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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => European/Asian Air Gun Gates => China/Asian AirGun Gate => Topic started by: Hoosier Daddy on October 24, 2017, 10:08:35 PM
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Since obtaianing my Xisico XS60C from Mike M. at FlyingDragon, I have a new respect for this brand. To say I am impressed with it is an understatement.
I emailed Mike on his input and availability but wonder if anyone here has knowledge or better yet experience with either of these?
Most importantly, how they would compare to my Beeman (SAG) AR2078-B that I truly am in love with. :-*
XISICO EM611 (http://xisicousa.com/xisicousawebsite/airgun-4/co2-airguns/xisico-em611/)
(http://xisicousa.com/xisicousawebsite/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/EM611.jpg)
XISICO EM612 (http://xisicousa.com/xisicousawebsite/airgun-4/co2-airguns/xisico-em612/)
(http://xisicousa.com/xisicousawebsite/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/EM612.gif)
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Scott,
Those look neat! Can Mike get them?
Thanks,
Taso
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I will let you know when I find out.
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Mike Says they haven't been made in 10-15 years and were rather expensive.
He is checking his source to see if there is any still in supply (NOS).
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Looks like PA sold them at one time...
Here is more detail on the 611 https://www.pyramydair.com/product/xisico-em611-co2-match-rifle?m=1567 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/xisico-em611-co2-match-rifle?m=1567)
(https://www.pyramydair.com/images/zoomed/XS-AREM611_1567zm.jpg)
(https://www.pyramydair.com/images/zoomed/XS-AREM611_1567zm1.jpg)
And the 612 https://www.pyramydair.com/product/xisico-em612-co2-match-rifle?m=1569 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/xisico-em612-co2-match-rifle?m=1569)
(https://www.pyramydair.com/images/zoomed/EM612_CO2_Match_1569zm.jpg)
(https://www.pyramydair.com/images/zoomed/EM612_CO2_Match_1569zm3.jpg)
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MAN!! They were some pretty guns.
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The EM611 looks a lot like an FWB 601 and C60.
Taso
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they were copies of the FWB. they even made a copy of the fwb300 that is rarer than hen's teeth...
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Yes they did... the BS4 http://www.airrifle-china.com/products_detail/productId=57.html (http://www.airrifle-china.com/products_detail/productId=57.html)... I gave up trying to find one and paid up for an honest 300S.
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Yes they did... the BS4 http://www.airrifle-china.com/products_detail/productId=57.html (http://www.airrifle-china.com/products_detail/productId=57.html)... I gave up trying to find one and paid up for an honest 300S.
got another link ??
this one didnt work.....
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John,
It took a couple seconds but the link did open for me.
Taso
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John,
It took a couple seconds but the link did open for me.
Taso
ok, i will try again.....thank you !!
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Worked for me again.
Hey those little electrons gotta bounce clear to China and back! ;D
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yep. i got on the site...the chinamen didnt make any .20's did they ?
thats what i'm look'n for in a springer, other than hw/beeman kind.
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not that i know of John... the only .20 cal chinese guns i know of have been two rebarreled b26... china doesnt even make their guns available to their own people... its all export market and what will sell lots at the lowest price... .177 and .22 are more common so that is what they make. even the .25s are rebarreled guns.
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Since obtaianing my Xisico XS60C from Mike M. at FlyingDragon, I have a new respect for this brand. To say I am impressed with it is an understatement.
I emailed Mike on his input and availability but wonder if anyone here has knowledge or better yet experience with either of these?
Most importantly, how they would compare to my Beeman (SAG) AR2078-B that I truly am in love with. :-*
XISICO EM611 (http://xisicousa.com/xisicousawebsite/airgun-4/co2-airguns/xisico-em611/)
(http://xisicousa.com/xisicousawebsite/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/EM611.jpg)
XISICO EM612 (http://xisicousa.com/xisicousawebsite/airgun-4/co2-airguns/xisico-em612/)
(http://xisicousa.com/xisicousawebsite/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/EM612.gif)
Where, Ohh WHERE... pray tell, did you get your "B" model AR2078 ?!? I have the "A" model (bolt action) but really wanted the "B" model.
I was talking Mike (M.) one evening, and he suggested looking for the "B" model as well... if, I could find one.. before I wound up ordering the "A" model from PA out of frustration.
I looked on several sites for the "B" but no luck.... got my 2078 and other Beeman (SAG / Industry Brand) CO2 rifles through PA.
I just received my AR 2078 (.22 cal.) about three weeks ago... love it, and also have the QB78 Deluxe (.22) and two QB78S models (AR style stock in composite) one in .177 and one in .22cal.
I probably should have gotten the "A" in .177 as I was going to use it for some 10M shooting, but forgot when I ordered it, that .22 is not allowed in 10M shoots.... though someone told me that .22's Are allowed, if they are under 500 fps... need to check the official rules to see if that is true or not, should be able to find that out on line.... unless you happen to know(?). ;D
As far as your question about the EM611/612's.... I have never owned one, But... I did get to shoot a 611 at a 10M shoot over in Tulsa,OK about two years ago that a guy had there..... Ohhh BABYYY!!!! If you can find one for yourself... splurge and get it!!... but they are Rare to find, according to the guy that owned the one I shot.
I can't compare it to the AR2078-B that you have, as I don't have one, but as much as I like the "A" model... it would start gathering a whole lot of dust, fast.... if I ever could locate and buy an EM611. Sorry, but that's all the "experience" I've ever had with either of those two (EM611/612)... I did ask him if he would consider selling it to me.... and it was a very quick and most definite "NO!".
Thanks for any info you can send my way, I really appreciate it.
