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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: SpiralGroove on August 30, 2017, 12:38:37 AM
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Got my Kral Jumbo today and have some initial thoughts ;).
Pro:
- Accurate (BB size groups @ 13 yards-> CPUM).
- Velocity adjuster works nicely, very sensitive ....... a little goes a long way.
- Good Value for the $$ ..... $600.
- Nice weight, but could be lighter.
- Stock made of Turkish Walnut (1/4 very nice, the rest OK).
Cons:
- Looks like it had previously been returned to PA :P.
- Most accessories close to junk quality (Case, Bi-pod clip, Bi-pod itself & single shot magazine).
- Fit & finish in-line with Hatsan (not great - not bad either); cocking lever pretty stiff, but not sloppy.
- Barrel shroud pretty junky, I removed (no set-screw) and added one of my threaded LDCs.
- Trigger not great. First stage very long, but you can adjust out. Second stage can't be lightened enough for my taste - won't cock if you go in too far. Not terrible though.
- Stock's butt a little short, in-letting below average, overall look - Not a Minelli :o.
- Magazines pretty cheap ........, but work. Hatsan or BSA are better, but the Kral has 14 shots!
- Hammer strike must be substantial as I can only hear the ping of the valve strike when firing.
- Not as efficient as I thought; went through 75 bar pretty fast.
- Can't be regulated.
Unfortunately, the Con's outweigh the Pro's 2 to 1.
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Got my Kral Jumbo today and have some initial thoughts ;).
Pro:
- Accurate (BB size groups @ 13 yards-> CPUM).
- Velocity adjuster works nicely, very sensitive ....... a little goes a long way.
- Good Value for the $$ ..... $600.
- Nice weight, but could be lighter.
- Stock made of Turkish Walnut (1/4 very nice, the rest OK).
Cons:
- Looks like it had previously been returned to PA :P.
- Most accessories close to junk quality (Case, Bi-pod clip, Bi-pod itself & single shot magazine).
- Fit & finish in-line with Hatsan (not great - not bad either); cocking lever pretty stiff, but not sloppy.
- Barrel shroud pretty junky, I removed (no set-screw) and added one of my threaded LDCs.
- Trigger not great. First stage very long, but you can adjust out. Second stage can't be lightened enough for my taste - won't cock if you go in too far. Not terrible though.
- Stock's butt a little short, in-letting below average, overall look - Not a Micelli :o.
- Magazines pretty cheap ........, but work. Hatsan or BSA are better, but the Kral has 14 shots!
- Hammer strike must be substantial as I can only hear the ping of the valve strike when firing.
- Not as efficient as I thought; went through 75 bar pretty fast.
- Can't be regulated.
Unfortunately, the Con's outweigh the Pro's 2 to 1.
Thank you for the honest review. I was looking at the and the Artemis M16 as a cheap re-entry in to the PCP world to use with my cheap hand pump. I kind of figured the quality of this gun might be lacking. We'll see what people think of the M16...
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Thank you for the honest review. I was looking at the and the Artemis M16 as a cheap re-entry in to the PCP world to use with my cheap hand pump. I kind of figured the quality of this gun might be lacking. We'll see what people think of the M16...
One thing I will say, is that most of the con's can be fixed with a little effort :D.
- Cocking lever can be polished and its stroke smoothed.
- Trigger sear springs can be modded to make the final break lighter.
- Refinishing the stock and reducing the edging of the pistol grip would help.
- Make a SSG per Troy and drill out & lighten hammer. The valve and porting maybe modifiable to increase efficiency. It would be nice to be able get 90 consistent shots at 20 FPE - within 3%.
- I would want to look into shortening the barrel a few inches too.
- Ya never buy inexpensive guns for the accessories anyway ;)
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Do you mind posting a pic of the sear if you pull it out? I'm sure it has the same snag sear that the PB uses and I have a redesigned sear that drops the final break 40-50%.
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When you get tired of the cons, let me know what you got to have for the rifle.....
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Do you mind posting a pic of the sear if you pull it out? I'm sure it has the same snag sear that the PB uses and I have a redesigned sear that drops the final break 40-50%.
Hey Matt-Are those sears ready to ship? Just wondering. ???
Ed
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Do you mind posting a pic of the sear if you pull it out? I'm sure it has the same snag sear that the PB uses and I have a redesigned sear that drops the final break 40-50%.
Uses the same sear.