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Support Equipment For PCP/HPA/CO2 and springers ,rams => Optics, Range estimation & related subjects => Topic started by: RAJOD on June 24, 2017, 10:25:17 PM
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Seems to be slim pickens for 30mm rings in medium height. BLK in theory should center better on 11mm dovetail. Found 1 ring ones for 28.00.
What 30 mm rings would you use on a PCP with say a SWFA scope?
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How about Millett Angle Loc rings?
https://www.amazon.com/Millett-Angle-Loc-Windage-Adjustable-Tip-Off/dp/B003R6N3L2 (https://www.amazon.com/Millett-Angle-Loc-Windage-Adjustable-Tip-Off/dp/B003R6N3L2)
They also come in a high version. They are a little tougher to align but work great, especially in real shallow grooved dovetails.
Taso
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I'm a personal fan of the ones I have on my pcp and all the rest of my air rifles for that matter: Hawke Reach Forward Match Mounts. They come in dovetail, weaver, 1 inch and 30mm tube sizes and with not a lot of room for mounting on top of my Galatian, they let me get the Hawke Airmax 30SF 3-9x50 where I wanted it.
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How about Millett Angle Loc rings?
https://www.amazon.com/Millett-Angle-Loc-Windage-Adjustable-Tip-Off/dp/B003R6N3L2 (https://www.amazon.com/Millett-Angle-Loc-Windage-Adjustable-Tip-Off/dp/B003R6N3L2)
They also come in a high version. They are a little tougher to align but work great, especially in real shallow grooved dovetails.
Taso
Thanks taso I read the reviews and some people said they should have gone with Burress. These rings for finish and fitting quality.
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I'm a personal fan of the ones I have on my pcp and all the rest of my air rifles for that matter: Hawke Reach Forward Match Mounts. They come in dovetail, weaver, 1 inch and 30mm tube sizes and with not a lot of room for mounting on top of my Galatian, they let me get the Hawke Airmax 30SF 3-9x50 where I wanted it.
Thanks for the info and photo.
Question- what is that knob sticking out of the eyepiece end used for?
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Adjustment knob for the illuminated reticle..also came with a side wheel and sunshade I haven't put on the scope at least for now.
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Adjustment knob for the illuminated reticle..also came with a side wheel and sunshade I haven't put on the scope at least for now.
For the money these don't look too bad.
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Rajod,
From what I can find the Burris Zee rings are for weaver not for 11mm or 3/8 dovetail. Burris does have dovetail rings but I haven't seen a 30mm version.
Taso
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Search UTG dovetail to weaver adapter. Well made adapters that fit inside the Weaver (or Picatinny I believe) rings to adapt them to dovetail rails. PyramidAir had them for about $10 a few months back. I always keep a few pairs sitting around-they work great.
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Rajod,
From what I can find the Burris Zee rings are for weaver not for 11mm or 3/8 dovetail. Burris does have dovetail rings but I haven't seen a 30mm version.
Taso
These are interesting, suppose to fit 11mm dovetail better. And you can tilt them, which I guess would be useful in some situations. I don't see any way for them to be adjusted if the dovetail is off a little from the barrel.
http://www.airgundepot.com/fx-airguns-no-limit-scope-mount-30-mm-dovetail.html (http://www.airgundepot.com/fx-airguns-no-limit-scope-mount-30-mm-dovetail.html)
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Ted seems hyped about them check the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOj78x2EflI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOj78x2EflI)
Probably only good for people wanting to shoot at 100+ yards which is not me.
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BKL-374 0.6" Long Offset Dovetail Rings or BKL-300 0.6" Long Dovetail Rings. Both are self centering.
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I haven't used the FX mounts but I have a couple sets of the SportsMatch elevation and windage adjustable mounts. They allow you to optically center your scope and zero almost entirely with the mounts if desired (you can get it within just a few clicks with the mounts). Not cheap but they work extremely well and held zero on my Diana 460.
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I haven't used the FX mounts but I have a couple sets of the SportsMatch elevation and windage adjustable mounts. They allow you to optically center your scope and zero almost entirely with the mounts if desired (you can get it within just a few clicks with the mounts). Not cheap but they work extremely well and held zero on my Diana 460.
I use the FX No-Limit 30mm Mounts, and as quoted they are fantastic. As noted, after centering your scope, you sight in using the mounts, then a click or two and you are zeroed. Especially useful if you are going out to 100 yards or more. Airgun Depot has them cheap for $75.00.
Pappy / Allan
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I use UTG's quick release rings, more than enough strength for any pcp and priced to fit your budget.
