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Airguns by Make and Model => Hatsan Airguns => Topic started by: SSG Grampo on March 15, 2017, 04:56:57 PM

Title: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on March 15, 2017, 04:56:57 PM
HATSAN PROXIMA
14 shot repeater in .177 (4.5mm) , 12 shot repeater in .22 (5.5mm) and 10 shot repeater in .25 (6.35mm) calibers.
Includes 2 detachable clip magazines.
Vortex gas piston power source.
Black chrome finish barrel and cylinder provides maximum corrosion resistance.
Fixed barrel / under lever cocking system.
Quattro Trigger is a 2-Stage fully adjustable match trigger system.
SAS- Shock Absorber System significantly reduces vibration.
Precision rifled steel barrel for accuracy.
Manual safety & automatic cocking safety.
Anti bear-trap cocking arm safety.
Stylish design genuine Turkish walnut ambidextrous stock.
Elevation adjustable comb.
Scope mount rail & shock absorber scope stop.
Gold plated trigger blade.
Micro adjustable rear sight for both windage and elevation with Truglo fiber optics.
Hooded front sight with Truglo fiber optics.
Fitted sling swivels.
Includes 3 stock spacers to extend to stock length.
Includes a free sling and a detachable picatinny rail.

Technical Specs

* Above maximum muzzle velocity figures may differ depending on the pellet weight & shape.
* The energy restrictions of a particular country can be achieved by the reduction in the muzzle velocity. The above maximum velocity figures are obtained when there is no energy restriction on the air rifle.


Elevation adjustable comb.


http://www.hatsan.com.tr/en_new_proxima.html (http://www.hatsan.com.tr/en_new_proxima.html)


WOW! Hatsan's springers are not usually crazy money, I wonder $$$.










Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on March 15, 2017, 05:02:14 PM
Is it available here yet looks very interesting especially of it functions reliably also what is the MSRP going to be ??
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on March 15, 2017, 05:06:53 PM
Don, It was  introduced at the IWA show in Germany. Airgun Depot claims that they most likely will receive the first USA shipment. So I guess  coming soon.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: AHMSA on March 15, 2017, 06:01:58 PM
Thanks for the heads-up.  It looks interesting.  I hope they make a standard stock (no thumb-hole) version.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: nolimit2217 on March 15, 2017, 07:14:45 PM
I'm intrigued.. I like what I'm seeing.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: StevenG on March 15, 2017, 08:06:42 PM
Wow, repeating springers went from nowhere to everywhere in a flash.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: grimeszee on March 15, 2017, 08:12:24 PM
Looks awesome to me
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on March 15, 2017, 08:35:09 PM
This could go to the top of the AFFORDABLE list.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: grimeszee on March 15, 2017, 08:35:58 PM
This could go to the top of the AFFORDABLE list.
+1
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on March 16, 2017, 08:22:24 AM
Anybody have any thoughts of what the cocking effort might be in .177 (gas ram 820 fps)?
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: Yogi on March 16, 2017, 09:23:13 AM
Love the adjustable cheek piece! :-*

Looking at the power levels, it looks comparable to a 95 Vortex.  So I would assume about 30-35 lbs cocking effort.  I am sure that the indexing system may make it a touch higher... ???

-Y
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: lefteyeshot on March 16, 2017, 10:08:45 AM
This is wonderful! The cocking lever release under the front sight must work like a 100x or 155. But where the barrel goes into the receiver and the anti-bear trap release on the right side of the receiver looks like a Dominator. The performance numbers are more like a Dominator than either the 100x or 155.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: grimeszee on March 16, 2017, 10:34:15 AM
This is wonderful! The cocking lever release under the front sight must work like a 100x or 155. But where the barrel goes into the receiver and the anti-bear trap release on the right side of the receiver looks like a Dominator. The performance numbers are more like a Dominator than either the 100x or 155.
I see one in mine and your future Tim. ;) How do you like the Gamo Swarm so far?
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SteveP-52 on March 16, 2017, 10:50:40 AM
So far I haven't had an urge to buy an underlever but the Proxima is one very pretty looking rifle. Shouldn't be too hard to cock one as looking at the fps ratings for the calibers, they're a bit lower than Hatsan's usual 1000 fps in .177, 800 fps in .22 and 650 fps in .25.

