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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: SSG Grampo on March 09, 2017, 04:21:27 PM
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Not much springer news that I could find at the 2017 IWA show in Germany. The Stoeger F40 looks interesting. It has a pop-up mag to load when the underlever is cocked. Nice looking rifle. I don't know much about Stoeger but can't wait to read a review on this rifle. It will be available mid-year.
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http://intl.stoegerairguns.com/es/productos/42-stoeger-f40.html (http://intl.stoegerairguns.com/es/productos/42-stoeger-f40.html)
(http://intl.stoegerairguns.com/media/products/stoeger_stoeger-f40_24568.jpg)
http://intl.stoegerairguns.com/es/productos/42-stoeger-f40.html (http://intl.stoegerairguns.com/es/productos/42-stoeger-f40.html)
looks nice
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Geoffrey, thanks for posting that picture, what a great idea for loading.
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most welcome
I wonder if longer pellets like the polymags would cause an issue.
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Your probably right with that observation.
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Nice looking rifle, just wish they would loose the plastic muzzle contraption.
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If I calculated the specs right at (3.1 kg) 6.5 lbs. This rifle is lighter than most under levers.
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That certainly looks a nice rifle. From the pictures the finish looks very good but it always does in advertising pictures.
Diana 300R has that type of loading port. I vaguely recall something about the Diana port being not absolutely top class. That sort loading port has a name but I can't recall what it is.
Anyway it seems no more complicated than the Gamo revolving breach block and more so than all the steel that moves in a Weihrauch underlever.
The angular trigger guard seems out of place to me but just a minor detail.
Better look for a review from Rick Eusler.
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Sounds like a similar model as the HW 57 to me. Wonder if its another china clone being sold by Stoeger.
Mike
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If it is like the 57...
Pass for me
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If it is like the 57...
Pass for me
Agree
Yet to find a Tap Loader that was accurate ... HW-57's ... Webleys etc .. :P :P
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Well....it just doesn't compare to my B3 LOL
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The F40 looks to be Stoeger's version of a Gamo CF20 or CF30.
If that is so it is essentially an underlever B19.
These underlever guns with pop up loading ports are very convenient to cock and load compared to guns with sliding cylinders.
Their new SSP pistol, the XP4 looks nice and is listed at 42 ozs.
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Their new SSP pistol, the XP4 looks nice and is listed at 42 ozs.
I already got one! my p17!
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I wonder if that pistol is just a p17 copy?
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I wonder if that pistol is just a p17 copy?
I would say yes, just a slicked up copy of a copy.
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any knowledge of price, fps....anyone?
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All that plastic hanging on the end of the barrel, is a deal breaker for me.
Tom
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Need to tell that girl to keep her finger off the trigger when she is chocking the rifle!!!!!!
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That's a good looking rifle.. I'd be keen for the right price.
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These underlever guns with pop up loading ports are very convenient to cock and load compared to guns with sliding cylinders.
Those sliding cylinders scare me to death. They do sometimes get people's thumbs!
When I first got into air rifles, I had been drooling over a Gamo Stutzen. That had a pop up loading port too, though I had forgot about that until now. In the end, I found a refurbished Gamo CFX and really love that rotary breach.
The Gamo CFX/CFR/ACCU rotary breach can be reopened after cocking (and even without cocking, though you have to start the action to get the pressure off the breach first). I would guess that the pop up breaches are mechanically linked to the cocking mechanism, but would actuating the lever again let you open the breach to check for a pellet after it was cocked?
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David, I have the rotary breach on my BSA Polaris. It is a lot safer to use, that's why I was intrigued by this rifle.
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All that plastic hanging on the end of the barrel, is a deal breaker for me.
Tom
Tom I wonder how much of that plastic is removable?
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I think it would be a safe guess to say all of that plastic could come off. Easy enough to make a replacement catch. The only concern would be what the bluing is like under the plastic. They might have made a short cut there.
The other thing apart from the girl with the finger on the trigger in the advertising photos is that the plastic looks to completely cover the crown or perhaps the plastic is actually the crown. That means you can,t see if the steel muzzle is roughly finished.
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Novagun, good points. The price point could forgive a lot.
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All that plastic hanging on the end of the barrel, is a deal breaker for me.
Tom
Tom I wonder how much of that plastic is removable?
Bill, looks like all 1 piece. Problem it contains the under lever detente. You would have to machine something to take its place. That lever dropping down just as you pull the trigger would not be good.
Tom
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Thank you Tom.
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The promotional video on YouTube is interesting to watch. The detente is like a button at the end of the muzzle piece. The pop-up breach isn't geared to the cocking so much as it is released by cocking the lever, from what I saw. You cock the gun and return the lever to the muzzle catch, then you can load the breech and push it in with your fingers. (Now, would pulling the lever again make it pop back out?) The safety is resetable (a video by a French guy named Benoit Leroyer demonstrated that).
Anyway, the plastic at the end might be a smidgen more gracefully done than the Gamo CFX/CFR/ACCU, but I can't tell how solid it is. The front sight appears to be part of the plastic. On my CFX you can take it off.
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This rifle piques my curiosity, I know tap loaders are rarely match accurate, but if this comes in .22 I might give it a go. If they are only gonna do .177 then I'll pass.
Knowing Stoeger, the F40 is almost certainly an upgraded clone of a clone. The muzzle brake on my X10 was actually a bear to get off, so it would be my guess that the plastic is well fitted. Can't wait to see a write up when this comes out.
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anybody seen anything new on this rifle?
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I did FINALLY find Stoeger's english page on it. It looks like it will only be .177 other than that it will come out sometime mid year.
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Austin, thanks for the update.
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Does anyone know what the price will be?
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not yet, if it's going to be available mid-year I would think pricing should be available soon.
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I was on PA's site last night looking for something, and ran across it. They have it listed for 4k.
Tom
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4k, dockey? Did you mean 400 or 4000? That's a lot for what looks like a copy of a hw57 in a suit and tie.
Edit: can you find me a link, to the site? I can't seem to find it on PA
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Austin, I think that was So Jersey humor.
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:-[ wah wah wah... got me I took it literal.
It wouldn't surprise me though, is it just me or have their prices been climbing?
I remember I picked up my x10 for just under 140 or 130 at academy way back when. Now they want ~170 for the same gun with a different stock?
Idk... I'm getting old and crotchety.
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I think this is what you wan't. https://www.pyramydair.com/product/limited-edition-air-arms-rsn70-air-rifle?m=4357 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/limited-edition-air-arms-rsn70-air-rifle?m=4357)
Tom
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Just wen't back and looked. Got two post mixed up. Chalk it up to old age, and brain fart.
As far as I know we don't have a sense of humor in So Jersey. ;)
Tom
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Just like Commiefornia, you HAVE to have a sense of humor, just to live there.
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Lolz it's all good, I got an email about that gun from them. Reminds me of a late 50's corvette paint job.
I do have a question about these tap loaders and their accuracy, I mean, it can't that bad can it?