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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: maz413 on October 15, 2017, 07:10:52 PM
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If you could swap a part and get a extra 2 ft lbs in a Benjamin marauder, would it be worth it and how much would you pay for it? I am working on a part and need some input.
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What else goes with the extra 2 fpe? More shots? Easier cocking? Fewer shots?
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Sounds like you made up your own mind, since you’re working on the part. If you’re having fun, then the 2 FPE will be worth it to you...provided it gives you the 2 FPE.
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If you could swap a part and get a extra 2 ft lbs in a Benjamin marauder, would it be worth it and how much would you pay for it? I am working on a part and need some input.
For me, no.
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Sort of depends on whether that will be pushing my most accurate pellet at 880-890fps.
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2 FPE is not much of a performance improvement overall really. You can shoot unsorted pellets and get that much variance depending on pellet weight used.
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I would put exactly ZERO effort for a 2 FPE change ;D ;D
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Wouldn't pay or spend any time on it myself if the only thing it does is give me 2fpe.
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Its worth it if you only have 2 fpe ;D at least then you can claim double the power lol.
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LDP makes a good point with his joke. The question has a different meaning if you're asking about an extra 2fpe from a starting point of 12fpe, or 45fpe. A percentage power increase would seem a more relevant means of asking the question. Or at least telling folks your current power level for context. Bumping my Pardini up from 4fpe to 6fpe for use on rats by turning in the striker spring preload bolt (RVA) was obviously a useful (and incredibly easy, took about ten seconds, as it's a built-in feature) 2fpe increase. Worth it, obviously. But if I were currently using that pistol for target shooting it would be a pointless and even counterproductive change, as closer to 4fpe is better suited for paper punching at 10 metres.
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ive gained 2 fpe only to realize I Didn't know what I did .
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I would not bother with a 2 FP boost, then again I am not a power hungry shooter ;D
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2 foot pounds is kind of slippery....you likely could get that kind of increase with a little careful adjusting of what's already there.
BUT...are we talking going from 40 foot pounds to 42 foot pounds....or going from 5 foot pounds to 7 foot pounds?
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Short answer... No. Long answer... How valuable is your time? ;)
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Sry I didnt try to come off as not caring or just making a joke. I was serious in my answer along with the joke. Like others have said if you have 20+ fpe already then 2 more is insignificant. If its a lower power setup then yes maybe it would be worth it.
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2 foot pounds is kind of slippery....you likely could get that kind of increase with a little careful adjusting of what's already there.
BUT...are we talking going from 40 foot pounds to 42 foot pounds....or going from 5 foot pounds to 7 foot pounds?
Well, he mentioned a Marauder, didn't mention caliber but 2 FPE on any Marauder isn't gonna make a difference worth working on.
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Just looking for some in put, I am working on a modified bolt. I really thought I could get more FTlbs out of it than 2. I am using Benjamin .25 domes 28grain @ 3000psi. The modified bolt did use about 100psi more air. I would like to see more power but don't have the time to really put into it. I just bought a machine shop and I'm still working my normal job until I can get the shop really going. I have a bunch of different size transfer ports I made. I would like to see if that makes a bigger difference. Just something to work on when I can find the time.
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Looking at it from another angle, a bolt that would give more shots from the same fill might fly.
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I would put exactly ZERO effort for a 2 FPE change ;D ;D
same here
I'd be inclined to believe it'd be easier to get that 2 FPE by simply using a heavier pellet & maybe a smidgen of hammer spring adjustment
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No...not worth it to me. If I needed more power, I would just grab a different gun.
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Hmm, something to ponder: 2 more FPE @ 20 foot-pounds of energy, that's a 10% improvement.
I'd do it for sure.
Would people disregard a 10% improvement in efficiency? A 10% gain in FPS? What about a 10% improvement in accuracy?
At 30 foot-pounds, I probably would for the same reasons. So then it bears to ask- what is the end-game? Is seeking a better overall gun worth the time you put in? If so, I'd so it even at 40 FPE. My time is valuable, but I don't get paid to tinker or shoot my airguns. Last I checked, very few folks do, and in my not-so-humble opinion, anybody who ponders how valuable the net worth of time to put in such an improvement is taking this hobby far too serious to be called a hobby. Then it becomes an investment- and if the net gain is 2 FPE with one pellet it may be 4 FPE with another.
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Lets look at it this way.
If you have a 2 foot pound swap-a-part "cure" for a 4 foot pound airgun...I might go for it (after all, that's a 50% gain).
If its a 2 foot pound swap-a-part "cure" for a 50 foot pound PCP (about 4%), then I'll certainly pass.