Caliber                          4.5 mm / .177 cal   5.5 mm / .22 cal   6.35mm / .25 cal
Max. Muzzle Velocity (*)   250 m/s (820fps)   220 m/s (720fps)   190 m/s (620fps)
Magazine Capacity                     14                             12                              10

Also noticed they're finally adding a Turkish Walnut stock to the Model 87 QE's that comes with an adjustable cheek riser. Kinda wish they's do that with the 95's also:

http://www.hatsan.com.tr/en_new_mod_87w_qe.html (http://www.hatsan.com.tr/en_new_mod_87w_qe.html)
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on March 16, 2017, 12:24:52 PM
Yogi, 30-35 lb cocking effort would be sweet.

Now anyone want to guess on the $

Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: grimeszee on March 16, 2017, 12:26:11 PM
Yogi, 30-35 lb cocking effort would be sweet.

Now anyone want to guess on the $


I'm thinking close to $500
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on March 16, 2017, 01:05:01 PM
Yogi, 30-35 lb cocking effort would be sweet.

Now anyone want to guess on the $


I'm thinking close to $500
My guess $399. Just slightly more than the Gamo Maxium Swarm break barrel multi shot because of the wood stock  ;)
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on March 16, 2017, 04:26:17 PM
I like the $399 lets hope Field Supply stocks it. I got my Hatsan Torpedo 100X for $118 (New not Refurb)from them.
Field Supply if they stock it will have a GREAT SALE PRICE IF YOU CAN WAIT.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: packard8 on March 16, 2017, 05:28:08 PM
I like the $399 lets hope Field Supply stocks it. I got my Hatsan Torpedo 100X for $118 (New not Refurb)from them.
Field Supply if they stock it will have a GREAT SALE PRICE IF YOU CAN WAIT.

The killer price on the 100X Torpedos is due to it being a discontinued model (replaced by the vortex gas ram version). If the new underlever repeater comes in more than $300, Hatsan will be competing with their own PCP's like the AT44. Nice looking rifle tho........
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: lefteyeshot on March 16, 2017, 06:50:15 PM
This is wonderful! The cocking lever release under the front sight must work like a 100x or 155. But where the barrel goes into the receiver and the anti-bear trap release on the right side of the receiver looks like a Dominator. The performance numbers are more like a Dominator than either the 100x or 155.
I see one in mine and your future Tim. ;) How do you like the Gamo Swarm so far?

Yep, gonna' have one of those. It'll be at least $400-500. The Dominator hovers around $350.
It's going to be two hand cocking like the Dominator. I'd like to see a carbine model sans the front sight assembly.

The Swarm's fine. A little light for me. I filled the butt stock full of old pellets. If I had seen this Hatsan repeater first I might have past on the Swarm.

I still have two .22 Mendoza 7 shot break barrel repeaters. I like them also but the Swarm repeater function works 100% Vs. the Mendoza's 85-90%. You have to help the Mexican guns now and then but no big deal.

When I reviewed the Swarm I said I'd have preferred something with a wood stock and all steel barrel. Didn't realize The Turks would respond so fast. I'd almost bet that stock would fit a Dominator.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: grimeszee on March 16, 2017, 07:00:19 PM
I'll buy the swarm off ya. 😆
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: lefteyeshot on March 17, 2017, 12:43:38 AM
I'll buy the swarm off ya. 😆

It's not for sale. I said it's fine and I don't have a Proxima yet. I'll sale you the .25 Norica. or the .20 VMX.

I said wood stock, steel barrel, loose the front sight assembly and rear sight, a carbine version and a springer with sling mounts.

Never mind, it has sling mounts.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on March 26, 2017, 07:50:00 PM
anybody  seen anything new on this rifle?
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: roj on May 13, 2017, 08:02:28 PM
I thought I'd resurrect this thread after lefteyeshot mentioned it in a pm the other day to see if anyone's heard anything.  I called Hatsun and they are not talking.

