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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => European/Asian Air Gun Gates => Turkish AirGun Gate => Topic started by: SteveP-52 on July 02, 2017, 09:07:18 PM
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I bought a 2nd one back about a month and a half or so ago and finally got a chance between work, house chores and a 2nd Mod 95 stock I'm trying to get refinished, finally got it outside with pellets and chrony, sooo....
-H&N Baracuda 13.58gr: 694 average, ES 22, SD 6, 14.53 fpe
-Benji Dome 14.3gr: 666 average, ES 27, SD 8, 14.09 fpe
-JSB King 13.73gr: 715 average, ES 10, SD 2, 15.59 fpe
-H&N FTT 11.42gr: 773 average, ES 19, SD 5, 15.16 fpe
This one shoots right about 50 fps slower than the first one I bought across the range of pellets I used and not honestly worried about it as the plans are to tear down and tune both at some point and maybe even gas ram one of them.
Amazon still has a few of these left at $99.99 if anyone is still considering an inexpensive .20 caliber. I'm not sorry I grabbed a 2nd one while they still had some and because I just checked, 7 left in black and 2 in green...
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Yeah I grabbed as second one in May. do you know where to get the adapters for a gas ram? thinking of doing one in a Crosman ram.
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That's the same FPE I got from my HW97K .20 out of the box.
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Cole, I never looked into the Crosman conversion so not a clue where to get adapters or what's even needed.
Stefan, I'm happy with the numbers I initially got and like I mentioned, the first one I got shoots roughly 50 fps faster with each of the pellets I tried, now I just need a good day to test the accuracy part of both rifles and the Weather Channel says tomorrow should be sunny and only 5-10 mph winds so we'll see....
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If you do your part, I'm sure it will be accurate.
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I have no idea how fast mine is shooting but it packs a punch. I watched them for about a month before buying a black one (number eight). The green are selling faster though I don`t remember how many there were. If I had the funds I`d buy another because mine is a solidly built gun. I would like to tune it at some point to see how much smoother I can make it. It cocks nicely but even though it has quieted down some it still makes one heck of a twang.
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Good luck. I'm guessing with the .20 cal and those heavy 16mm barrels that it should be accurate.
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I have no idea how fast mine is shooting but it packs a punch. I watched them for about a month before buying a black one (number eight). The green are selling faster though I don`t remember how many there were. If I had the funds I`d buy another because mine is a solidly built gun. I would like to tune it at some point to see how much smoother I can make it. It cocks nicely but even though it has quieted down some it still makes one heck of a twang.
I think they got a long spring with a lot of coils that leads to the twang.
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I put mine in a Hatsan Stryker S stock and did the longer screw on the trigger. I haven't gotten to tuning it yet. It's on the "to do" list.
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I would love to do the wood stock. All these black guns are starting to look the same to me.
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I bought mine in green. I chopped a Hatsan 1000s and put it in the green stock. I love that "carbine". Top is the Webley in the Hatsan stock and bottom is the chopped 1000s "carbine".
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One of my favorite features of the Webley is the length so I really like the looks of the 1000s chopped like that. Does that make it a lot harder to cock?
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i been thinking of getting one but only if i can convert to Nitro piston or vortex.
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One of my favorite features of the Webley is the length so I really like the looks of the 1000s chopped like that. Does that make it a lot harder to cock?
I cut the spring a bit.
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I would love to do the wood stock. All these black guns are starting to look the same to me.
If yours has the 2 piece cocking arm like mine, you can put it in a wood Striker stock but you'll have to modify the inside of the stock for the roller on that cocking arm. You might also check the build date on the side of yours as both mine were built way back in 2011. I figured for being that old, they'd be on the dry side inside but they don't seem to be as, although both have twang, it's not all that bad. Everythng on both seems pretty smooth and the first one the twang has slowly faded on the more I shot it and I need to to try the FTT's in it as I didn't have those when I ran the chrony numbers on it.
Lead...they can be converted, the gun is basically a Hatsan Edge/Striker/1000 rifle with a .20 cal barrel so the Vortex rams from those rifles will fit in it.
