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Airguns by Make and Model => Diana Airguns => Topic started by: moeb74 on March 27, 2017, 12:11:58 PM
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Im new to this but from reading online and all, I see that I should get a drooper mount first off. I found this one from UTG:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007IHQJN0/ref=crt_ewc_title_srh_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007IHQJN0/ref=crt_ewc_title_srh_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)
Then I need a set of rings. Any suggestions on that? Not sure on the height, maybe 1" or a LOW ring?
Lastly, Im going to want a scope that can focus close about 10-12 yards. Mil-dots would be nice. So any suggestions there as well?
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Need more info. What are you going to do with your 34? What is your budget?
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This is what I mounted on my D34:
UTG drooper mount
Low profile UTG weaver rings (30 mm)
UTG Leapers 3-13X44mm Accushot SWAT scope (30 mm tube)
80 mm focus wheel
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If you have a newer Diana 34 with the T06 trigger that is the correct adapter. If you have an older Diana 34 (T01 or T05) that adapter will be less than satisfactory.
Not all Diana 34 rifles have droop. Mine doesn't.
The rings you choose will depend upon the scope you choose. A larger objective will require higher mounts. The height gained by the adapter will generally reduce the required mount height.
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The pellet rifle is for pest control. How can I determine if the rifle has droop or not? I dont want to get it setup then have to take it back apart, buy this and that later on because I found out it has droop. I hate doing things twice if I can help it...
The Diana 34 is going to be a current production one, Im going to purchase it here shortly.
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This is what I mounted on my D34:
UTG drooper mount
Low profile UTG weaver rings (30 mm)
UTG Leapers 3-13X44mm Accushot SWAT scope (30 mm tube)
80 mm focus wheel
This here? : https://www.pyramydair.com/product/utg-3-12x44-ao-swat-accushot-rifle-scope-ez-tap-illuminated-mil-dot?a=3493 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/utg-3-12x44-ao-swat-accushot-rifle-scope-ez-tap-illuminated-mil-dot?a=3493)
Is there an advantage to a 30mm tube versus 1" Id assume more light transmission/clearer picture?
Any suggestions on a 1" tube, or should I stay 30mm?
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This is what I mounted on my D34:
UTG drooper mount
Low profile UTG weaver rings (30 mm)
UTG Leapers 3-13X44mm Accushot SWAT scope (30 mm tube)
80 mm focus wheel
This here? : https://www.pyramydair.com/product/utg-3-12x44-ao-swat-accushot-rifle-scope-ez-tap-illuminated-mil-dot?a=3493 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/utg-3-12x44-ao-swat-accushot-rifle-scope-ez-tap-illuminated-mil-dot?a=3493)
Is there an advantage to a 30mm tube versus 1" Id assume more light transmission/clearer picture?
Any suggestions on a 1" tube, or should I stay 30mm?
You will not know if your gun has droop until you scope it and shoot it.
I have both 1 in and 30mm scopes, I can really tell no difference.
I have the same drooper mount on my 34 with low rings, 3-12X44 scope and about 1/2 in clearance between scope and gun.
That scope will come with medium height weaver rings I think.
Low 30mm rings are hard to find.
I like glass etched reticles, they are usually thinner than wire reticles.
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30mm scopes are heavier. As are scopes with very high magnification.
You don't need a huge heavy scope to shoot rats, squirrels, pigeons and whatnot at 25 or 30 yards.
If you're shooting in the dark, then a larger objective might help with more light transmission.
But unless you're a competive target shooter, or are shooting at small targets past 40 yards, you really won't gain an advantage with anything larger than a 3-9x40 scope. And many less expensive scopes with high magnification aren't clear at the higher settings anyway.
If you want to spend a little bit of money on a scope, I highly recommend going somewhere like Academy and looking through the various scopes they have in different magnifications and price ranges and set them on the highest settings just to see what the difference in clarity is between brand names and models.
They might not have a huge selection of adjustable objective or side focus scopes, but there will be quite a few.
I suggest Academy Sports because they have most of their scopes mounted on rifle stocks where you can just walk up and look through just about every one in the store. They'll have 30 or 40 mounted like this.
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Here's a picture of a 4-12x40AO scope mounted in medium rings on my Ruger Blackhawk Elite, which not counting the stock, is a clone of the RWS Diana 34.
There is very little clearance between the objective and the compression tube, near 1/8". And that's the way I like it.
To be honest, the scope makes the rifle heavier than it needs to be. The scope, even with lightweight aluminum rings, weighs north of 20 ounces.
