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Title: Hydraulic or magnetic Trigger Release
Post by: skorec on September 30, 2017, 03:34:21 AM
Yours  Experiences and where to buy for EU guys .

https://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/510/510268.jpg
Title: Re: Hydraulic Trigger Release
Post by: rsterne on September 30, 2017, 12:55:10 PM
Seriously?... a couple of syringes and a hook to push the trigger.... looks like it was built in a home workshop, not a commercial product.... It allows "remote firing" a gun in a bench vice without disturbing it with your hand on the trigger....

Bob
Title: Re: Hydraulic Trigger Release
Post by: oldpro on September 30, 2017, 02:50:30 PM
 When i was testing the arrow barrel a few years ago I had a string pully system that I used to pull the trigger in the next room LOL, I was certain the arrow was going to explode!! It never did but you can never be to careful.
Title: Re: Hydraulic Trigger Release
Post by: Mod90 on October 01, 2017, 08:33:13 AM
Not too sure that design makes any more sense than just using a string. Only possible advantage I can see is if it's used on a gun where the trigger blade doesn't naturally reset to it's forward position when released.

There's nothing that contraption can do on a normal gun that couldn't be accomplished with a $1 worth of string
Title: Re: Hydraulic Trigger Release
Post by: Wayne52 on October 01, 2017, 08:37:34 AM
I doubt I'll ever buy a contraption like this but I suppose they've gotten plenty of takers.
Title: Re: Hydraulic Trigger Release
Post by: anti-squirrel on October 01, 2017, 10:05:07 AM
Between the not-so-good reviews for those at Sportsman's Guide and the short length (up to 1 meter)...

Nope.


I could probably find a stick or use the aforementioned couple cent's worth of string or yarn and it would work just fine.  But I guess if somebody thinks this will totally remove any human-induced motion into the shot cycle, well alrighty.
Title: Re: Hydraulic Trigger Release
Post by: JMJ in NC on October 01, 2017, 10:08:26 AM
Technically it's hydraulic-pneumatic hybrid, since they could not even be bothered to bleed the air out of the line for the photo.

Seriously?

JMJ
Title: Re: Hydraulic Trigger Release
Post by: skorec on October 01, 2017, 10:15:51 AM
Sorry I am not  English man and did not understand you fully.

I was thinking that it help me to avoid any gun pushing at trigger release momentum if the gun is rested only in light bench rest without shouldering it. 
Title: Re: Hydraulic Trigger Release
Post by: triggertreat on October 01, 2017, 10:36:25 AM
I think that it is quite a novel idea with a clamp to secure to the trigger.  Just push the syringe to fire.  Much better than string jerk or trying to hold steady.
Title: Re: Hydraulic Trigger Release
Post by: skorec on October 01, 2017, 10:45:31 AM
It is easy to say “trying to hold steady” but not easy to realized it whit 32-50 mag scopes   which are necessary to shoot sub MOA at 100+ yard.
Title: Re: Hydraulic Trigger Release
Post by: Ribbonstone on October 01, 2017, 10:56:28 AM
Time does pass...and manually operated camera shtters are nearly a thing of the past....but the simplest way was a manual cable shutter rerelease.

https://www.amazon.com/Fotasy-Mechanical-Shutter-Bulb-Lock-Fujifilm/dp/B0031CGW7E/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1506865671&sr=8-8&keywords=camera+shutter+release (https://www.amazon.com/Fotasy-Mechanical-Shutter-Bulb-Lock-Fujifilm/dp/B0031CGW7E/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1506865671&sr=8-8&keywords=camera+shutter+release)

MAybe a hydrolic system has advantages...likely not.....but it's not too hard to figure out a non-maring trigger guard mount.
Title: Re: Hydraulic Trigger Release
Post by: skorec on October 01, 2017, 11:13:06 AM
I  also afraid  that liquid pressure inside plastic house   pushed the gun at trigger release momentum too.
That is the reason why I was asking about experiences.
Title: Re: Hydraulic Trigger Release
Post by: rsterne on October 01, 2017, 12:38:25 PM
I just think it looks like it was built by a kid in his back yard.... the idea may be fine, the execution is not worthy of a commercial product, IMO....

Bob
Title: Re: Hydraulic Trigger Release
Post by: garczar6 on October 01, 2017, 12:43:16 PM
It is easy to say “trying to hold steady” but not easy to realized it whit 32-50 mag scopes   which are necessary to shoot sub MOA at 100+ yard.
Why the "no human involved" shooting? Great, a gun makes tiny little groups with a robot trigger. What are you trying accomplish? Almost all my guns shoot better than i do but that's part of the fun/challenge. I just don't see any need for a gizmo like this.
Title: Re: Hydraulic Trigger Release
Post by: rsterne on October 01, 2017, 12:53:39 PM
If 32-50X scopes were "necessary" at 100+ yards.... what magnification should they use in 1000 yd. benchrest?.... or for snipers at 3500 yds?.... over 1000X ? ? ?.... There are 9 guys who have shot under 1 MOA at 100 yards, right here on the GTA, in the NUAH club....

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=119449.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=119449.0)

The most popular scopes seem to be in the 12-18 X range, I don't know of anyone shooting with more than 24X.... There is no question that if you even TOUCH the gun, no matter how solid the rest, you can see the movement in a 24X scope.... but I don't think even the 600 yd. "Lead-Sled" 6mm shooters are allowed a remote trigger release....

Bob
Title: Hydraulic or Magnetic Trigger Release
Post by: skorec on October 01, 2017, 02:05:17 PM
I agree with you but If I return to theory then.
Electromagnetic force between trigger blade  and trigger guard ( induction relay without high power contacts assembly ) connected   via electricity cables can work much better.

I am not speaking about snipers but only about cheapest home   gun testing. 
Title: Re: Hydraulic or magnetic Trigger Release
Post by: oneshot61 on October 07, 2017, 08:52:41 AM
I have a hyscore dlx shooting rest that came with a hydraulic trigger release kit. It works good but to be honest I don't use it. I think its a good tool to use when testing new bullet/pellets in a gun to remove the human factor and see if its an accurate match for your barrel.
Title: Re: Hydraulic or magnetic Trigger Release
Post by: skorec on October 09, 2017, 04:38:16 AM
My backyard and walking bench rests are much cheaper.