers realize that the show's finally run out of ideas. It's reached its peak, it'll never be the same again, and from now on it's all downhill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark)
BUT I will say I am on the search for an "H" pumper or even an "E" pistol to match my "F" rifle.
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One thing that seems to be confusing you is the model designation. The model H, or H-Series was introduced in 1982. The model H9, or H9-Series, was introduced in 1991. All the Benjamin/Sheridan models had design changes in 1991 and the "9" was added to the model designation. The new models also started with a new serial number range having the same 6-digit format of previous models, which causes some confusion. The serial number format was changed in 1992.
So is my H9 a '91?
Thanks
I do not have enough information on pistols to pinpoint the date. From my study of the C9-Series rifles, the lowest sn noted to date is 103xxx. It is a 1991 as determined from its design features.
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Thank you Jake. At least for now I know my H9 is a '91 thru '93.
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Here are 3 more. An H9 like mine with the "R" in front of the serial number (black), same stamp throughout, An H9A identical to Terry's, & an H9A like mine (black).
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I can explain the serial numbers.
Starting in 1991, the Benjamin rifles received "Benjamin" model numbers (397, 392), while the Sheridan rifles and the Benjamin Sheridan pistols received "Sheridan" model numbers (C9, E9, F9, H9). The Benjamin rifles received Benjamin style serial numbers, which is a 6 digit numerical cerial number with a single letter prefix. While everything else with a Sheridan style model number also initially received a Sheridan style serial number, which was a six digit numerical serial number with no letter prefix,but the serial numbers started with 100001, so effectively they really had a five digit serial number at the 1 at the beginning is meaningless. They ran this way up to around 120000 or 130000, can't remember off the top of my head. Then they switched all models over to receive a Benjamin style serial number with a letter prefix. Each model got it's own letter. The H9 pistols got an R prefix. The Sheridan rifles got a W and the E9 pistols got a zero for some reason. The Benjamin rifle prefixes changed over time. I can explain more in detail later. I'm tired of typing on my phone and am tired in general. To be continued.
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Hey, what about the original Racine made H series pistols ?
You do know there's the model H pistols, then the crosman made H9 pistols right ?
No these did not jump from "H" pistols to Crosman made "H9" pistols. To summarize what Billy posted who is pretty much an authority;
- The H (HB) was introduced by Sheridan in '82 & ran thru '90. Mostly all blk with a few customs in nickel.
- In '90 the Sheridan E was offered in nickel.
- In '91 Benjamin & Sheridan consolidated & offered the H9 which ran thru '93.
- It wasn't until '94 that Crosman entered the picture & offered the H9A.
I was just wondering why you were mostly focusing on the H9 pistols, I didn't exactly realize that the H9 pistols weren't made in the crosman factory though so thanks for that info.
The forearm of the H9 does seem like a slightly better design than that of the early Hb.
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Quite possibly the best Sheridan H on the planet...
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Found an H9 in my pile-o-airgun-pistols, and then couldn't find any info on this model until I found this thread. Thanks to all for 'unlocking the mystery'. Mine is .20 cal, serial # 125644, so likely an early 1990's version by Benjamin. Someone took he finish off, but the brass actually looks pretty good regardless. Not a collector specimen, but probably a reasonably good shooter. Just gotta get it to pump and hold air first, though.
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Since I last posted on this thread I too have acquired an H... mine is a H9A in pretty nice shape if I do say so myself. Shoots hard and straight out to 20 yards on 6 pumps.
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Real nice guns fellas!
Scott...you've been hold out bud! 8)
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Not us he's holding out on.... he only gets them out when Hoosier Momma ain't home.
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You got that right! ;) ;D
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I think we all wear the pants in the house when momma's away.
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I think we all wear the pants in the house when momma's away.
Not so sure... Scott has been known to play "dress up" when momma is away. ;)
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I wouldn’t mind finding a pistol match for my 1998 Benjamin Sheridan rifle in polished nickel but they seem crazy expensive.
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I wouldn’t mind finding a pistol match for my 1998 Benjamin Sheridan rifle in polished nickel but they seem crazy expensive.
It seems like gun prices are beginning to make a come back. All types of airguns are selling at above avg prices. If you don't have one of these you are missing out. The quality is outstanding.