But I got it at a pawn shop for $40. And because I only use it for informal benchrest target shooting at 40 to 60 yards, I tolerate it.
A scope this size may be OK for your needs. But for me, the extra weight makes it more difficult to shoot free hand.
The rifle alone weighs a few ounces over 7 pounds without a scope.
If the rifle was used solely for hunting and offhand or an impromptu rest was the norm, I'd be far more likely to mount aa much lighter 3-9x32 scope.
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Thanks I think I'll go with a 1" diameter if it's that much lighter...
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Thanks I think I'll go with a 1" diameter if it's that much lighter...
That UTG scope weighs 23 oz, both my Hawke and my Vortex scopes weigh around 17 oz.
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Interesting,
Both in 1" tube?
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I think that BSA 4-12x40AO(1" tube) is listed at 19.something ounces. And then I figured an ounce or so for the rings.
You can find a 3-9x40AO with a 1" tube at around 15 ounces. Some will weigh more.
A 3-9x32AO can be around 13 ounces or even less.
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Oh, and heads up.
Midway has both the plastic and wood stock 34 Pro Compact on sale. And it comes with a scope.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/496074/rws-34-meisterschutze-pro-compact-break-barrel-air-rifle-177-caliber-pellet-wood-stock-blue-barrel-with-rws-airgun-scope-3-9-x-40mm-matte (https://www.midwayusa.com/product/496074/rws-34-meisterschutze-pro-compact-break-barrel-air-rifle-177-caliber-pellet-wood-stock-blue-barrel-with-rws-airgun-scope-3-9-x-40mm-matte)
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/556814/rws-pro-34-p-compact-break-barrel-air-rifle-177-caliber-pellet-synthetic-stock-blue-barrel-with-airgun-scope-3-9x-40mm-matte (https://www.midwayusa.com/product/556814/rws-pro-34-p-compact-break-barrel-air-rifle-177-caliber-pellet-synthetic-stock-blue-barrel-with-airgun-scope-3-9x-40mm-matte)
I doubt they'll need a dropped mount.
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Good price but I'm after the .22 variant but it doesn't come in the compact...
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Make very sure that your scope has an Adjustable Objective! ;) Very Important!
Next thing which I like is a reticle that you can use to range find. If you can spend $180, many people here like the Nikon Prostaff EFR. It has a non-range finding reticle, but superb optics.
Let us know what you decide....
-Y
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Interesting,
Both in 1" tube?
Yes, the Vortex and Hawke scopes have 1in tubes.
My UTG has a 30mm tube, very good scope but heavy at 22.5 oz
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Some have droop(in varying degrees) some don't. I ordered a droop mount for my first 34 and when I got the gun I had to re-order a non droop mount.
This is the lowest set up I have found for the raised rail on a Diana.
For T-06 https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hawke-sport-optics-9mm-11mm-dovetail-to-weaver-rail-7-2?a=5065 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hawke-sport-optics-9mm-11mm-dovetail-to-weaver-rail-7-2?a=5065)
It is adjustable for the amount of droop YOUR gun requires.
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hawke-1-rings-weaver-low-black?a=3427 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hawke-1-rings-weaver-low-black?a=3427)
This will leave about 3/8 inch clearance with a 40mm objective.
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Thanks Jim
I was kind of intersted in the BKL 260D7-Mb mount. Is that a good mount as well?
Also thinking of this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EAI9ICE/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EAI9ICE/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)
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Why not just get the RWS Lock Down Mount? I don't get why anyone would want a converter and then Weaver rings, just seems like more screws to work loose.
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I heard that it slips around and the bkl is best. No?
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It has never moved on my HW97 or TX200. The mount actually has two locking pins instead of the normal one, I assume to line up with holes on RWS recievers.
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Interesting... Maybe I'll have to get that then. I mean it is made by the company for their guns.
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Why not just get the RWS Lock Down Mount? I don't get why anyone would want a converter and then Weaver rings, just seems like more screws to work loose.
What he said. ::)
I own a couple of HW's that require a drooper Mount and I use the RWS lockdown. Clean and simple. They don't move. Even with the stop pins removed. Just make sure there's enough mounting length on the scope because the RWS lockdown Mount is a little longer. It requires I think four and three-quarters inches of tube length between the flares. Keep in mind also that the lockdown Mount is high, so a 50 millimeter objective or 50 millimeter objective we'll look the best. There will be about three sixteenths of an inch clearance between the objective and the gun. I use a Hawke sport IR 4 - 12 by 50 with both of my RWS lock down mounts.