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Airguns by Make and Model => Vintage Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: tomiboy on September 11, 2017, 10:01:33 AM
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This is my first attempt at stock finishing and a little restoration. My trigger guard is held on with (2) rivets. Should I drill these out or has anyone successfully worked around them while trying to refinish the stock?
It looks like the forend is held on with roll pins. Can I just drive these out from either side? Do I reuse them or need new?
I thought these were painted but it looks more like some kind of blueing or what I have read is called "brass black"? Anyone know what a 71 would have and how I can touch up some of the scratched/worn metal areas?
Thanks!!
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This is my first attempt at stock finishing and a little restoration. My trigger guard is held on with (2) rivets. Should I drill these out or has anyone successfully worked around them while trying to refinish the stock?
It looks like the forend is held on with roll pins. Can I just drive these out from either side? Do I reuse them or need new?
I thought these were painted but it looks more like some kind of blueing or what I have read is called "brass black"? Anyone know what a 71 would have and how I can touch up some of the scratched/worn metal areas?
Thanks!!
as far as I know they always just get painted, and I don't think anyone has had luck getting any sort of facility who does the brass black or black nickel to want to refinish their gun for them.
The roll pins are easily carefully removed from the pivot and end cap and are reusable, but you don't need to worry about removing them from the wood Because they can mess up the holes. Just tape up the linkage with masking tape.
The tabs of the split rivets on the inside can be easily bent in to remove them, but they can snap off if you're not careful. I don't know if you can buy replacements if they do break, but using 2 small black screws like they used much earlier on will work just fine. Now this is all if you don't ever plan on trying to sell it or anything as you want to keep everything original in this case.
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So restoring it hurts the value? I guess I didn't think of it as an investment as much as a project to make it look even better than it is. It has a nice stock and the metal is pretty good too. I wanted to bring it back better than new
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So restoring it hurts the value? I guess I didn't think of it as an investment as much as a project to make it look even better than it is. It has a nice stock and the metal is pretty good too. I wanted to bring it back better than new
If the gun needs to work again then a reseal and stuff won't hurt, but making any kind of alterations could hurt value. Adding a peep sight is ok though because there's no way to know if the gun came with it.
People normally either want a gun that's in a beautiful original condition, or one that's just a good solid shooter.
If you restore it, I'd think it's not exactly a user with honest wear anymore and it's not a minty all original looker either.
I suppose if you do a really good job to make it look as it came from the factory, you could advertise the work you've done if you ever want to sell it and someone might appreciate the work that's been put into it, but in general people appreciate honest wear.
Do you have any pictures of the gun ?
Postimage is a great simple way to post them, just upload them , then tap or click the hotlink for forums and paste it here.
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Hey Tom,
Like David says, we love pics and it would help us answer your questions better as to if you are going to hurt the resale value.
The first one I restored I removed the roll pins for the pump arm... THEN I found out here that I was lucky I did not crack it in the process, so the next one I used masking tape on the linkage and left it on.
For the trigger guard, as David says,You can bend the tabs on the rivet inward and remove it then reuse and expand them back in when done.
On my first one, I left it on and gently sanded around it, the next one had phillips screws so it was easy to remove.
Now, I believe the Brass pieces were not painted but "blackened". The finish does not chip like paint, it wears an scratches but the only ones I have ever seen "chipped" are the ones somebody painted afterwards.
I guess it depends on your personal taste and how bad yours is, but I would definitely NOT repaint one. (and I am a pretty good painter)
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This one is all original, as far as I can tell. It has definitely not been painted. I bought it from a guy on here who sells a lot of Sheridans to members. The stock has a couple of dings I'd like to see if I could steam out. (never tried this, only read about it.) It also has a number of shallow marks/scratches that would easily sand out (if I went that way). I don't really consider myself a collector, but I suppose people who are, don't like the idea of an amateur, like myself, experimenting with a Sheridan. My plan was to touch up where bluing is missing due to a scratch or scrape, not redo the overall barreled action, and refinish the stock. Sand it all down and do multiple coats of RLO to bring out the walnut figure. I'd also like to install a Williams peep sight. I read one guy recommended gluing it with the stuff they attach rear view mirrors to windshields. He said if you ever want to take it off one good, carefully placed, wack on the sight and it will come right off. I was considering getting a "steroid" treatment, but you guys are making me feel guilty about messing with it, LOL. The gun pumps up fine, open sights are right on, safety works, trigger is surprisingly nice. I haven't shot for groups...maybe today. I'm not sure I really care about resale, it's more for my pleasure. It's not like I have a big investment in it!
