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Title: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: travelbike on March 08, 2017, 03:41:17 PM
Just saw this in one of the airgun sites.  Multi pump PCP like the FX Independence.
http://www.nova-vista.co/plus/view.php?aid=15 (http://www.nova-vista.co/plus/view.php?aid=15)

Looks very interesting esp if it is a fraction of the fx.


Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: starlingassassin on March 08, 2017, 04:18:16 PM
hmmmmm id be interested in seeing more of this :)   ive been searching but cant find any info about shot count.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: Geoff on March 08, 2017, 04:28:48 PM
Interesting ... depending on the price I could be tempted to try one out in 22 cal
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: lefteyeshot on March 08, 2017, 07:17:24 PM
Only pcp I was interested in was the FX Independence. But that's a lot of money. This might be interesting and the pump handle is kinda' like a palmrest on a target rifle.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: dcorvino on March 08, 2017, 07:30:05 PM
Hi
Here is a photo of it supposedly retails for under $ 400
That's all I have for now

Dave
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: lefteyeshot on March 08, 2017, 07:32:15 PM
Any word on who's going to sale it.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: JamesB on March 08, 2017, 07:54:43 PM
Found this....

http://hardairmagazine.com/news/nova-vista-hp-m1000-multi-pump-pcp-air-rifle/ (http://hardairmagazine.com/news/nova-vista-hp-m1000-multi-pump-pcp-air-rifle/)
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: StevenG on March 08, 2017, 08:37:01 PM
Now that is pretty cool.

Let's hope someone in the US or willing to ship sells them.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: 39M on March 08, 2017, 08:51:29 PM
Looks too big and heavy. The only reason I could think to have something like that would be if you were bushwhacking.

I don't see why someone can't just make a new and improved 5 or 6 pound scoped multi-pump that makes somewhere close to 20 fpe on 10 pumps.
And I don't have to have a mammoth scope. Just a little 2-7x32 or even a 1.75-5x20 would do.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: kcatx on March 08, 2017, 08:59:53 PM
Regulated too!   Interesting!
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: rufus80 on March 08, 2017, 09:30:38 PM
If this comes to the states I will get one at that price point.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: rufus80 on March 08, 2017, 09:38:50 PM
I don't see why someone can't just make a new and improved 5 or 6 pound scoped multi-pump that makes somewhere close to 20 fpe on 10 pumps.
And I don't have to have a mammoth scope. Just a little 2-7x32 or even a 1.75-5x20 would do.
Unfortunately the days of the multipump 1 shot rifle are about gone. All that is left is cheap BB/pellet plastic repeaters. The only ' steel/wood' one is the Benji and they have quality issues.
  The PCP is here to stay and dominate all others. The introduction of the Disco/Maxxius, Kral, Gauntlet etc will just about finish off the high end multipump. Heck, the spring guns that I love aren't seeing much of any innovation. My 2c.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: 39M on March 08, 2017, 09:50:09 PM
I don't know about all that.

Still never see PCP rifles in any store.

They have 392's, and expensive Gamo's, Trail NP2's.

No German springers that I've noticed either though.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: rufus80 on March 08, 2017, 10:18:48 PM
I don't know about all that.

Still never see PCP rifles in any store.

They have 392's, and expensive Gamo's, Trail NP2's.

No German springers that I've noticed either though.

I guess what I meant was the current Benjis are around $180 list. Now add a good way to mount a scope and a redesigned pump/valve that doesn't take Hercules to pump. And if you want it made in America it would cost more than your entry to mid level PCP. Limited market for such a rifle.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: rufus80 on March 08, 2017, 10:22:04 PM
No German springers that I've noticed either though.

Walmart.com sells German rifles, even English ones.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: Rob112o on March 09, 2017, 12:56:57 AM
Found this....

http://hardairmagazine.com/news/nova-vista-hp-m1000-multi-pump-pcp-air-rifle/ (http://hardairmagazine.com/news/nova-vista-hp-m1000-multi-pump-pcp-air-rifle/)
Thanks for the link gives everyone a good size comparison. Based off that pic he's either the smallest Asian dude in the world or that rifle seems impractical for field use. So essentially you have the benefit of not needing support equipment (tank/pump) you just have to have a folding table and stool.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: nolimit2217 on March 09, 2017, 08:14:16 AM
Looks interesting but appears to be the size of a 240G, maybe he's just a small guy.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: 1959 Moggy on March 09, 2017, 09:30:44 PM
  The latest Hard Air Magazine has a pretty good write-up with pictures.  hardairmagazine.com
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: Rob M on March 09, 2017, 10:47:49 PM
A quality  adult pumper is what alot of people have been waiting for including me.. Whatever other features it has are pure bonus.Very cool  many features on the proto, 3 stage pump, dessicant filter, power lo/hi, shroud,
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: lefteyeshot on March 09, 2017, 11:17:25 PM
Power adjustment, side lever and in one pic I saw it has a rotary magazine. Tube looks small. But I don't know much about PCP or pumpers. Wood stock would be nice
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: 39M on March 09, 2017, 11:51:41 PM
I don't know about all that.

