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Airguns by Make and Model => Hatsan Airguns => Topic started by: dmiller on June 17, 2017, 12:17:49 PM
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Ok. So I am looking at potentially getting a Hatsan 95 in .25 cal but I got a question. Is the extra money worth spending to get the vortex gas piston? Will it perform better? Also, is it worth spending the extra money to get the QE version silencer? Iv'e heard that if you go with the QE version, when cocking the barrel you aren't supposed to grab the silencer- however, this seems to give you a very limited amount of room to break the barrel. Is it worth the extra hassle? Thanks :D
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I have a 95QE and love it. The silencer is an intagrel part of the barrel and I use it every time I cock the gun. IMO it was well worth the money.
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I have a QE barrel but it's on a Model 87 .177 Vortex. I've yanked on that thing over 600 times now with not single issue, the QE part does help moderate the noise a little better than the standard moderator and the Vortex gas ram makes shooting one a bit easier as the recoil from a gas ram is straight back and forth and no twisting, unlike the spring versions which twist and torque around inside while that spring is uncoiling.
My usual lame 2 cents but spend the extra and get the Vortex and QE.
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I don't own a Vortex powered gun, but I own two Crosman NPs and two Hatsan springers. Steel springs are usually good for a little more velocity, but in my opinion that is really the only advantage to steel coil springs. My NPs have zero "rotational torque" from the shot cycle, and are quieter mechanically (than my tuned steel spring piston guns). My understanding of the Votex is that it is rebuildable and adjustable, though I have no experience with it. I would suggest you go for it. My next Hatsan will likely be a Vortex powered one.
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Gas pistons tend to be much smoother and pleasant to shoot out of the box. I have a 95 springer, but I'd have picked the Vortex if I had a choice.
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Thanks for the advice. I think I would probably at least go with the Vortex- however, i kinda like guns with noise. (: Just my opinion. Thanks
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IMHO, gas pistons are far superior to springs due to their faster and vibration-free shot cycle.
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Having both the standard moderator on my Model 95 and the QE on my Model 87, there is a small difference in the report when firing, but even the standard moderator isn't that loud and like Whirly said, the gas rammed rifles have a way smoother shot cycle which helps with the accuracy end of things.
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the Vortex can be refilled if you get a fill probe from what i read.
they also outlast a spring that looses coil strength after 2 yrs.. especially if you leave it cocked overnight oops!
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Thanks. That's some good advice. I would definitely go with the Vortex.
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I have 2 hatsan's, a 135 QE Vortex and a Striker 1000 vortex.
I have been glad I went with the vortex on both.
Shot cycle is clean, smooth, accuracy is not hard to find. I suspect they are less fussy about hold.
I do have a Chinese B-3 which is steel and that thing is LOUD. I mean twanging, torquing, twisting slam bam every which way but loose.
The 135 is a beast, and you know when you let it loose. But it is much smoother than the lower powered B-3.
The striker is just a joy to shoot. Still breaking it in, accuracy is improving with every group.
Just waiting to see how good it will get.
For my money, I won't buy steel spring again. Vortex all the way.
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Let me say that I really like my Hatsan 95 Vortex in .22. :D
The Quattro 30 degree trigger pull takes some getting used too..... :o
But my gas ram powered gun, slaps me in the face when I shoot it. Then it rolls over on its left side.
No "spring torque" from the gas ram, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? >:(
-Y
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Yogi: RECOIL from a Gas Ram, yes. Rotational torque, should be no. If your Gas Ram equipped gun is punching you in the face due to the stock pivoting towards you during the shot cycle, there may be something wrong with that gun.
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Yogi: RECOIL from a Gas Ram, yes. Rotational torque, should be no. If your Gas Ram equipped gun is punching you in the face due to the stock pivoting towards you during the shot cycle, there may be something wrong with that gun.
This really sounds like it might be the case. I'd get the gun checked out.
-Whirly
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Let me say that I really like my Hatsan 95 Vortex in .22. :D
The Quattro 30 degree trigger pull takes some getting used too..... :o
But my gas ram powered gun, slaps me in the face when I shoot it. Then it rolls over on its left side.
No "spring torque" from the gas ram, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? >:(
-Y
If this were a women you were talking about I'd say she doesn't like ya ;D
Maybe just maybe that Hatsan doesn't like you and you should send it to me to see if it likes me better ?
I have the Hatsan 95 22caliber in vortex and spring an neither one has slapped me in the face. I love them back as much as they love me ;D
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do all hatsan vortex have the gas piston rod pushing the air piston?
not like crosman NP with piston in the actual air piston with rod pushing on the rear cap.. which is extra weight i believe
(whats heavier.. the nitro piston or the rod in the piston??)
makes me think of drilling the air piston in my crosman's lots to lighten it.
i find the Phoenix NP2 has more kick than the Fire NP. partly because slightly bigger piston i think.
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Well, I got the exact gun your want (to the OP)- a 95QE in .25- and mine loves Polymags. Yeah, a tin of .25 Polys ain't cheap, but I plink with them and I plug squirrels and sometimes English House Sparrows with them. Still way cheaper than 22LR and I can shoot in my backyard.
Very smooth shooter- has a nice thump to it, and it is quite a bit quieter than my Slavia 634 which shoots at less than half the power.
I'll put it this way- my 95QE was worth every cent I paid and more... Enough to where I'll eventually get the 135 in .30