For those that have sanded the stock, how hard was it? It looks like there is some kind of varnish on it. I'm hoping it's thin and comes off easily.
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I think if you look close enough you'll find that those rivets are more like brads with tabs folded over in the inlet of the stock. You can carefully bend the tabs up and remove them the re-install them when done. Refinishing the stock won't hurt the value if you do it right and don't deviate too much from original.
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There's nothing wrong with having the gun drilled and tapped for a Williams peep Because many came with them and Because the rear sight can contribute to barrel separation, and it can sometimes add value to the gun.
The current 5D-sh isn't exactly identical to the old peep but that's not really a problem.
knowing the type of guns 19sheridan57 sells and based on description, it sounds to me like this gun has just got some honest wear and maybe you should try to love and appreciate the gun as it is character marks and all.
If you don't ever plan selling the gun then it's probably not a big deal to refinish the stock if you do a good job.
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My plan was to touch up where bluing is missing due to a scratch or scrape, not redo the overall barreled action, and refinish the stock. Sand it all down and do multiple coats of RLO to bring out the walnut figure. I'd also like to install a Williams peep sight.
Nothing wrong with your plan at all! but I have a few questions.
That is NOT blueing. How do you plan to "touch it up"? Blueing wont work on Brass / Bronze. It is a chemical reaction for steel / iron.
Is ROL Boiled Linseed Oil? That would be nice. I have had good luck with Tru-Oil from Birchwood Casey
I glued a Williams Peep on with Locktite "Black Max". It held very well but I did not try to remove it. "Timmy Mac" (Mac 1) will drill and tap your receiver for it like factory if you consider that above your skill set.
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RLO is royal London oil. I've never used it, but have seen pics of guns done with it and it is nice.
As Hoosier Daddy mentioned, Tru Oil works well, too. That's what I used on mine. I only gave it 3 or 4 coats because I didn't want to fill in the pores. Looks more natural that way, and doesn't get as glossy.
Not sure about RLO, but Tru oil is better than boiled linseed oil (BLO) for sealing the wood against moisture. If you prefer the look of BLO over Tru Oil, a nice compromise is to give it 3 or 4 coats of Tru Oil, then lightly scuff any shine off with 0000 steel wool or equivalent scotch brite pad (if you don't like steel wool), then rub a coat of BLO on and wipe off any excess. Gives a real nice low-shine luster. You should let the gun sit for a few days because the BLO takes longer to dry and cure then the Tru Oil. You can also just wipe the final coat of Tru Oil off while it's still wet - that will result in a finish with less shine. I got that idea from reading posts from someone here who used RLO on his gun. They rub the RLO in with a cloth rather than bare fingers like Tru Oil recommends.
Personally, I wouldn't try to touch up any small spots on the metal. You'll never match the original finish and it will look worse than if you just let the natural "used" look alone. If the metal is really bad you could repaint the whole barrel/pump tube assembly, but you'd have to disassemble the whole gun and seal off any place paint could get inside the barrel or pump tube. Lots of work and not worth it if the gun is just a little worn. I've never repainted, but have bookmarked a few paint products that other members have recommended over the years as giving a real authentic looking finish.
As mentioned earlier, just tape off the metal on the fore-stock and leave it attached. Sanding is pretty easy. I started with 120 to get all the finish off, then 220,320 and 400. Then the Tru Oil.