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Seeing this topic made me go get my H9A .177 out and shoot it. I know I haven’t shot it in 5 years but it was dead on. Shot a 5 pellet group the size of my pinky nail at 19yrds. Unfortunately I was reminded why I don’t shoot it. I don’t like pumping. I bought it new because I always wanted one as a kid but was stuck with the Crosman plastic pump pistol because it was cheaper and Kmart had them. Should probably sell it to someone who will shoot it.
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I think we all wear the pants in the house when momma's away.
Not so sure... Scott has been known to play "dress up" when momma is away. ;)
You been peekin?
;D ;)
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Seeing this topic made me go get my H9A .177 out and shoot it. I know I haven’t shot it in 5 years but it was dead on. Shot a 5 pellet group the size of my pinky nail at 19yrds. Unfortunately I was reminded why I don’t shoot it. I don’t like pumping. I bought it new because I always wanted one as a kid but was stuck with the Crosman plastic pump pistol because it was cheaper and Kmart had them. Should probably sell it to someone who will shoot it.
I think pumping a rifle is a bit better than a pistol. CO2 for a pistol does make sense.
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Tell that to all the 13XX owners...
Just Sayin. ::)
(https://i.chzbgr.com/full/5275829504/h56EDDC85/)
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Most 13XX get converted to carbine.
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Most 13XX get converted to carbine.
:o :o :o :o :o :o Oh Really ? I guess I did it All Wrong Then. ;D
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I am considering selling my H9A .177. What is it worth? I bought it new in the 90's and don't even remember what I paid. It might have 200 pellets through it. I see them on ebay going for all kind of different amounts. I just want to price it right. Don't want to give it away but I am also not looking to hit a home run. Have to eliminate some of the guns I don't shoot.
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I am considering selling my H9A .177. What is it worth? I bought it new in the 90's and don't even remember what I paid. It might have 200 pellets through it. I see them on ebay going for all kind of different amounts. I just want to price it right. Don't want to give it away but I am also not looking to hit a home run. Have to eliminate some of the guns I don't shoot.
Can you post a photo of your gun & do you have the box & docs your gun came with?
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I might have the owners manual. No box.(http://)
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Very nice gun!
Currently there are two for sale in the bay with all the bells & whistles. These in my estimation are way over priced, especially the 2nd one, it has scuff marks on the metal which kills the entire package. The other reason it is obvious they are overpriced is because they have been listed several times. I think $350 is the most I would pay for the first one.
A nickel H9 with all the bells & whistles would fetch those prices, maybe more in today’s market, but not a blued model.
Hope this helps.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Benjamin-Sheridan-H9A-Pump-Pellet-Pistol-NEW-in-Box-COLLECTOR-QUALITY/173550726701?hash=item28686dee2d:g:TlgAAOSwYuNbTfAV (https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Benjamin-Sheridan-H9A-Pump-Pellet-Pistol-NEW-in-Box-COLLECTOR-QUALITY/173550726701?hash=item28686dee2d:g:TlgAAOSwYuNbTfAV)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1991-Benjamin-Sheridan-H9-Pump-Pellet-Pistol-NEW-in-Box-COLLECTOR-QUALITY/183448762674?hash=item2ab665f932:g:tqYAAOSwOqBbTe6J (https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1991-Benjamin-Sheridan-H9-Pump-Pellet-Pistol-NEW-in-Box-COLLECTOR-QUALITY/183448762674?hash=item2ab665f932:g:tqYAAOSwOqBbTe6J)
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That is an eBay seller swinging for the fence.
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I think I paid $75 for mine...
Just saying. ::)
No box, no manual... just a fine shooting H9A .177 in excellent condition.
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^^^That is a rarity & w/o a doubt the absolute low end of the spectrum for something that nice. Do you mind me asking where you bought it?
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Yeah, I think these guns are worth a little more than a Chinese co2 pistol. But $400+ seems extreme.
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Ahem... GTA Classifieds... Where else?
I got a Champagne taste and a Beer wallet.
LOL
*EDIT* I was wrong on the price...
I just researched the archives...
It was $70 and went uncalled for before me.
I would have snagged up the C9A....but I already had a C9 and funds were low.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=138813.msg1395094#msg1395094 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=138813.msg1395094#msg1395094)
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^^^learn me you sikret fer sqewzing water from them rocks. ;D
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^^^learn me you sikret fer sqewzing water from them rocks. ;D
That's how I roll....
