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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Marc In Iowa on December 04, 2017, 12:57:14 PM
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Thanks to Walmart's crazy pricing fluctuations recently ($172 during Black Friday weekend) I now own both rifles. So, how different are these rifles?
The Urban is synthetic stock only and is both shorter in barrel and in air tube (therefore lighter). It's also available only in 22 caliber.
The Coyote is available in 177 & 22 but in wood stock only. The wood stock is nice but I really like the way the Urban synthetic stock holds and grips.
The type of barrel, action and magazine design appears to be identical between both rifles. Both are very quiet.
Updated:
Urban:
- Weight: 6.70 lbs
- Length 39.5"
... 15.0" breech to barrel end
Coyote:
- Weight: 7.85 lbs (real 8.1)
- Length: 42.9’’
- Trigger Pull: 2.2 lbs
- Barrel Length: 24.5 in (w/ldc)
... 18.5" breech to barrel end
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My Coyote is supposed to come with a synthetic stock. It seems to be stuck in customs and won’t be delivered today as originally scheduled... Fedex explained that customs has requested some additional paperwork from Aceros de Hispania.... Hopefully it stays under 4 and they don’t charge any additional fees
Find myself almost in the same situation as you Marc. I also couldn’t resist the Walmart blowout special on the urban and grabbed one. The urban shows that it is out for delivery. We”ll see if it’s delivered in a rented panel truck or if the lady in the golf cart pulling a trailer brings it to the house....
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Thanks for the comparison, Marc. ;D
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Wow, the Urban looks sweet beside the Coyote. Love the pistol grip stock.
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The Urban stock seems very, very ergonomic and the complete package as short as it is, is very attractive with nice proportions.
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Yeah, I have a Urban coming as well from Walmart. Great deal on a PCP couldn't pass it up. I'm excited to get it.
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The Urban stock seems very, very ergonomic and the complete package as short as it is, is very attractive with nice proportions.
I don't like plastic stocks in general, and the one on the Urban looks particularly ugly to me. Feel however, is really good. One of those rifles I can look at a target, close my eyes, shoulder it and it's very close to being on target. It's no HS Precision stock, but it doesn't feel cheap either. I did use a utility knife blade to remove the sharp edge at the parting line, but that was a 5 minute operation. The stippling feels great too.
Not sure what I'll do with my 2nd Walmart special yet. 1st thing will be to remove the factory LDC (and put a cap on the muzzle to cover the machining where it was moulded on). It will be loud, but not all airguns have to be quiet. It will be a lot more handy without the plastic blob on the end, that's for sure.
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The Urban stock seems very, very ergonomic and the complete package as short as it is, is very attractive with nice proportions.
I couldn't let the above comment sit uncontested, so I started composing this message to say how ugly I think the Urban looks. Then I was notified someone else posted a new message saying how ugly it is while I was composing mine. Looks like they beat me to it! I guess we all have different tastes. :D
Guess I'll have to buy one now!
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Walmart is selling the coyote now
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Marc, good shopping.
Shorter barrel will not be so big disadvantage because larger caliber.
Comparing groping of .177 JSB heavy and .22 JSB heavy at indoor condition will be very interesting.
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The Urban stock seems very, very ergonomic and the complete package as short as it is, is very attractive with nice proportions.
I couldn't let the above comment sit uncontested, so I started composing this message to say how ugly I think the Urban looks. Then I was notified someone else posted a new message saying how ugly it is while I was composing mine. Looks like they beat me to it! I guess we all have different tastes. :D
Guess I'll have to buy one now!
At first, I thought my Gauntlet was ugly also but you get over the ugliness quickly when the rifle shoots well (as I understand the Urbans do).
When you guys get some trigger time, it’ll be interesting to see which rifle (Coyote or Urban) is more accurate at 50+ yards.
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Walmart is selling the coyote now
Looks like 22 only but the $420 price with free pickup is as low as I've seen a Coyote on sale.
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The Urban stock seems very, very ergonomic and the complete package as short as it is, is very attractive with nice proportions.
I agree. I know some folks have posted about the ugly silencer (which works great!) but I don't find it oddly out of proportion. It seems a lot like many silencers you might see.
Same thing for the synthetic stock. I've long been a fan of the Crosman pistols with the carbine stock. That Crosman stock creates a short, handy "rifle" that is pure fun to shoot and carry around. I own one. It is beauty in function.
The Urban seems beautiful to me like that.