I removed those rivets on my first gun but I may at least try sanding around the trigger guard the next time I do one. If I can't do a good job then I'll remove it. If you can sand around it easy enough the Tru Oiling around it will be easy. If you get any on the metal just wipe it off while it's wet. If you puddle some up around the trigger guard just wipe the excess of lightly with a clean rag or paper towel. It will look good.
I glued my Williams 5D-SH peep sight on, too, although I used JB Weld. Use very little, you don't want it squishing out all over the place. I removed a sight that was glued on this way, too. I heated it up (a little) with a heat gun although I don't know if it was necessary. Put a wood block against the side of the peep sight and gave it a mild whack and it popped off. That doesn't mean it doesn't hold well, though. For normal use the JB Weld holds very well.
As far as how refinishing the wood affects resale value, I can only give you my opinion. I don't care about original finish unless it's immaculate. Then I'd leave it alone. I've seen pics of so many Sheridans with refinished stocks and I've seen the results of my own refinishing job, and I think a refinished Sheridan looks much better than even an original finish in great condition. I also have a hunch that most buyers of Sheridans are guys like me that don't buy to just "collect" and hold them as an investment, we buy them to use and if the gun looks real nice, that's a bonus. Since I like to do the refinishing I don't care if they need refinishing but I wouldn't NOT buy one if it was refinished.
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I have no clue how you'd touch up the metal.
Tim at mac1airguns painted mine after the resolder job, and it's not really a super durable finish.
Not sure if mine was an exception or not, but it's wearing off easily.
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I have a '69 BS that has some special meaning to me for a couple reasons. I didn't want to drill it so I cleaned it real good with alcohol and used super glue to attach the peep. I knocked it off once just to see how good it was on there and what effect it may have had on the gun's finish. It didn't seem the hurt the gun and it's on pretty good. A good "rap" will knock it off.
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Good info! Thanks!
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I have always called it blued, like so many others. A former factory worker said it was " black oxide."
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Tim of Mac1 advised me to find a Sheridan or older Benjamin for a steroid treatment, as they required the least work and were the best for the conversion. He said they were better made than the new 392. The Sheridan is the cheapest to do because it has stronger cocking arms, at least I think that's what he said. This one has a really nice trigger too.
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So ask yourself... What do you want to do with this gun?
Not to take bread from Timmy Macs mouth, but is there a need to go past the factory spec of 8 pumps?
5-6 pumps in a 'Streak with good seals is good for 20 yard plinking.... and the potential is there to be dead nuts accurate for paper target shooting.
8 will exterminate plenty of pests... up to rabbit size. Squirrel and chipmunks are a piece of cake.
Do you really need have it modified for the ability to go 12 or more pumps?
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So ask yourself... What do you want to do with this gun?
Not to take bread from Timmy Macs mouth, but is there a need to go past the factory spec of 8 pumps?
5-6 pumps in a 'Streak with good seals is good for 20 yard plinking.... and the potential is there to be dead nuts accurate for paper target shooting.
8 will exterminate plenty of pests... up to rabbit size. Squirrel and chipmunks are a piece of cake.
Do you really need have it modified for the ability to go 12 or more pumps?
I feel the same way.
I can't discount his work and I know you get a little more power for your 8 pumps and even more for 12, but when would anyone want to pump 12 times.
I normally only pump my gun a Max of 4 which is still quite a bit of power, I guess it's those who are familiar with much more powerful PCP guns that just want more. ( I'm just assuming Because I can't think of any other reason to want more power from them )
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So ask yourself... What do you want to do with this gun?
Not to take bread from Timmy Macs mouth, but is there a need to go past the factory spec of 8 pumps?
5-6 pumps in a 'Streak with good seals is good for 20 yard plinking.... and the potential is there to be dead nuts accurate for paper target shooting.
8 will exterminate plenty of pests... up to rabbit size. Squirrel and chipmunks are a piece of cake.
Do you really need have it modified for the ability to go 12 or more pumps?
I feel the same way.
I can't discount his work and I know you get a little more power for your 8 pumps and even more for 12, but when would anyone want to pump 12 times.