I won't buy it if it don't fit in the wallet, under the radar of my "Financial Adviser", "Activities Coordinator", "Fashion Consultant".... AKA: SWMBO
;)
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^^^learn me you sikret fer sqewzing water from them rocks. ;D
That's how I roll....
I won't buy it if it don't fit in the wallet, under the radar of my "Financial Adviser", "Activities Coordinator", "Fashion Consultant".... AKA: SWMBO
;)
...& where are we eating tonight dear...I've seen them fancy diners you'all eat over at the stuff your face gate... ;D ;)
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Touche'
But never in the "What'cha eatin" thread is "what did that meal cost?"
I am just as frugal there. ;)
Even my week long feasts at the 5-Star resorts are cheap... ;D
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I've always found that the best way to a great deal is to wait until it comes to you as opposed to pursuing it.
Like I've said before, I've never paid more than $250 for an air gun. Some people have never paid less than $250 for one. It is what it is.
Just to be fair in my statement.... I have traded a couple guns for a gun as in the case of the SynRod and in turn swapped out for the Sumatra.
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Marty....
You have an amazing collection... that goes without saying. Then again, you have a somewhat different objective.
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Thanks Bill & I totally understand both sides. It’s been said many times; there is something about a not so perfect gun that lures gun enthusiasts. Its nicks, rub marks, & quirks that leads ones imagination to run wild as to the history of the gun. As strange as this might sound, my go to gun for most of my pesting is my first Dan. Remember that one…that not so perfect silver I found at a gun on the cheap & buffed out (looking back I can’t believe I did that). Love that gun.
BTW...great news on your doctors visit! ;)
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I miss the H9's I use to have. Great little guns. I can't recall who I sold the 2 too. I know I sold one and traded the other. The one I bought was from CL and for 60 I believe. The other was from AA I think 100 shipped. Both were blues versions.
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^^^I'll bet you do miss them Rob. I really like mine. I'll tell you what though, this little guy is my new favorite short gun. Easy to pump, better feel, & accurate as all get out.
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Yea the 13x's are super nice. Had a few 132's never got my hand on the .177 or the BB version. Much easier to work on and worlds easier to pump. Don't have to worry about the pinch like on the H9's, lol. I did like the sturdiness of the H9 though. They have that feel like you could beat someone with it and wouldn't even scratch or break it.
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Yes, adding to an old thread. Posting a pic with the serial number:
Serial#599702835
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Very nice one Kevin!
What caliber?
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So, I believe my H9 to be a 1991 year model. Marked Benjamin-Sheridan , Racine WI. Cal. .177. S/N 120038
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Oooohhhh a Silver!
That is a "keeper."!
.. Unless you want to sell it.
Then it will be MY "keeper".
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Oooohhhh a Silver!
That is a "keeper."!
.. Unless you want to sell it.
Then it will be MY "keeper".
It sure is a beauty.
I prefer black for a shooter when I have the option ( the umarex peacemaker was the only time I didn't) , but the shiny stuff definitely looks nice.
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Very nice one Kevin!
What caliber?
.20 caliber. It sat for more MANY years and was not working. I did an alcohol flush and oiled it and it seems to be working, however I need to chrono it to see how well.
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Adding to the mystery..picked up this mint .20 cal a month or so ago. Literally seems like it had hardly been shot. Serial #500705458
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Nice one Mike!
The resurection of this thread got me shooting mine again, darn fun and accurate at 5 pumps!
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Adding to the mystery..picked up this mint .20 cal a month or so ago. Literally seems like it had hardly been shot. Serial #500705458
A Racine gun based on the serial number right ?
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Nice one Mike!
The resurection of this thread got me shooting mine again, darn fun and accurate at 5 pumps!
I've been shooting mine a lot lately.
I could never shoot the 1377 very well at all, but the h9a felt right the first time I handled it.
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Adding to the mystery..picked up this mint .20 cal a month or so ago. Literally seems like it had hardly been shot. Serial #500705458
A Racine gun based on the serial number right ?
No Sir! it is a Bloomfield NY gun. Man this thing is hard to pump, but I understand it is quite common. That and it being pretty much brand new. I know that as I actually chaffed a little paint under the pump arm from pumping. Was not there when I first got it.
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Adding to the mystery..picked up this mint .20 cal a month or so ago. Literally seems like it had hardly been shot. Serial #500705458
A Racine gun based on the serial number right ?