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I use it for all my airguns, good enough esp on PCP. I'll spend more on the powder burners
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I use utg for all my airguns, good enough esp on PCP. I'll spend more on the powder burners
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Alan, are the FX mounts windage adjustable as well or only elevation adjustable? I haven't used them on anything but thought they were elevation only.
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I use it for all my airguns, good enough esp on PCP. I'll spend more on the powder burners
Mr. Tooth, you say "I'll use it for all my airguns"
What do you mean by "it"? which ring?
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I've used these to good effect on my Hatsan 95QE in l.25 when I was finding The Pellet: Linky (https://www.amazon.com/30mm-Medium-Profile-Airgun-Rings/dp/B001WJ4W2U/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1498830139&sr=8-8&keywords=30mm+scope+rings+medium)
and I have a pair of these cuz I'm a cheap SOB and they work great on guns with minimal recoil (used on both my Savage Mk2 and my QB 79) > Cheapo rings (https://www.amazon.com/LVLING-Rings-High-Dovetail-See-Thru/dp/B015RI4XE8/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1498830240&sr=8-10&keywords=11mm+dovetail+scope+rings)
And these were on my PP700 up until recently (now using a red-dot):
Generic Rings that WORK (https://www.amazon.com/Generic-Dovetail-Profile-Scope-Mount/dp/B01ARFOERW/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&qid=1498830240&sr=8-20&keywords=11mm+dovetail+scope+rings)
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I've used these to good effect on my Hatsan 95QE in l.25 when I was finding The Pellet: Linky (https://www.amazon.com/30mm-Medium-Profile-Airgun-Rings/dp/B001WJ4W2U/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1498830139&sr=8-8&keywords=30mm+scope+rings+medium)
and I have a pair of these cuz I'm a cheap SOB and they work great on guns with minimal recoil (used on both my Savage Mk2 and my QB 79) > Cheapo rings (https://www.amazon.com/LVLING-Rings-High-Dovetail-See-Thru/dp/B015RI4XE8/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1498830240&sr=8-10&keywords=11mm+dovetail+scope+rings)
And these were on my PP700 up until recently (now using a red-dot):
Generic Rings that WORK (https://www.amazon.com/Generic-Dovetail-Profile-Scope-Mount/dp/B01ARFOERW/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&qid=1498830240&sr=8-20&keywords=11mm+dovetail+scope+rings)
Thanks! I ordered the UTG you had listed, got them for 11.00 free ship on prime.
can't beat that price and UTG products are usually decent. Its an air gun so they don't really need to be beefy like on a center fire. I can always upgrade later if need.
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I use it for all my airguns, good enough esp on PCP. I'll spend more on the powder burners
Mr. Tooth, you say "I'll use it for all my airguns"
What do you mean by "it"? which ring?
[/quoteI use it for all my airguns, good enough esp on PCP. I'll spend more on the powder burners
Mr. Tooth, you say "I'll use it for all my airguns"
What do you mean by "it"? which ring?
Corrected below ,Utg. Dang phone always likes to replace my words
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I also use UTG on some powder burners that have low recoil like my SR762 and AR15, they have a beefy 6 screw ring, but on my Howa 1500 30-06 I use Warne Rings, it stripped the original rings that came with it, I replaced the Nikko game king scope with a Millet and Warne rings, much better Steel ring.
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Alan, are the FX mounts windage adjustable as well or only elevation adjustable? I haven't used them on anything but thought they were elevation only.
Just elevation. I have found that after I adjust for moving out to 100 yards ... being zeroed for 50 yards ..... if I have to move the windage at all, it is just a few clicks away from adjustment. The best advantage of any adjustable mount, is that you are always using your scope almost perfectly centered. Many shooters trying to "click" there way into zero, run their scopes too much toward the top end range of their horizontal adjustment, causing the scope to be very unstable from shot to shot .... changes in POI occur, causing groups to spread out and your zero not holding.
Pappy / Allan
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Alan, are the FX mounts windage adjustable as well or only elevation adjustable? I haven't used them on anything but thought they were elevation only.
Just elevation. I have found that after I adjust for moving out to 100 yards ... being zeroed for 50 yards ..... if I have to move the windage at all, it is just a few clicks away from adjustment. The best advantage of any adjustable mount, is that you are always using your scope almost perfectly centered. Many shooters trying to "click" there way into zero, run their scopes too much toward the top end range of their horizontal adjustment, causing the scope to be very unstable from shot to shot .... changes in POI occur, causing groups to spread out and your zero not holding.
Pappy / Allan
Yes very good points Pappy!
I too have been guilty of cranking my scopes adjustments on springers that had droop. Much better to get it close via rings first then fine tune with turrets.