Jim
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Jim, I got the AR2078-B model from a company I found on eBay named eCop! https://www.ebay.com/usr/ecop!?_trksid=p2047675.l2559 (https://www.ebay.com/usr/ecop!?_trksid=p2047675.l2559).
They get 3 or 4 listed on eBay in on a regular basis. They have the best prices on them I have found.
They get great reviews and I even got good reports on them here on GTA. Now, I can highly recommend them!
I was so impressed after the sale I actually just bought another from them for my Son-in-Law for Christmas.
They list them as Beeman AR2078B-177 like this... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Beeman-AR2078B-177-Precision-Single-Shot-177-Caliber-CO2-Pellet-Air-Rifle/382216587841?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Beeman-AR2078B-177-Precision-Single-Shot-177-Caliber-CO2-Pellet-Air-Rifle/382216587841?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649)
Prices vary a little, but if you watch I got both of mine for $186 a year apart.
Good luck in your quest, you won't regret it!
Scott
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Since obtaianing my Xisico XS60C from Mike M. at FlyingDragon, I have a new respect for this brand. To say I am impressed with it is an understatement.
I emailed Mike on his input and availability but wonder if anyone here has knowledge or better yet experience with either of these?
Most importantly, how they would compare to my Beeman (SAG) AR2078-B that I truly am in love with. :-*
XISICO EM611 (http://xisicousa.com/xisicousawebsite/airgun-4/co2-airguns/xisico-em611/)
(http://xisicousa.com/xisicousawebsite/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/EM611.jpg)
XISICO EM612 (http://xisicousa.com/xisicousawebsite/airgun-4/co2-airguns/xisico-em612/)
(http://xisicousa.com/xisicousawebsite/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/EM612.gif)
PPS; Me again.... I was just into the Xisico Warehouse listings, and thought you might find this interesting.. they're showing both the EM611 & 612(the 612 - is designed for "running target shooting") and they are described as being in the "present tense". IF... they were discontinued years ago, I doubt that they would keep these guns in the current catalog and seemingly, as being available... and perhaps they are as "NOS". I'm going to call them later this morning and find out for sure... will let you know. Here's to hoping. ;D
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Jim, I got the AR2078-B model from a company I found on eBay named eCop! https://www.ebay.com/usr/ecop!?_trksid=p2047675.l2559 (https://www.ebay.com/usr/ecop!?_trksid=p2047675.l2559).
They get 3 or 4 listed on eBay in on a regular basis. They have the best prices on them I have found.
They get great reviews and I even got good reports on them here on GTA. Now, I can highly recommend them!
I was so impressed after the sale I actually just bought another from them for my Son-in-Law for Christmas.
They list them as Beeman AR2078B-177 like this... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Beeman-AR2078B-177-Precision-Single-Shot-177-Caliber-CO2-Pellet-Air-Rifle/382216587841?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Beeman-AR2078B-177-Precision-Single-Shot-177-Caliber-CO2-Pellet-Air-Rifle/382216587841?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649)
Good luck in your quest, you won't regret it!
Scott
Good Morning, Scott...
Thanks for your reply and the links... will go check it out, right away. I just posted another (3rd one) reply to you, in regards to the EM611 & 612....on here. You might like it.... there are possibilities in the wind.
Thanks again,
Jim
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Morning to you!!!
Thank you JIM. Let me know what you find out.
I contacted Mike M and he was going to check for me but I never heard back a final answer.
We communicated back and forth, he did say if they were NOS unit still at the ware house, the seals would be hard and there are no replacements available. ::)
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Morning to you!!!
Thank you JIM. Let me know what you find out.
I contacted Mike M and he was going to check for me but I never heard back a final answer.
We communicated back and forth, he did say if they were NOS unit still at the ware house, the seals would be hard and there are no replacements available. ::)
Good Mornin/Good Evenin... Good Whatever time of day or night you're up and reading this! ;D
Thanks for your reply... Just wanted to let you know that I did NOT (yet) call Xisico... I wound up getting a very nasty cold, which affected my voice along with coughing, so I've put the phone call on hold until I can talk without blowing the eardrums out of whoever I'm speaking with on the other end. :D
Hopefully & the Lord willing... I will be much better by next Monday.. Dec.4th (Yikes!! Is it Really December Already!??!... where has the year gone?.... or am I just getting that much older.. really fast?!? :-\
Anyway, as soon as I'm able... I will call them and see what we can find out and will immediately let you know, as soon as I know.
Have a great day, stay healthy and by all means... hit what you're aiming at. ;D
Jim
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Take care of yourself Jim
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Morning to you!!!
Thank you JIM. Let me know what you find out.
I contacted Mike M and he was going to check for me but I never heard back a final answer.
We communicated back and forth, he did say if they were NOS unit still at the ware house, the seals would be hard and there are no replacements available. ::)
Would seals made to fit the FWB air guns that these are copies fit? Are FWB seals available?
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Well I scored a brand new still in the plastic
EM611 set up for the Chinese Olympic shooting team (1 of 6) made. It still had CO2 in the gun after setting 20 years in its case. The owner and good friend John Ye of XISICO gave it to me as a gift!!! I didn’t even take it out of the plastic I just shut the case and shipped it to MotorHead to have Scott go threw it. In absolutely like new condition and with all documentation etc still in the box. This has to be one of the rarest 10m guns. He had 3 of them at XISICO. I feel very lucky to have seen one let alone own a brand new one! 🤩 I can’t wait to actually shoot it. Feeling weird about taking it out of the plastic though…..
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Sweet score!
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Thanks Jerry. Hate taking it out of the wrap. It’s like pulling and unopened vintage toy out of its original box and throwing the box away.
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Now for sale in our members for sale area.
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Dang... A grand plus shipping is out of my reach. :-[