No Sir! it is a Bloomfield NY gun. Man this thing is hard to pump, but I understand it is quite common. That and it being pretty much brand new. I know that as I actually chaffed a little paint under the pump arm from pumping. Was not there when I first got it.
It definately looked like a boomfield example to me, but the serial number threw me.
For some reason I read 5007, obviously may of 2000.
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Adding to the mystery..picked up this mint .20 cal a month or so ago. Literally seems like it had hardly been shot. Serial #500705458
A Racine gun based on the serial number right ?
No Sir! it is a Bloomfield NY gun. Man this thing is hard to pump, but I understand it is quite common. That and it being pretty much brand new. I know that as I actually chaffed a little paint under the pump arm from pumping. Was not there when I first got it.
It definately looked like a boomfield example to me, but the serial number threw me.
For some reason I read 5007, obviously may of 2000.
Ah, thanks for that, I wasn't sure of the year.
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Hey, what about the original Racine made H series pistols ?
You do know there's the model H pistols, then the crosman made H9 pistols right ?
No these did not jump from "H" pistols to Crosman made "H9" pistols. To summarize what Billy posted who is pretty much an authority;
- The H (HB) was introduced by Sheridan in '82 & ran thru '90. Mostly all blk with a few customs in nickel.
- In '90 the Sheridan E was offered in nickel.
- In '91 Benjamin & Sheridan consolidated & offered the H9 which ran thru '93.
- It wasn't until '94 that Crosman entered the picture & offered the H9A.
So I ran across this .20 cal "H9" and purchased it. The serial number is on the left side of the gun and starts N94, so I'm figuring November 1994 for a manufacture date. My confusion surrounds the third & forth bullet points indicating "H9" was made thru 93 and the H9A started in 94. Also, it seems the .20 caliber is tougher find over the 177 & 22 calibers. Am I wrong?
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Hey, what about the original Racine made H series pistols ?
You do know there's the model H pistols, then the crosman made H9 pistols right ?
No these did not jump from "H" pistols to Crosman made "H9" pistols. To summarize what Billy posted who is pretty much an authority;
- The H (HB) was introduced by Sheridan in '82 & ran thru '90. Mostly all blk with a few customs in nickel.
- In '90 the Sheridan E was offered in nickel.
- In '91 Benjamin & Sheridan consolidated & offered the H9 which ran thru '93.
- It wasn't until '94 that Crosman entered the picture & offered the H9A.
So I ran across this .20 cal "H9" and purchased it. The serial number is on the left side of the gun and starts N94, so I'm figuring November 1994 for a manufacture date. My confusion surrounds the third & forth bullet points indicating "H9" was made thru 93 and the H9A started in 94. Also, it seems the .20 caliber is tougher find over the 177 & 22 calibers. Am I wrong?
Sadly Marty was apparently banned, he seemed to be a great guy so I have no clue what he did or anything though.
This is a Racine made pistol right ?
Maybe the 1994 H9a introduction year is true, but just barely and it didn't start till December?
That is If these letter prefixes to signify the month like I for some reassumed.
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Heres my H9A .22, dated D98 which is odd because there was a 398 dated H9A posted earlier in this thread.
(https://i.postimg.cc/XNp1RBKn/20211110-184532.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bdfRbJF5)
I wonder when exactly the change was made from Benjamin style serial numbers to the 3 digit Crosman serial numbers.
And am I wrong in thinking that the letter was for the month?
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Hey, what about the original Racine made H series pistols ?
You do know there's the model H pistols, then the crosman made H9 pistols right ?
No these did not jump from "H" pistols to Crosman made "H9" pistols. To summarize what Billy posted who is pretty much an authority;
- The H (HB) was introduced by Sheridan in '82 & ran thru '90. Mostly all blk with a few customs in nickel.
- In '90 the Sheridan E was offered in nickel.
- In '91 Benjamin & Sheridan consolidated & offered the H9 which ran thru '93.
- It wasn't until '94 that Crosman entered the picture & offered the H9A.
So I ran across this .20 cal "H9" and purchased it. The serial number is on the left side of the gun and starts N94, so I'm figuring November 1994 for a manufacture date. My confusion surrounds the third & forth bullet points indicating "H9" was made thru 93 and the H9A started in 94. Also, it seems the .20 caliber is tougher find over the 177 & 22 calibers. Am I wrong?
Sadly Marty was apparently banned, he seemed to be a great guy so I have no clue what he did or anything though.
