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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: PeterL on August 05, 2017, 07:06:40 PM
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Definitely not what you thought huh? ;D Any who, their have been many custom air strippers for the marauder platform and I was wondering does anyone make a custom one for sale? I've modified my stock ones more times than I can count but im looking for one that is not plastic and very durable. Steel, aluminum etc.... But is not just for looks but very effective on high power marauder builds. 55-90 fpe to give an idea. If you do, let me know. Thanks.
Peter
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are you looking for an airstriper ? it seems more like you're asking for a shroud, or ldc..or ??? airstrpers are usually found on target rifles, or where improved accuracy is wanted/needed. some are adjustable to tune the harmonics. these aren't for quieting a gun down.
you'll probably get more responses if you're more specific. a functioning lcd or shroud would be words commonly used in place of a word we don't normally use.
peace
kj
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are you looking for an airstriper ? it seems more like you're asking for a shroud, or ldc..or ??? airstrpers are usually found on target rifles, or where improved accuracy is wanted/needed. some are adjustable to tune the harmonics. these aren't for quieting a gun down.
you'll probably get more responses if you're more specific. a functioning lcd or shroud would be words commonly used in place of a word we don't normally use.
peace
kj
Thanks for the response. Yes, I am looking for an air stripper; not an LDC. The marauder air rifle comes with a factory air stripper. I am looking for an aftermarket type. As far as muzzle report goes, an affective air stripper will do all that you've stated above and also quiet the report of any rifle significantly IF made or modified correctly.
Peter
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the maurader doesn't come with an air stiper in the usual sense of the word. it has a end piece to the shroud. here is an air striper
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hatsan-air-stripper-for-select-22-cal-hatsan-air-guns?a=4557 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hatsan-air-stripper-for-select-22-cal-hatsan-air-guns?a=4557)
i believe you have your terminology confused. alittle research will help.
peace
kj
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the maurader doesn't come with an air stiper in the usual sense of the word. it has a end piece to the shroud. here is an air striper
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hatsan-air-stripper-for-select-22-cal-hatsan-air-guns?a=4557 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hatsan-air-stripper-for-select-22-cal-hatsan-air-guns?a=4557)
i believe you have your terminology confused. alittle research will help.
peace
kj
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Correct. The MRod comes with a shroud that has baffles in it to keep it quiet. No stripper, blond or otherwise. ;)
Ed
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the maurader doesn't come with an air stiper in the usual sense of the word. it has a end piece to the shroud. here is an air striper
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hatsan-air-stripper-for-select-22-cal-hatsan-air-guns?a=4557 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hatsan-air-stripper-for-select-22-cal-hatsan-air-guns?a=4557)
i believe you have your terminology confused. alittle research will help.
peace
kj
Let's not get ignorant, ok. I am aware of the PROPER TERMINOLOGY(spacer, barrel shroud). So, explain to me what most mrod/synrod owners refer to it as? An "Air Stripper". what's it's function since I need to do, "A little research"? No need to answer that, hence why I was asking for an aftermarket one. Better If you just move on if you can't be of any help. If you can/want to, then do so.
Peter
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Peter, no need to get defensive. The Mrod does not have an air stripper, it comes with a shroud, baffles and shroud cap. Owners most often refer to it as just a shroud. The purpose, to quieten the report. You may want to contact Oldpro, member and vendor here. At one time he did make air strippers For the Mrod. Also take a look at the EVP download on this page. Parts 13-16.
http://www.crosman.com/airguns/air-rifles/marauder-rifle-177-wood-stock (http://www.crosman.com/airguns/air-rifles/marauder-rifle-177-wood-stock)
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the maurader doesn't come with an air stiper in the usual sense of the word. it has a end piece to the shroud. here is an air striper
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hatsan-air-stripper-for-select-22-cal-hatsan-air-guns?a=4557 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hatsan-air-stripper-for-select-22-cal-hatsan-air-guns?a=4557)
i believe you have your terminology confused. alittle research will help.
peace
kj
Let's not get ignorant, ok. I am aware of the PROPER TERMINOLOGY(spacer, barrel shroud). So, explain to me what most mrod/synrod owners refer to it as? An "Air Stripper". what's it's function since I need to do, "A little research"? No need to answer that, hence why I was asking for an aftermarket one. Better If you just move on if you can't be of any help. If you can/want to, then do so.
Peter
wow, really ? i was trying to help, i won't again
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Peter, no need to get defensive. The Mrod does not have an air stripper, it comes with a shroud, baffles and shroud cap. Owners most often refer to it as just a shroud. The purpose, to quieten the report. You may want to contact Oldpro, member and vendor here. At one time he did make air strippers For the Mrod. Also take a look at the EVP download on this page. Parts 13-16.
http://www.crosman.com/airguns/air-rifles/marauder-rifle-177-wood-stock (http://www.crosman.com/airguns/air-rifles/marauder-rifle-177-wood-stock)
Yeah, I'll give Travis a holler about one.
Definitely appreciate the info you posted. Will look into it. However, what is the link to? Don't understand what you're trying to say. Are you sending me to the parts manual? I have the parts manual. Do explain the link.
FYI
Take a look at part #8. Here's an updated parts list.
http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/BP2564S%20%20BP2564W_EVP.pdf (http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/BP2564S%20%20BP2564W_EVP.pdf)
Peter
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For an Mrod, the shroud spacer (part #8), is an Air Stripper of sorts.
It directs air I to the rear major volume chamber of the shroud as the pellet passes through the end of the shroud spacer... And before the pellet passes the baffles in the forward section of the shroud.