I normally only pump my gun a Max of 4 which is still quite a bit of power, I guess it's those who are familiar with much more powerful PCP guns that just want more. ( I'm just assuming Because I can't think of any other reason to want more power from them )
I agree. I had one of mine Steroided when it needed repairs, but if I had it to to over again, I would leave it stock. The Steroid treatment may include beefier parts, but the older 'Dans had pretty good parts already. Regarding the extra power, I never felt the need for more power, and I seldom use more than 4 pumps, anyway.
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Steroid This!!!
Time we get done whacking and hacking these classics there either won't be any left or the few originals will be so over priced you would have to mortgage the farm to own one. If a guy came to me wanting to buy a classic Sheridan and told me he plans to have it steroided I'd sic my dog on him. If the dang gun ain't powerful enough to get the job done go get another one that is.
On the other hand. If you find one with major barrel separation or one that looks like Johnny Cash's Caddie then by all means.. have fun..... if you can afford the treatment. But to take a perfectly functional classic Sheridan and deface it is just silly... IMO
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I've decided to leave it alone
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LOL.... good call. And sorry bout the "tough love".
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Yep, good call.
We had to be a bit harsh , especially since there are no pictures to show us exactly what you're dealing with.
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I've seen it. It's worthy of keeping original.
I would find one in worse shape and "tinker". Matter of fact, I have one. The threads in the valve are stripped so that would need addressed and it has a pretty good chip in the pump arm. I have all the parts though. I think it's real early '70s. No barrel separation. Probably take $60 for it.
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I'm going to get a little off-topic here, but the other day I googled 1968 Sheridan Blue Streak. Scrolled down a little ways and I see pics of Blue Streaks and then click on that link that says "view more images". Scroll down THAT page a little ways and there's a pic of Avator! I bet he'll be struttin' around now that he knows that! ;)
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Yeah, prolly not.... my "stutter" broke years ago.
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Now that I think of it, I better clarify: I never met Avator and I'm not suggesting that he's the kind of guy that goes strutting around like a "cock-of-the-walk". I just meant it in the sense "who wouldn't be proud to be associated with the venerable 1968 Blue Streak?"
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Betty Lou's '68 Blue ain't Blue no more... It's real shiny brass. The finish was so far gone when we got it (very cheap... Thank you 19Sheridan57) that I decided to strip it the rest of the way. The rest of the gun is bone stock except for the Williams Peep.
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I can kinda see the brass color through the blue on mine. Mine is not actually a 71 as it turns out, it's a 72-74 not sure which.
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That's just a sign that someone has enjoyed it over the years. Ours was more gone than not. I bought it with the intentions of tossing it behind the seat in the truck..... until Betty Lou got her hands on it. Come to think of it... that happens rather often.
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Betty Lou's '68 Blue ain't Blue no more... It's real shiny brass. The finish was so far gone when we got it (very cheap... Thank you 19Sheridan57) that I decided to strip it the rest of the way. The rest of the gun is bone stock except for the Williams Peep.
I was glad to find a new home for that " ugly booger "
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You better hope she ain't lookin over my shoulder.
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Brown worn to bronze shows love.
Oh that needs to be my sig line!
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It does have that dirty underwear appeal don't it? Yep, perfect sig for ya.... :P
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Tom,
If you would really like to do something to your Sheridan, consider this. Sheridans had a few optional accessories back then. One was the peep sight as has been mentioned. The other was a Sheridan Intermount scope mount [ I have some ] & a Weaver scope. This will improve shooting with your poorer vision, too. This will not hurt the value of one, but INCREASE its value, since these were factory offerings. I rarely run across one with a factory peep, or scope set up, but when I do, they command a premium price.
NOTICE the very RARE " left-handed Sheridan at the bottom of the ad.
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I would like to mount a scope but I thought Intermounts caused barrel seperation. I was going to use one of the Baker mounts
https://www.bakerairguns.com/product/one-piece-scope-mount-sheridan-c-blue-silver-streak/ (https://www.bakerairguns.com/product/one-piece-scope-mount-sheridan-c-blue-silver-streak/)
and maybe a UTG Bugbuster so there would still be some room to grip the gun while pumping
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Nope... typically intermounts won't cause barrel sep. They are made to clamp the barrel.