This is a Racine made pistol right ?
Maybe the 1994 H9a introduction year is true, but just barely and it didn't start till December?
That is If these letter prefixes to signify the month like I for some reassumed.
Nope, not Racine. On the right side of the gun its imprinted Benjamin Sheridan Bloomfield N.Y. & zip code. I also have a 1996 H9A HB17 where the "Benjamin Sheridan" marking is on the left side of the pump tube under all the other printing.
Thanks for responding.
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Hey, what about the original Racine made H series pistols ?
You do know there's the model H pistols, then the crosman made H9 pistols right ?
No these did not jump from "H" pistols to Crosman made "H9" pistols. To summarize what Billy posted who is pretty much an authority;
- The H (HB) was introduced by Sheridan in '82 & ran thru '90. Mostly all blk with a few customs in nickel.
- In '90 the Sheridan E was offered in nickel.
- In '91 Benjamin & Sheridan consolidated & offered the H9 which ran thru '93.
- It wasn't until '94 that Crosman entered the picture & offered the H9A.
So I ran across this .20 cal "H9" and purchased it. The serial number is on the left side of the gun and starts N94, so I'm figuring November 1994 for a manufacture date. My confusion surrounds the third & forth bullet points indicating "H9" was made thru 93 and the H9A started in 94. Also, it seems the .20 caliber is tougher find over the 177 & 22 calibers. Am I wrong?
Sadly Marty was apparently banned, he seemed to be a great guy so I have no clue what he did or anything though.
This is a Racine made pistol right ?
Maybe the 1994 H9a introduction year is true, but just barely and it didn't start till December?
That is If these letter prefixes to signify the month like I for some reassumed.
Nope, not Racine. On the right side of the gun its imprinted Benjamin Sheridan Bloomfield N.Y. & zip code. I also have a 1996 H9A HB17 where the "Benjamin Sheridan" marking is on the left side of the pump tube under all the other printing.
Thanks for responding.
Now, looking at past sales on the _Bay site, I located a couple of "H9" labeled Benjamin Sheridan which were serial numbered as late as Sept. 1995. The one listed for the Sept. 95 was issued out of E Bloomfield N.Y. Maybe Crosman was using up pump tubes already imprinted?
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So beating a dead horse here...... This "H9" was on the Bay. The Serial Number started 594 (May 1994) but is marked Benjamin Sheridan Racine WI.
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Just an FYI...
Yng@hrt (Marty) wasn't banned, he left on his own accord deleting many of his informative post before leaving.
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Just an FYI...
Yng@hrt (Marty) wasn't banned, he left on his own accord deleting many of his informative post before leaving.
That's a shame.
Someone told me he was banned for some reason.
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Hey, what about the original Racine made H series pistols ?
You do know there's the model H pistols, then the crosman made H9 pistols right ?
No these did not jump from "H" pistols to Crosman made "H9" pistols. To summarize what Billy posted who is pretty much an authority;
- The H (HB) was introduced by Sheridan in '82 & ran thru '90. Mostly all blk with a few customs in nickel.
- In '90 the Sheridan E was offered in nickel.
- In '91 Benjamin & Sheridan consolidated & offered the H9 which ran thru '93.
- It wasn't until '94 that Crosman entered the picture & offered the H9A.
So I ran across this .20 cal "H9" and purchased it. The serial number is on the left side of the gun and starts N94, so I'm figuring November 1994 for a manufacture date. My confusion surrounds the third & forth bullet points indicating "H9" was made thru 93 and the H9A started in 94. Also, it seems the .20 caliber is tougher find over the 177 & 22 calibers. Am I wrong?
Sadly Marty was apparently banned, he seemed to be a great guy so I have no clue what he did or anything though.
This is a Racine made pistol right ?
Maybe the 1994 H9a introduction year is true, but just barely and it didn't start till December?
That is If these letter prefixes to signify the month like I for some reassumed.
Nope, not Racine. On the right side of the gun its imprinted Benjamin Sheridan Bloomfield N.Y. & zip code. I also have a 1996 H9A HB17 where the "Benjamin Sheridan" marking is on the left side of the pump tube under all the other printing.
Thanks for responding.
I'm sure the box is original to the gun but obviously it depicts a pistol with the Racine adress on it which is why I assumed it was a Racine pistol.
The only explanation would be Crosman as always using up left over parts as they've pretty much always been known to do.
