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Airguns by Make and Model => Daisy Airguns => Topic started by: Yng@hrt on December 17, 2016, 09:34:43 AM
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I purchased the Daisy Powerline 880 a couple of weeks ago after finding great reviews online. I shot the rifle the same day I purchased it & the trigger pull was a huge concern but chalked it up to a "kid's" rifle. Maybe it was designed specifically with that pull in mind. I then looked for a site with more detailed information about the 880. I was pleasantly surprised when I found GTA. It was here that I found Tom's Trigger Modification. After a couple of tries, the results were nothing short of amazing for this "Budget Jewel". This modification in conjunction with other mods discussed on this site, i.e.; removing the flat spring, adding electrical tape to stabilize the straw barrel, adding 1 tube of silicone to add weight to the butt stock (thus stabilizing the entire rifle), gluing the bb magazine door closed (to prevent rifling damage), & others places this rifle right up there with those 2 or 3 times it's price. The best part...next to nothing cost wise for all of these mods. What I like most is you end up with a powerful, accurate, & dependable rifle that you can use for pennies on the dollar. Most important for me; one that I can have fun with & one that won't leave my shoulder aching for a day or two. At my age, that is certainly a plus.
Together with Tom's modification I have included the disassembly of the 880 in preparation for this mod. Each of the photographs are in sequential order & ends with Tom's trigger mod. The information you will need is included in each of the photo's.
One area I found difficult was attempting to remove material from the sear without scoring the hammer's face plate. I tried laying a utility blade flat against the face plate but it did not allow me to remove enough material from the point were the sear meets the face plate. Maybe someone has a tip they can share? {Answer on Reply #10- needle files}...still use caution here to save yourself extra work latter.
Click "jpg" at the bottom of each photograph, then click on "open". This will enlarge the image.
CAUTION; MAKE CERTAIN FIRE ARM IS DISCHARGED BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANY OF THESE MODIFICATIONS!!!
Thanks Tom for sharing your knowledge!
...Added step 11; 12/21/16
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Last 4 pics... Last two show the final mod to the "Sear" on the hammer.
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Nice post Marty. If you don't mind.... instead of the 45 degree angle.. just take some material off of the vertical plane of the sear. Leave the top at 90 degree. This will give you a much crisper snap of the trigger. Like you said... baby steps. Replacement triggers are cheap from Daisy but who wants to wait for deliver.
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I thought about that Bill but blowing the first one gave me pause ;). It is by no means a hair trigger at this point but close. Maybe after moding a few more I will give it another go. Plan to pic up two more for my son's.
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Nice pics.
I only use needle files, fine sandpaper, and only polish by hand. I find it far too easy to remove too much stock, even with a dremel tool doing the buffing. Polishes REAL nice by hand.
Other than the sear, I am really not removing material, just smoothing what is there. I then white lube the trigger well on reassembly.
Thanks for taking the time to post the great pics.
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I have a cheap little Daisy 35 that I got from Tom a while back. I used it to teach my little siblings how to shoot and I now use it for some covert hallway plinking in my apartment. It has a truly phenomenal trigger for a $35 gun. Super, super crisp! I gotta say, it was a joy to watch my younger siblings learn to shoot without struggling with a crappy trigger.
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Nice pics.
I only use needle files, fine sandpaper, and only polish by hand. I find it far too easy to remove too much stock, even with a dremel tool doing the buffing. Polishes REAL nice by hand.
Other than the sear, I am really not removing material, just smoothing what is there. I then white lube the trigger well on reassembly.
Thanks for taking the time to post the great pics.
You guys aren't playing fair. Here I am using a pocket knife & you're using a needle file ;D. Just took a look at them. Picking some up today.
Thanks
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I have a cheap little Daisy 35 that I got from Tom a while back. I used it to teach my little siblings how to shoot and I now use it for some covert hallway plinking in my apartment. It has a truly phenomenal trigger for a $35 gun. Super, super crisp! I gotta say, it was a joy to watch my younger siblings learn to shoot without struggling with a crappy trigger.
Glad you are still enjoying it.