Most folks say that the rear sights that use the spacers mainly lead to sep. I happen to think a bit differently. Albeit, a wedge between tube and barrel is not a good thing. I think it mainly comes from improper operation and over pumping. Which is also one reason I am against sterioding them.
It's a brass pump tube soldered to a brass barrel. Think about that....
Now look at your pressure points while pumping....
If you are holding the gun by the wrist of the stock while pumping your two points of pressure are at the muzzle end where the pivot pin is and at the screw that hold the stock on. Both attached to the tube only. Oh BTW.... your using leverage from the pump handle to rip that joint apart. I know I'm gonna get flak over this but, I call it as I see it.
Ever thought about why they soldered the barrel to the tube in the first place?
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The mount from Baker is good one. It won't be an original Sheridan part, but that is up to you. If you look at their mount, it clamps to the barrel, too ! I have several scoped Sheridans using an Intermount, & no problems. I agree with Bill on his comment on barrel separation. I also think that after the scope is mounted, extra care needs to be taken to keep from hitting the scope, which could cause the separation, too. A scope also makes it harder to hold to pump, but sit down, lay it upside down in your lap, with the scope & mount between your legs, & pump it like that. Some people blame the wedges rear sight for separation, too, but if you are worried about that, there are ways to alleviate some of the pressure on the joint, from that sight.
I RARELY ever pumped up my Sheridan over 5 strokes. That was plenty to take squirrels & rabbits. 3 strokes for plinking.
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This is where I want to be. Baker mount with a short scope that allows me to grip the gun in the proper place for pumping. I just dont want to spend $180 for the Weaver 1-3. I hope to find a used one
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=81851.0;attach=97566;image (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=81851.0;attach=97566;image)
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Looks good. Tasco makes a pretty good .22 scope, that is not expensive. Remember, a Sheridan is not a TWANGER, so it won't beat the scope to death in a week ! Mounts have to be high enough to clear bolt handle.
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This is my first attempt at stock finishing and a little restoration. My trigger guard is held on with (2) rivets. Should I drill these out or has anyone successfully worked around them while trying to refinish the stock?
It looks like the forend is held on with roll pins. Can I just drive these out from either side? Do I reuse them or need new?
I thought these were painted but it looks more like some kind of blueing or what I have read is called "brass black"? Anyone know what a 71 would have and how I can touch up some of the scratched/worn metal areas?
Thanks!!
Where did you find the rifle?
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from a GTA member 19sheridan57
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from a GTA member 19sheridan57
I heard a rumor that he might have one or two more to sell..... ;)
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from a GTA member 19sheridan57
I heard a rumor that he might have one or two more to sell..... ;)
Edit: or 20
Lol one day in the near future. He must find them wholesale from somwhere??
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There are a few in the stables.
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from a GTA member 19sheridan57
I heard a rumor that he might have one or two more to sell..... ;)
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Lol one day in the near future. He must find them wholesale from somwhere??
Nope, he's just old, retired and single with nothing better to do than sit a scour the interweb all day and night.... 8)
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from a GTA member 19sheridan57
I heard a rumor that he might have one or two more to sell..... ;)
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Lol one day in the near future. He must find them wholesale from somwhere??
Nope, he's just old, retired and single with nothing better to do than sit a scour the interweb all day and night.... 8)
I am not single but I am a disabled veteran who sits at home all day, I sit at home and make shot shells all day. ;D
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Well,,,, I AM getting older [ 68 ], I AM retired , I AM single,, but I am not online that much.
I am a disabled vet, too.
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Well,,,, I AM getting older [ 68 ], I AM retired , I AM single,, but I am not online that much.
I am a disabled vet, too.
What branch?
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I have no clue how you'd touch up the metal.
Tim at mac1airguns painted mine after the resolder job, and it's not really a super durable finish.
