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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Janteau1 on June 25, 2017, 02:20:59 PM
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Frustrated with my Condor SS! Everytime I fill tge tank, it's like I am shooting it for the first time ! I get 1/2" groups @ 50 yds, then the next day get 1 1/2"@ 50yds. Might sell it.
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scope or loose screws somewhere......maybe ;)
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I don't know anything about Airforce guns but I do know about the frustration you are going through.
I'd say break it down into a list of variables. What's different today and yesterday.
Consider things like air pressure, time of day. what pellet, wind, your mood (yes attitude at the time)
One thing that causes this sort of thing (ask me how I know) is your scope. Make sure screws are the correct tension. Have you tried another scope? If not I would.
I don't know what brand pellet you're using but try something different.
I've heard Airforce guns are hold sensitive. I don't know that it's just something I read. That makes it something to consider. Who knows.
Does another shooter get the same results? Just wondering.....
Things to think about. Good luck my friend. Let us know what you find. I'm sure there are some AF shooters that will chime in and give you some good advice...
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I went through about a year period of wrestling with my Condor. I may have went overboard on fixing it but it's solid and shoots great now. For starters, I had a scope that just wasn't suited to the gun. I finally bought an inexpensive adjustable objective scope and new mounts. I also suspected frame flex... bought the WOKgaurd (best thing I ever did). The final thing that I think was the culprit... I was just shooting it too fast. I would get it shooting great at one distance, then it would be randomly off at another distance. The guys here convinced me it was "spiraling badly". It was, I took it out at night and held a flashlight under it and shot it and could witness it sprialing. I tuned it down really low and started shooting groups off a bi-pod. I slowly bumped the power up until I got to 30-35 fpe. It's a .22 18" brl. I was watching a lot of the youtube (tofazfou etc.. and wanting big power pffttt... 32 fpe is more power than I need even). I did end up ditching the soundloc cups and using an LDC. My accuracy issues are gone now. My rifle certainly could yield more power and it's nice to have that option. I have it set up real nice right now and struggle not to "tinker" with it. They are remarkable guns and I feel your pain right now. I cursed my Condor openly on the forums for a few months. I am sure I will have another fight with it.. just like a real relationship.. it will pass. Someday I hope to get a more traditional rifle but I will keep my Condor.
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First I 'd check for a slow leak. I had the same problem when I have a very slow leaking valve. I would shoot 3 shots to make sure it held zero (I use my Condors only for hunting, not target shooting) and put the gun away. A week later I 'd shoot another 3 shots and the POI would be off by 1/2" or more at 30yds. So my groups were different from day to day, similar to yours, but I quickly discovered when I went to refill it that the pressure was too low for the # of shots I had taken and confirmed the leak.
If there are no leaks, check the shroud if you have an aftermarket one. I also had a similar problem with groups shifting 1"-2" when the pellets were clipping the shroud. If the screw is loose or too tight it will do exactly that and give you erratic groups. It just needs to be snug and not too tight. Reinstall the shroud, or loosen the screw(s) and retighten just in case.
A few Condors will also shift the groups if you tighten the factory/stock forend too much and drive you crazy. It's best to just barely have that forend touching the frame, or put it on almost "loosely" - if you have one of those guns. Can always get a larger 1 piece aftermarket stock which are known to fix this problem.
If none of the above are the issue, throw a different scope on it and let us know who it goes.
Harry
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Check the screws that hold barrel in place. I had issues with mine coming loose and shooting very erratic. Checking scope would be good idea too. Good luck!