Also, what would explain the weight of 9.3lbs?  Is it because of the underlever?  ...or the walnut stock?
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: packard8 on May 13, 2017, 08:12:24 PM
I thought I'd resurrect this thread after lefteyeshot mentioned it in a pm the other day to see if anyone's heard anything.  I called Hatsun and they are not talking.

Also, what would explain the weight of 9.3lbs?  Is it because of the underlever?  ...or the walnut stock?

Likely both.....Hatsan builds sturdy rifles and they don't scrimp on the steel or Walnut. The underlever design adds a bit of weight, but their break barrel walnut stock rifles aren't lightweights either.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: 39M on May 13, 2017, 09:24:50 PM
I bet the spring weighs 2 pounds cuz my 100x is a rocket!
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: lefteyeshot on May 14, 2017, 01:46:48 AM
If you saw a 100x, 155 or Dominator you'd see they're built like tanks. The anti- bear trap release lever and the way the barrel attaches to the receiver on the Proxima is similar to the Dominator. Wish they made a carbine version. That front sight is a little big for my taste.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on May 14, 2017, 06:29:07 AM
based on what information is available (820 fps in .177) ,do you think the cocking effort should be less than all of their other underlevers??? Yes,No,Maybe???
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: packard8 on May 14, 2017, 09:27:28 AM
based on what information is available (820 fps in .177) ,do you think the cocking effort should be less than all of their other underlevers??? Yes,No,Maybe???

The 820 FPS rating would put it in the Dominator power plant range. I would assume it would be a bit easier to cock than the Torpedo series underlevers, but that is just a guess.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: grimeszee on May 14, 2017, 09:30:38 AM
Dominators are rated at 1000 fps in the .177 cal. Maybe they are going for a tamer, easy to cock and shoot accurately kinda gun.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on May 14, 2017, 10:49:23 AM
Kevin, I hope your right, that sounds great. I want one already.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: lefteyeshot on May 15, 2017, 08:26:28 AM
The Proxima reminds me of my .177 Dominator carbine. It shoots 800-900 fps. I had a .177 100x and a .22 155 and now I've got the Dominator and a .177 155. They're all two hand cockers.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: grimeszee on May 15, 2017, 11:04:11 AM
I will be receiving My 100X .25 back today, I traded the SMK 208TH back for it.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: lefteyeshot on May 15, 2017, 11:04:49 PM
Don't blame you. I like my Airhawke Elite (208 clone) but a 100x is alot more gun.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: pacoelru on June 07, 2017, 12:29:53 AM
Greetings, I just found this review of the proxima in Youtube, It is not in english but it gaves chrony numbers and groups at 10, 30 and 50 meters

I cannot post links to external sites so I added some spaces in the link, so be carefull when you copy/paste

www. youtube. com / watch?v=KcTPcyDDjA0
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: anti-squirrel on June 09, 2017, 09:29:34 AM
Thank you for the link, Francisco.  Here's the refreshed link  Hatsan Proxima Fun! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcTPcyDDjA0)

14.66 H&Ns at 700 FPS means ~ 16 FPE, and JSB 18.16 @ 670 for 18 FPE.  Makes me want one that much more- very manageable, in the ballpark of my 95QE!
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: pacoelru on June 17, 2017, 11:10:44 PM
In the comments of the video they are saying that the price in Turkey will be around 275 usd! that's tempting
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on June 18, 2017, 08:55:24 AM
Hope to see some reviews soon !
Thanks for posting the price in Turkey, it will be interesting to see how that compares to the price in the USA.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: anti-squirrel on June 19, 2017, 02:13:26 PM
Hope to see some reviews soon !
Thanks for posting the price in Turkey, it will be interesting to see how that compares to the price in the USA.
If costs from a US vendor doesn't rate favorably, we also have the fall-back vendors of Aceros and Krale. 
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on June 19, 2017, 03:10:15 PM
Good point Peter, nice to have a choice .
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: pacoelru on August 19, 2017, 12:03:50 AM
Its ready for pre-order on pyramid air... 399 usd!

Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on August 19, 2017, 08:37:52 AM
Thanks Francisco, I'm heading to the PA website now.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: lefteyeshot on August 20, 2017, 12:46:31 AM
Got to figure where I can get 400 bucks.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on August 20, 2017, 08:24:36 AM
Tim, I'm with you. Looking forward to a review. Hatsan never lists the cocking effort in their specs?
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SteveP-52 on August 20, 2017, 10:55:04 AM
Considering the power ratings they list for the different calibers: 820 in .177, 720 in .22 and 620 in .25, I'd think the cocking effort would be around 30ish pounds??
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: lefteyeshot on August 20, 2017, 01:58:22 PM
It reminds me of a Dominator and that's a two hand cocker.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: sawtoothscream on August 20, 2017, 02:58:32 PM
looks interesting.   
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: frodo9mm on August 23, 2017, 10:28:56 PM
Sexy for sure. Love the stock.

Think I will go with a 25 caliber and use it for small game.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: lefteyeshot on August 30, 2017, 12:19:23 AM
On the Proxima page PA has an est. in stock date of 9/20/17
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on August 30, 2017, 10:29:46 AM
Reviews should be coming soon. Hope it shoots as good as it looks.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on September 20, 2017, 03:41:12 PM
PA was listing this for 9/20 in-stock date, now listing for 10/4 in stock????
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: lefteyeshot on September 23, 2017, 11:18:51 AM
Just ordered a Proxima in .177. With sone discount got it for $370 shipped.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on September 23, 2017, 01:56:15 PM
Tim, can't wait for you to review it. Congrat's.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: B-Roc on September 23, 2017, 03:49:48 PM
I like the looks of The Proxima. I've put 1,000 pellets through the Swarm .177 and love it for fast plinking but it's a bit inconsistent and finicky with pellets.  This looks like a quality alternative.  I'm glad to see more offerings in the repeater, non-pcp category.  Now we just need some quality repeater pistols and carbines.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: lefteyeshot on September 24, 2017, 12:46:58 AM
My Swarm is not working right. The pellets are falling out the front of the mag. or it seems the probe that pushes the pellets into the chamber is then pulling them out a little then they fall out or get mashed. The guns not under warranty since I replaced the trigger with a GRT and replaced the gas ram with a spring. (I don't care for gas ram) I took it off and took it apart but can't see any obvious damage. when I get a chance I'll see if PA or Gamo will sale me the repeater part or fix it for me for a fee. If not I only paid $20 more than a regular Maxxim for it. It'll make a good single shot with a 10 oz GRT trigger. A bud told me the Sentry PCP's had trouble with the first batch of magazine. I wonder if that's the problem with the swarm.

Can't wait to get the Proxima though. It cost to much though be be moddin'.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: pacoelru on September 29, 2017, 07:10:44 PM
There is a new review video on Pyramyd air channel on youtube, I like what I see

Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: TleVta on September 29, 2017, 11:01:30 PM
Pretty cool. Tyler had those JSB's rockin @ 45'.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: lefteyeshot on September 29, 2017, 11:44:44 PM
Very cool video. Makes me want mine sooner. I ordered mine in .177. Can't Wait. Hope it come before our 10/14 fun shoot so I can show it off to my buds. I've got several guns that are hard to cock. Just use both hands and switch hands now and then. Still wish they had a springer version.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: lefteyeshot on October 04, 2017, 09:26:59 PM
Proxima in-stock date now is 10/18/17 at PA
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on November 09, 2017, 02:41:31 PM
looks like all cal .177, 22, 25 all in stock, only 1 left in .177. Should be a lot of reviews soon. I wonder if the cocking effort will be as hard as PA Video claims??
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: lefteyeshot on November 09, 2017, 05:07:06 PM
My .177 Proxima has been shipped. Tracking says it'll be here tomorrow.
Title: Re: another new underlever
Post by: SSG Grampo on November 09, 2017, 07:34:58 PM
Tim, enjoy!!!!