Not sure if mine was an exception or not, but it's wearing off easily.
Birchwood Casey makes a bluing for brass called "Brass Black". Works on brass, copper & bronze. I have used it to touch up my 342. Pretty easy to use too.
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I have heard of "Brass Black" but did not know it was a Birchwood Casey product.
Thanks for that!
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tomiboy, trying to get up to speed on your thread. Do you have a pic of your rifle?
Hey Tom, thanks for the tip; "Brass Black"
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He is on vacation.
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Good for him. Man can I use one too. Been burning the midnight oil. 3 remodels & 1 ground-up. Found muscles that had been hidden. Advil's been a good friend. Need to start subbing out a lot more work to those young bucks. BTW, you doing ok after the storm?
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Well,,,, I AM getting older [ 68 ], I AM retired , I AM single,, but I am not online that much.
I am a disabled vet, too.
I am an Oldie but I'm not Moldy, I am Retired and a Veteran but I'm not a Retired Veteran, I am somewhat disabled(Blind, in left eye) but Im also enabled, I'm 69 and I feel Fine(most days), my days are now numbered but I don't feel encumbered, Each Day with my Wife is the Best Day Of My Life. With Joanne at my Side, I am Truly Blessed & Highly Favored. My Best Wishes to All - Tom
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Doing fine. No real damage from the storm, other than lost power for several days. Many huge trees are down all over the area. There is one huge Oak tree laying on an old church. They cut away all the limbs near the entrance , so they could go in & worship. The rest of the tree is still leaning against it !!
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Doing fine. No real damage from the storm, other than lost power for several days. Many huge trees are down all over the area. There is one huge Oak tree laying on an old church. They cut away all the limbs near the entrance , so they could go in & worship. The rest of the tree is still leaning against it !!
Glad to hear you made it through the Hurricane and doing Fine ! It was a Doozie ! Best Wishes - Tom
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Well,,,, I AM getting older [ 68 ], I AM retired , I AM single,, but I am not online that much.
I am a disabled vet, too.
What branch?
Sorry, I missed your post . I was in the Army . Spent one year in " Injun Country." [ Vietnam ]
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Same here Steve, glad you made it out ok.
Thanks to all Vets for you service!!!
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I am in New Mexico and not really sure how to post pics, but if Steve knows how he is welcome to. He sent me plenty of pics. I am retired but my wife isn't so it's more of a vacation for her!!
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Hats off to your wife for choosing the best state in the country for vacation. ;)
I'd be happy to post pics if you'd like. Just send them to my email. I'll do the rest.
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here are a couple;
When you get a scope & mount on it, post some pix !
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I am in New Mexico and not really sure how to post pics, but if Steve knows how he is welcome to. He sent me plenty of pics. I am retired but my wife isn't so it's more of a vacation for her!!
Congrats on getting out of illinois for a bit, its nice to take a break every once and awhile.
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Not being a Smart Alec.... whats in New Mexico as vacation goes?
My Daughter #3 moved to Mesa AZ and we are planning a Camper Haul across the US to go to Saharah Nation Park there. I have never been west of the Mississippi.... except to visit her.
Would love to go 'Round trip to see the Daughter, then Moab in Utah, Wind up in Bonneville Salt Flats in time for Speed Week.
Might see how to work in New Mex if it is worth while.
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I just got back from Moab.
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We're thinking about retiring in Placitas!
Moab is on my to do list!!
We lived in Phoenix for a little over a year also
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Not being a Smart Alec.... whats in New Mexico as vacation goes?
My Daughter #3 moved to Mesa AZ and we are planning a Camper Haul across the US to go to Saharah Nation Park there. I have never been west of the Mississippi.... except to visit her.
Would love to go 'Round trip to see the Daughter, then Moab in Utah, Wind up in Bonneville Salt Flats in time for Speed Week.
Might see how to work in New Mex if it is worth while.
What's in NM? Dude? Just the best big game hunting in the entire country, for just about anything you can think of. But you better hurry all those dad-gum fishing & hunting shows are moving in.