To each his own. Folks like different things, elsewise there'd only be one style of car or furniture or a single appearance of someone we'd date. 🙂
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Walmart is selling the coyote now
Looks like 22 only but the $420 price with free pickup is as low as I've seen a Coyote on sale.
That is a good price on a coyote now I’m going to have to pu one 😎
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I find the Urban better looking than the Coyote but maybe it's cause I like a gun that have vertical grips. The stock on the Coyote just looks way too horizontal to be comfortable.
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I find the Urban better looking than the Coyote but maybe it's cause I like a gun that have vertical grips. The stock on the Coyote just looks way too horizontal to be comfortable.
Logical , reasonable, agreed Dillon! LOL I think the Urban looks better as well! ;-)
But hey, I like the look of the Mutants as well ;-)
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I find the Urban better looking than the Coyote but maybe it's cause I like a gun that have vertical grips. The stock on the Coyote just looks way too horizontal to be comfortable.
Logical , reasonable, agreed Dillon! LOL I think the Urban looks better as well! ;-)
But hey, I like the look of the Mutants as well ;-)
Thanks Jimmy! And I agree love the look of those as well ;D
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I find the Urban better looking than the Coyote but maybe it's cause I like a gun that have vertical grips. The stock on the Coyote just looks way too horizontal to be comfortable.
Logical , reasonable, agreed Dillon! LOL I think the Urban looks better as well! ;-)
But hey, I like the look of the Mutants as well ;-)
Thanks Jimmy! And I agree love the look of those as well ;D
Sorry to highjack your thread Marc, but hey Dillon.....don't remember where I saw this but it looked so good I stole the picture. It gives me wood ;-) With a freakin' March scope no doubt?
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... I like a gun that have vertical grips.
I just went over and shouldered them both. I think I like them both ... differently.
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Monday and Tuesday
Snagged the Coyote from Aceros de Hispania's Black Friday sale for $368 with the exchange rate that day.
A couple days later Wally put the Urban on that crazy sale... resistance was futile
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Monday and Tuesday
Snagged the Coyote from Aceros de Hispania's Black Friday sale for $368 with the exchange rate that day.
A couple days later Wally put the Urban on that crazy sale... resistance was futile
Unfortunately Aceros sale only short barrel versions.
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Unfortunately Aceros sale only short barrel versions.
Didn't realize there were different barrel length versions? I saw they had the whisper version with the big air stripper/pickle on the end and a few without the pickle.
Do you know what the different barrel lengths are, Peter?
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Marc ( Marc in Iowa ) have persuaded me that his Coyote ( from Gamo USA ??? ) has barrel lent 24,5” just now I am not sure if is not the length together with moderator.
https://www.airgundepot.com/gamo-coyote-whisper-pcp-pre-charged-pneumatic-air-rifle.html (https://www.airgundepot.com/gamo-coyote-whisper-pcp-pre-charged-pneumatic-air-rifle.html)
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The barrels on the Coyote aren't 24.5" long that's with the included LDC. I believe there just like the FAC Scorpion SE with a 18.5" barrel and the Urbans have a 15" barrel.
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The barrels on the Coyote aren't 24.5" long that's with the included LDC. I believe there just like the FAC Scorpion SE with a 18.5" barrel and the Urbans have a 15" barrel.
The BSA website reports 18.5" for the Bucanneer barrel length. Should be the same for the Coyote.
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18.5 says the tape measure to.
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Yup. Measuring forward from the muzzle side of the magazine gives:
15.0" Urban
18.5" Coyote
... 24.5" outer edge of silencer
I've found you can't really trust either retailers or manufacturers web sites. Here is what I found on weight:
GAMO Coyote (no scope)
Pounds
5.6 Pyramyd Air
5.6 Airguns Depot
5.6 Walmart
6.6 MidwayUSA (where I ordered)
7.85 GAMO website
Marc’s measured weight: 8.1
I was pretty surprised receiving a rifle that weighed 8.1 lb when I was expecting 5.6.
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Wow it's really that heavy? I guess I can't be too surprised as the urban isn't the lightest either
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I ordered the coyote from Walmart (424.99) on Sunday, an estimate of store arrival was next Monday 11th after 6 PM. I received a text today it is at my local store. I see it is now $445 and out of stock. Guess I got lucky.
Thanks Marc, for all your posts on your coyote as it helped make my decision. I look forward to breaking it in.
gary