Sometimes I wonder by even bother trying to date a Crosman gun, I've had at least 3 Crosman guns so far that didn't match up to information.
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Just an FYI...
Yng@hrt (Marty) wasn't banned, he left on his own accord deleting many of his informative post before leaving.
That's a shame.
Someone told me he was banned for some reason.
Man that is no good, he had a lot of great info. Any idea why he departed??
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Nothing to see here... let's move along. ;)
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Let's see some more pictures !
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Let's see some more pictures !
Recently added to my Benjamin Sheridan collection. :D
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Ho...Nice! Want a shiny one like that! ;D
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Here's what I believe is a first year, 1982 production gun.
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Factory polished brass H9
Crosman built gun... if it were not for the box, I don't know how you can tell these apart from a regular gun that someone may have stripped.
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^KEEPER^
I would rather have that than a nickel version!
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I would rather have that than a nickel version!
Brass and nickel side by side
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Oh now that is just airgun porn right there!!!
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Oh now that is just airgun porn right there!!!
Yes it is! interesting how the top of the trigger guard is squared off on the brass version
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I know this is an old thread, but I may as well jump into it.
Pictures of my Sheridan HB purchased in Oct. 1990. I have the original box, manual, and receipt.
I also have two rocker Sheridan Blue Streaks.
Love the Sheridans
Darrin
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I still don't have a H, H9, or H9A.
I was waiting and looking to see a deal when they were discontinued. This is one that being cheap did not pay off. Yet? ???
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I still don't have a H, H9, or H9A.
I was waiting and looking to see a deal when they were discontinued. This is one that being cheap did not pay off. Yet? ???
Miracles can happen, but I expect that a deal will be impossible to find over the internet at least.
You could get lucky at a garage sale flea market pawn shop or antique mall...ect , but you'd have to be in the right place at the right time.
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I still don't have a H, H9, or H9A.
I was waiting and looking to see a deal when they were discontinued. This is one that being cheap did not pay off. Yet? ???
Miracles can happen, but I expect that a deal will be impossible to find over the internet at least.
You could get lucky at a garage sale flea market pawn shop or antique mall...ect , but you'd have to be in the right place at the right time.
I am not holding my breath on finding a deal on a new one anymore. ;)
In fact I am not actively looking for airguns like I did in the past, so that probably makes it less likely. The H appeals to me most of the three, I do like my Sheridan .20s and the older guns better.
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I bought this Benjamin / Sheridan .22 caliber pneumatic pistol when I was in college sometime between 1991 and 1994. I started a family soon after so I kept it out of the way and eventually forgot about it when life got hectic. I have read through this posts and there is reference to collectors quality, but no mention of a proper age to qualify as such. I am planning to take my nephews shooting with this unless I should consider it something special to only shoot occasionally. I wouldnt be surprised if it hasnt been fired in 20+ years.
The serial number is R014903 it is .22 caliber.
Thoughts?
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It's a shooter for sure, they made plenty of them.
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I bought this Benjamin / Sheridan .22 caliber pneumatic pistol when I was in college sometime between 1991 and 1994. I started a family soon after so I kept it out of the way and eventually forgot about it when life got hectic. I have read through this posts and there is reference to collectors quality, but no mention of a proper age to qualify as such. I am planning to take my nephews shooting with this unless I should consider it something special to only shoot occasionally. I wouldnt be surprised if it hasnt been fired in 20+ years.
The serial number is R014903 it is .22 caliber.
Thoughts?
Hello! and wow, that's quite a cool thing to find after 20+ years. Yes, the H9 pistols have really escallated in price lately. In my opionion, you have pretty much the most desirable version of the Benjamin and sheridan pistols. The only features that would make it more desirable would be if it was the nickel plated version and perhaps if it was .20 cal - though that may be becoming a deterrent now as .20 cal continues to recede into obscurity and with it, pellet availability.
So, if you were so inclined, you could probably sell your pistol and get several hundred for it. The gun is something kind of special, However, If it was me, I'd keep it and enjoy it, especially since you have a nephew that might appreciate shooting it with you. shooting it is not going to damage it at all and in fact it is better to keep these guns oiled and shooting.