If your wife doesn't like to hunt there are plenty of activities to fill any palette of the opposite sex.
http://www.ourpubliclands.org/about/new-mexico/hunting-fishing (http://www.ourpubliclands.org/about/new-mexico/hunting-fishing)
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g28952-Activities-New_Mexico.html (https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g28952-Activities-New_Mexico.html)
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We're thinking about retiring in Placitas!
I think you nailed it with Placitas. Close to Santa Fe & Northern NM (Gods Country). Kinda partial to SW Style. General Contractor here...my specialty.
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I've lived in 3 of the four corners of the US. South West is next on the list. NM is exactly where I had in mind.
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Bill, it’s really a sleeper. When most folks think of NM they think of desert. Elevations in Northern NM are in excess of 12,000’, down to just about 3000’ in Southern NM. Rocky Mountain Big Horn in the North & Desert Big Horn in the South, Oryx at White Sands Missile Range just East of Las Cruces, Ibex in the Florida’s Mnts East of Deming, Mule Deer, Pronghorn Antelope, Mountain Lion, Black Bear, & Turkey state wide, & then there’s the biggest draw to the state; the largest Elk in the entire country, planted in the Gila Mnts in West Central NM. This strain of Rocky Mnt Elk originated from Yellow Stone. The dad-gum hunting stations set up there every year. But then again there's my favorite; “Whatumacallit Mnt” for Elk. Not even those so called experts have figured it out yet.
Then theres all the in between game or varmints…
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Here's a 380 Bull I took with the bow a few years back. He's considered small by today's standards.
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Here's a 380 Bull I took with the bow a few years back. He's considered small by today's standards.
Nice Mount ! ;) Marty ! I like New Mexico. I have relatives that live in Sant Fe'.
My Best Wishes to You Sir & Good Hunting - Tom Wood
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You had me at "Big Horn"
I have always wanted to see two Big Horn Rams duel it out!
(http://ramcquade.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2RamsButtingHeads.jpg)
We just got puney little 200# White-tails here. ;)
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We're thinking about retiring in Placitas!
I think you nailed it with Placitas. Close to Santa Fe & Northern NM (Gods Country). Kinda partial to SW Style. General Contractor here...my specialty.
If we decide to go there I may be in touch!
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Thanks Tom ;)
Scott, there are areas in the Pecos wilderness (above Santa Fe) where you can literally walk up on them. Tame as can be.
Tom, We'd be practically neighbors. I'm about 15 min South of Albuquerque.
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If we decide to go there I may be in touch!
DITTO!
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My doors are always open. Just be sure to knock first. ;)
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Too bad Hyundai don't have a facility out there... I'd be on the transfer list. It would need to be near a large body of water. I've lived around water all my life.
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Too bad Hyundai don't have a facility out there... I'd be on the transfer list. It would need to be near a large body of water. I've lived around water all my life.
Will the " Rio Grande " do ??
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Sorry Bill, no Hyundai but a Facebook is going up about a mile from me. Nope on the large body of water either but we do have a few ponds;
http://www.emnrd.state.nm.us/SPD/elephantbuttelakestatepark.html (http://www.emnrd.state.nm.us/SPD/elephantbuttelakestatepark.html)
http://www.emnrd.state.nm.us/SPD/navajolakestatepark.html (http://www.emnrd.state.nm.us/SPD/navajolakestatepark.html)
Navajo also has the Quality Waters. Some of the best trout fishing in the Country.
Steve, yup on the Rio Grande. Most areas muddy as the day is long & a stone through across. Although there are some areas of Northern NM where the water is crystal clear & trout fishing is excellent.
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LOL.....
.... meanwhile, back at the Sheridan....
How goes it Tom?
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Take a trip to Arches National Park, just north of Moab. If you plan to visit one visit the other. While your in NM visit the Painted Desert & Petrified Forest National Park.
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Amen to that Rob. Don't forget Carlsbad Caverns down South.
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Carlsbad Caverns is awesome!