I'm confident you already realized that.
Several of us have drilled the side holes in the shroud spacer, (part #8) larger and angled rearward, to allow greater flow of air into the rear chamber with satisfactory results.
Some time back, I believe Neil Claque used to make and sell a metal replacement for part #8, but I do not know if those are still available.
Also, Tim at Mac-1 makes a actual adjustable STRIPPER the replaces the end cap of the barrel shroud. It adds about 3" length to the gun/shroud and the intent is to redirect any remaining air (from the muzzle blast), away from the rear of the pellet/bullet.
Hope this helps.
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For an Mrod, the shroud spacer (part #8), is an Air Stripper of sorts.
It directs air I to the rear major volume chamber of the shroud as the pellet passes through the end of the shroud spacer... And before the pellet passes the baffles in the forward section of the shroud.
I'm confident you already realized that.
Several of us have drilled the side holes in the shroud spacer, (part #8) larger and angled rearward, to allow greater flow of air into the rear chamber with satisfactory results.
Some time back, I believe Neil Claque used to make and sell a metal replacement for part #8, but I do not know if those are still available.
Also, Tim at Mac-1 makes a actual adjustable STRIPPER the replaces the end cap of the barrel shroud. It adds about 3" length to the gun/shroud and the intent is to redirect any remaining air (from the muzzle blast), away from the rear of the pellet/bullet.
Hope this helps.
Gertrude,
Thanks for the info. I did talk to Timmy earlier and he said the same thing about the one he makes. I'm not needing one for the exterior for I already have and LDC to help with noise also. I just would love a all metal one or sorts with rigidity and better flow. I've modified plenty of the stock ones myself, and they have all help. I'll check with Travis and Neil to see if one can be made. Thanks again.
Peter
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I found a metal version thru ebay early last year sorry don't have link but it works great its a little longer overall.
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I found a metal version thru ebay early last year sorry don't have link but it works great its a little longer overall.
Appreciate that bit of info Mada. Never thought to check there.
Peter
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Thank you all for your responses and for taking the time to read my post. I've found someone (oldpro) to make me one and I appreciate that. Thanks again.
Peter
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Travis will take good care of you!
Check some of rsterne build posts, he make air strippers for his airguns because he can use shrouds or LDC's Canada.
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Well I'm a little disappointed. Was expecting something different.... A Biker's mindset...
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An Air strippper will Not make the report quieter. In fact, it will be somewhat louder to the shooter than without one. Whether on an ag, Pb, or Artillery.
For the simple fact that not all of the forward shock wave is still going stright away from the muzzle, but rather being directed to the sides. I.E. closer to the shooter.
Knife
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FWIW: I have always referred to the muzzle shroud spacer as the air striper, and call the breech side, the shroud spacer. ::) Many others have too. There is a small reduction to the ID just past the holes. Regardless, I think we are all on the same page now, with what the OP is talking about.
Aluminum replacements did seem to be more common a few years ago. Many looked to that to try to solve fluctuating poi issues. The ones I've used (mostly Prods), didn't reduce the sound any noticeable amount. My theory is, regardless of the amount of holes to flow air and the effectiveness of the "striper" the shroud volume is the limiting factor.
With the aluminum air striper/spacer, you do need to Loctite it to the barrel. They usually had a different length then the oem, and with Gen 1, had to mod one of the baffles length. That should be within the Gen 2 shroud spring compression range, so that shouldn't be needed. I also remember having some o-ring and spacing issues to the shroud. Basically, you are making a precise tolerance part that is going between two less precise crosman parts. ;)
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FWIW: I have always referred to the muzzle shroud spacer as the air striper, and call the breech side, the shroud spacer. ::) Many others have too. There is a small reduction to the ID just past the holes. Regardless, I think we are all on the same page now, with what the OP is talking about.
Aluminum replacements did seem to be more common a few years ago. Many looked to that to try to solve fluctuating poi issues. The ones I've used (mostly Prods), didn't reduce the sound any noticeable amount. My theory is, regardless of the amount of holes to flow air and the effectiveness of the "striper" the shroud volume is the limiting factor.
With the aluminum air striper/spacer, you do need to Loctite it to the barrel. They usually had a different length then the oem, and with Gen 1, had to mod one of the baffles length. That should be within the Gen 2 shroud spring compression range, so that shouldn't be needed. I also remember having some o-ring and spacing issues to the shroud. Basically, you are making a precise tolerance part that is going between two less precise crosman parts. ;)
Thanks for that bit of info. With this air stripper, I won't be running any baffles with a shorter shroud and an LDC. Hopefully, the combo is what I'm looking for.
Peter
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Thanks for that bit of info. With this air stripper, I won't be running any baffles with a shorter shroud and an LDC. Hopefully, the combo is what I'm looking for.
I have a "short" mrod (air tube 4" shorter) that I do something similar. The stock 20" 25 cal barrel has only one baffle pass the striper/spacer. So it can be short and loud, or with LDC, about as quiet as a fully shrouded one, with a length similar to oem.
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Thanks for that bit of info. With this air stripper, I won't be running any baffles with a shorter shroud and an LDC. Hopefully, the combo is what I'm looking for.
I have a "short" mrod (air tube 4" shorter) that I do something similar. The stock 20" 25 cal barrel has only one baffle pass the striper/spacer. So it can be short and loud, or with LDC, about as quiet as a fully shrouded one, with a length similar to oem.
See, great minds think alike. Lol.
Peter