Your gun dates to 1992. In 1991, Benjamin revamped all of the benjamin and sheridan rifle and pistol models. The rifles were kept distinctly separate (though they shared many of the same parts), but the benjamin and sheridan pistols were merged which is why the H9 series pistols were always stamped as Benjamin-Sheridan, while the rifles were at least initially kept as either Benjamin or Sheridan. The H9 pistols were in my opinion superior in design and execution to both preceeding benjamin (232/237) and sheridan (H) pump pistols. The H9 pistols were more substantial, had all wood furniture and were just a step above in quality and refinement over the older pistol models. In 1994 Crosman took over production and the H9 soon became changed to the H9A and quality slowly declined until production of the pistols was discontinued sometime in the 2000s.
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Oh now that is just airgun porn right there!!!
Yes it is! interesting how the top of the trigger guard is squared off on the brass version
I know the specific post that I'm replying to is old and the OP may not see it but clearly people reference these older threads so I'll respond anyway.
The reason the pistol with the black paint removed has a different trigger guard is because that one is an H9A made by Crosman. The nickel pistol is an H9 made in racine. I'm not sure exactly when Crosman changed the pistol frame, but if you see a pump pistol with that frame/guard, you know it's a Crosman gun.
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Thank you for your reply @ Flint. Based on your reply I will have fun shooting this with my nephews and hopefully one day with the any grands that I may have! TheTigerWoodsOfFishing!
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So beating a dead horse here...... This "H9" was on the Bay. The Serial Number started 594 (May 1994) but is marked Benjamin Sheridan Racine WI.
So, may have answered my own question here with it being a NOS replacement barrel & housing. Baker Airguns recently advertised having some 13 of these nickel .20 cal H9 Benjamin Sheridan made in Racine Wi barrel & pump tube housings. Listing them as "NOS". I ended up picking up 5 of the ones for sale. All ended up being dated "N95" and then the rest of the serial number. Made in the 91-93ish time period due to the markings and later stamped after the move from Racine in Nov. 1995. The marked serial numbers I have are within 21 numbers of each other from the lowest to highest with a couple of the units being within two S/N's of each other. Fun. :D
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Will you share an average price fir the 5 that you picked up if you dont mind? Thanks!
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Will you share an average price fir the 5 that you picked up if you dont mind? Thanks!
$48 dollars...... Purchase price, shipping and state tax.
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That is cheap. I dont’t recall, but i was a broke college kid when i purchased mine back around ‘92 so i cant imagine that i spent more than $30 or $40 back then. Thanks
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That is cheap. I dont’t recall, but i was a broke college kid when i purchased mine back around ‘92 so i cant imagine that i spent more than $30 or $40 back then. Thanks
Just to be clear. What AirJunkie purchased were NOT complete pistols. they were just the barrel and pump tube. Just parts. Complete functional pistols are selling for 3+hundred right know (or at least that's what I've seen within the last year or so).
I don't remember what the pistols were selling for in 1992, but is should have been much more than $40. I got a nickel benjamin 397P for Christmas in 1992 and am pretty sure that they were over $100, but less than $200. I think I actually have a dealer price sheet somewhere. I'll have to dig it out.
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Interesting. I would live to track down one of those 397s as i loved them way back then.
I have also gotten back into actual firearms and as i love the classic look i purchased myself a ruger mini-14. I am on the search for a nice wood stock for it.
Guess i am a retro style guy i even drive a dodge challenger. 🤓
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Resurrecting this old thread, since I just traded some airguns for this Sheridan H. I was told that it didnt work, but it shoots just fine! Im a bit confused about the plastic grips with the wood pump handle... The grips are missing the "S", and the pump handle wants to open unless I give it a pump or 2- that is annoying & I want to fix this loose pump lever.
Its a first year H (Sheridan, made in Racine Wi.) .20cal
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I don't know why they did it that way, but that's just how they did it.
The E co2 pistol came first and used these grips, it's obvious why they'd use walnut for the pump handle but I'm guessing they just didn't want to bother creating a jig for walnut grips when they've already got these checkered ABS grips that work.
I'm also guessing that a modified mold from the Benjamin 24x series pump pistols was used for the original E grips which was probably more cost effective than just going with Walnut grips for the Sheridan pistols in the 1st place.
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Here's where I found a little info about my H9...its serial number is R022804, made in 1973 in Racine, stamped on the barrel . I've had this puppy since a year after it came out, a buddy of mine gave me the gun for a small amount of cash he needed at the time, I picked up an original Sheridan pistol shoulder stock off eBay for and insanely cheep price...Still shoots dead on