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Steve, Is that the first four numbers in the serial-1211=Dec of 2011? Mine was anything but dry except the stock screws had just a hint of rust on them. I had read they were in storage somewhere so I just cleaned them up.
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If those first 4 numbers are 12 11, then yep, the build date is December of 2011. The first one I got is, the 2nd was built 07 11 so they've definitely been stored quite awhile.
I also didn't mind much because I planned on tuning both at some point anyway as I already have everything here to do the job, just depends on whether I want to use Vortek or ARH seals...I have both in the tool box.
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Your FPS numbers are good & will probably ease up a little higher after it has been shot some more. I put a Hatsan Stryker wood stock on mine, after the tip of the forearm broke off. Made it a fine looking rifle. I won't be doing anything more to mine since it is powerful & accurate as it is. ONE NOTE ; Mine is more accurate if firmly held, like you are shooting a high powered rifle. ENJOY !!
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LOL..... it's just weird seeing you talk about a springer..... well, at least it's .20 cal.
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LOL..... it's just weird seeing you talk about a springer..... well, at least it's .20 cal.
There may not be any hope for me !!
I will always prefer my Sheridans over " TWANGERS !"
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are these webley's threaded barrel tip ?
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I asked other owners in another thread I posted on the Valuemax rifles to chime in with when theirs were built trying to sort out when Hatsan changed the cocking arms in the rifles from the 2 piece to 1 piece style but no one chimed in.
It's why I asked Rick when his was built because if his has the 2 piece cocking arm like both mine do, the inside of the Striker stock would have to be modified so the roller on the 2nd part of the cocking arm has a place to fit inside the stock. The newer style rifles with the 1 piece cocking arms will drop right in like my Spector did, which was built 11 14. It made me wonder when they changed them and why I asked owners who said they put theirs in Striker stocks to chime in and post when theirs were built to maybe sort out when Hatsan made the change but no one did.
Here's a couple pics of that roller which is nothing more than a plastic tube on a metal pin on the cocking arm but a Striker stock would need to have some wood taken out of it to make room for that.
And no Lead, they don't have threaded barrel tips like the Tomahawks. At least on mine, the moderator actually does nothing more than give you a cocking grip for your hand and a place for the front fiber optic sight. The end of the barrel is actually about a 1/4 of an inch or so inside it but both mine are still more than quiet enough to be backyard friendly. I have moderated rifles that are actually louder than both my .20's.
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Reason I asked about a conversion to a gas ram Steve is that a Crosman ram will fit no problem into , I was wondering about the difference in the parts between a ram and spring is all. Both of mine have a 2 piece cocking arm made 12-11, and they will fit right into my Striker 1000 stock, ( like Bill did), as they have the required ledge for the roller to sit on. As far as the twang goes, I did a tune on mine and put a stock Crosman spring in it from an Optimus. Can't tell much difference in power with that spring, shoots smoother, does not jar you as bad, and no twang now, and more accurate. Just so people know, if you haven't popped yours out of the stock yet. The roller is not attached to the spindle on the cocking arm and is prone to falling off when you pull it out of the stock, unlike Crosman/Benjamin type rifles.
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Here's the pic I took of my Edge .177 Vortex when I took it apart, it's just the piston, gas ram and end cap and there's a round extension on the end cap that matches up to the indent in the end of the gas ram to hold it in place.
If memory serves, the only difference between the spring and gas ram versions is the spring guide has that same indent to match up to the end cap. Only thing I can think of you'd have to look for is the pre-drilled hole on the inside of the piston that the end of the ram arm sits in.
My Edge stocks all have that ledge and I have a spare sitting here if need be but the wood stocks don't have it, not that it would stop me from buying and modifying one if I get the itch and it wouldn't be the first Striker stock I've done stuff to.
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Thanks for the pics Steve. I think almost all their synthetic stocks have a provision for the roller. I think if there is still one of those left next month I might buy another just to mess with, ( gas ram, shorten barrel for more FPS, tune). I kept the second one I have all stock, kinda want one just as it came from the factory ha ha . Only mod I did on it was epoxied some washers in the fore arm holes to reinforce them. (I do that on all my break barrels now as wood compresses and plastic cracks).