Still never see PCP rifles in any store.

They have 392's, and expensive Gamo's, Trail NP2's.

No German springers that I've noticed either though.

I guess what I meant was the current Benjis are around $180 list. Now add a good way to mount a scope and a redesigned pump/valve that doesn't take Hercules to pump. And if you want it made in America it would cost more than your entry to mid level PCP. Limited market for such a rifle.
Yes, I agree. A limited market.

Most people just want an inexpensive air rifle like a 2100, 880, or the more tactical Bear River multi-pump.

I think the 392 & 397 are both really nice, premium multi-pump rifles. Great guns for young hunters with good eyes.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: Florida Grown on March 16, 2017, 05:51:29 AM
  Thats pretty friggin neat! Never heard of any pcp that had option of using a built in pump.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: Ghosth on March 16, 2017, 12:29:46 PM
Wood stock with those features in .20 or .22 and I would bite, and bite hard.

I have had my Sheridan Blue Streak since mid 70's, and it is good mostly. But, its iron sights are not easy on old eyes that have seen too much sun.

Its pump is old school, going high tech 3 stage pump with dessicant, heck ya. If you adjust for inflation that 150$ Blue Streak in the mid 70's would sell for a LOT more now.

That makes a 400$ price point look pretty good to me. Would I ever need to depend on an air rifle like that?  Probably not, but that does not keep me from wanting one or spending money on one.

What else am I going to do with my time and Social Security check? Why not have a few toys and enjoy life?

I am however not a huge fan of composite stocks. I have a few, they have their place.
But they do not satisfy the visual part of the experience.

Where for example my month old Hatsan 135 QE Vortex shines in that area.
Every time I see that gun sitting there I have an urge to pick it up, run my hands over those smooth lines, like fondling a woman, a damm fine one.

Doing so almost always results in the urge to fire a shot or two. But it is triggered by the visual perfection of Turkish Walnut and deep blued steel fitted perfectly together.

Much like a little fondling of a woman may lead to a little game of tickleslap which may lead to other things. Without that visual spark it is just a tool. Like a good cast wrench, functional, solid, well built, won't corrode, rust or deteriorate. But generates no spark, no warmth, no glow.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: lefteyeshot on March 16, 2017, 07:06:19 PM
Well Ghosth wait till you see the new Hatsan underlever 14 shot repeater in it wood thumh hloe stock.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: AGEnthused on March 16, 2017, 07:42:02 PM
The Spark which Ghosth refers too is why I'm married and into air rifles, there are many times that just looking at either demands that they be handled. I like innovation, the airgun market has it.
I believe I'll keep an eye on this air rifle, it may be huge, but its far from the largest or heaviest.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: lefteyeshot on March 16, 2017, 07:55:59 PM
10-4. I love my guns but looking at and touching Miss Baby is much better.
Title: Re: New Chinese Multi pump
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on March 16, 2017, 08:16:12 PM
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They offer a range of airguns, including breakbarrel and PCP models, that are being distributed through American Tactical in the USA.

 Could not find a single air gun on their website. http://www.americantactical.us/ (http://www.americantactical.us/)

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Mr Zhu tells me that it takes about 50 pumps to fill the main tank to its 200 Bar fill pressure and that this gives 14 full-power shots at 900 FPS in .177 caliber... He said that just three pumps per shot are required to keep pressure up when shooting.

That seems better than the FX Indy's 15-18 pumps every 2 shots. FX VIDEO (https://youtu.be/nNqr4As-p2E)

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Nova Vista has also accounted for the need for dry air in PCP airguns. The Nova Vista HP-M1000 multi pump PCP air rifle features a built-in dessicant system actually in the gun itself to achieve this

Wonder how you would take care of the moisture saturated desiccant. Most are taken out and baked in an oven to recharge.

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production models are scheduled to be in stores by mid-year 2017.

Time will tell