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I have a cheap little Daisy 35 that I got from Tom a while back. I used it to teach my little siblings how to shoot and I now use it for some covert hallway plinking in my apartment. It has a truly phenomenal trigger for a $35 gun. Super, super crisp! I gotta say, it was a joy to watch my younger siblings learn to shoot without struggling with a crappy trigger.
I agree. One of the points for choosing this rifle was for the kids (if my son's ever figure it out). Problem is, I liked it so much this is papa's. I know I will end up taking this one apart again to give the sear another try. But again, its fine for now.
Thanks
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LMBO.... Last time I rolled my 4-wheeler doing donuts in the driveway Betty Lou asked me "Hunny, when are you going to grow up?" I replied: "Ummm... I'm 60 years old... it probably ain't gonna happen." So, I reckon I'm the kid that I buy all these guns for.
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I have a cheap little Daisy 35 that I got from Tom a while back. I used it to teach my little siblings how to shoot and I now use it for some covert hallway plinking in my apartment. It has a truly phenomenal trigger for a $35 gun. Super, super crisp! I gotta say, it was a joy to watch my younger siblings learn to shoot without struggling with a crappy trigger.
Glad you are still enjoying it.
I'm loving it! I may have you make me a 901 carbine for a friend of mine. Is that something you could/would do?
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I have a cheap little Daisy 35 that I got from Tom a while back. I used it to teach my little siblings how to shoot and I now use it for some covert hallway plinking in my apartment. It has a truly phenomenal trigger for a $35 gun. Super, super crisp! I gotta say, it was a joy to watch my younger siblings learn to shoot without struggling with a crappy trigger.
Glad you are still enjoying it.
I'm loving it! I may have you make me a 901 carbine for a friend of mine. Is that something you could/would do?
indeed it it. Pm me when you are ready
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LMBO.... Last time I rolled my 4-wheeler doing donuts in the driveway Betty Lou asked me "Hunny, when are you going to grow up?" I replied: "Ummm... I'm 60 years old... it probably ain't gonna happen." So, I reckon I'm the kid that I buy all these guns for.
Yup, these ag's are..... to quote Daffy duck " mine mine all mine"
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Hmmm...Think I've died & gone to heaven.
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Nice post Marty. If you don't mind.... instead of the 45 degree angle.. just take some material off of the vertical plane of the sear. Leave the top at 90 degree. This will give you a much crisper snap of the trigger. Like you said... baby steps. Replacement triggers are cheap from Daisy but who wants to wait for deliver.
Bill, lost me; "instead of the 45 degree angle"? The horizontal plane of the stock sear is sloping slightly from left to right. Is the attached pic close to what you are recommending (in red) or leave the top alone & remove material from vertical plane only? Maybe also increase the pitch of the 45 (yellow)?
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I think what Bill is saying is the vertical line in red. I have done this before.
What you never want to do, is remove the ramp, as the horizontal red line shows. Doing this will pretty much ensure you will need a stronger spring. That slight ramp, helps give enough pressure, to pull the valve open.
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Tom, thanks for pointing out the purpose of the ramp. Thought for a moment I was imagining things. It is ever so slight but it's certainly there.
As for the vertical plane; you mentioned you've done this before. Do you recommend doing this?
One last thing; is my 45 about right or should I increase this angle?
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Tom, thanks for pointing out the purpose of the ramp. Thought for a moment I was imagining things. It is ever so slight but it's certainly there.
As for the vertical plane; you mentioned you've done this before. Do you recommend doing this?
One last thing; is my 45 about right or should I increase this angle?
On the vertical plane, I have only done that a few times. Found the extra care and time, to get it right, didn't net a big enough improvement in trigger performance to warrant it. Your results may vary.
45 is just about perfect.
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The files you recommended allowed me to get close & personal with the face plate. I trued up the 90 where the ramp meets the bevel. Made a world of difference. I'll tell you what; those last few passes will test your nerves!
Thanks for the help.
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Looks great. You are welcome. That is what this place is all about. Helping each other
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Well, finally went out & had some fun. To say I was pleased with the rifles performance would be an understatement. I was also pleased to find, with proper bullet placement it is more than adequate for rabbit size game. I was using CPHP 7.9 gr because it's results on the range were excellent & wanted that added punch. shots were anywhere from 15 to 20 yards. I plan to do a lot more work on the bench out to 30 yards.
Very pleased with the results!