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Title: Buying a compressor
Post by: Redfury on December 16, 2016, 10:21:42 AM
Im looking for some advice from those of you who have some experience/knowledge with high pressure compressors. I'm ready to purchase one but my budget is $1000. I know that knocks me out of buying the "best" that's out there but I've found some options for under $1000. I could maybe stretch that a little if it meant getting something that'll last compared to buying junk but not much. Any advice on what my best option would be is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: JTB530 on December 16, 2016, 10:30:36 AM
I would investigate the shoebox and the altaros. The first will need a small pancake compressor to drive it the other will require a large shop compressor. I have an altaros on the way for me it's the best bang for buck.
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: Wayne52 on December 16, 2016, 10:32:27 AM
Eventually I'd also like to get one of those two, if I had to buy one of the two new I'd go for the altaros
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: n2omike on December 16, 2016, 10:49:32 AM
The Altaros has no motor.  It uses the first stage air compressor to both supply the first stage air, AND to drive to unit.  For this reason, it needs a MUCH larger first stage compressor than the motorized Shoebox. 

If you already have a big 240V shop compressor, the Altaros makes a lot of sense, as it's about half the price of a Shoebox.

If you aren't set up for a large compressor, the Shoebox is a nice unit.

Good Luck!

Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: Wayne52 on December 16, 2016, 10:54:03 AM
I have an older Sanborn 110V that was used for spray painting its' a v twin but it's also not a oil free compressor so to speak
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: zoominx55 on December 16, 2016, 11:07:01 AM
I just went through this and ended up with the altaros and a compressor. I'll post my numbers on the various options later tonight but they are all over $1000. The combo I bought come in a bit over $1000 but then you have to buy filters and desiccant dryers or you will just be pumping water into your guns. The additional stuff was $400 if I recall. They all have pluses and minuses to work with.
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: mouka on December 16, 2016, 12:10:54 PM
Why not simply use a hand pump and go with a gun that can shoot at 2500 psi? $1000 is a lot of cash to spend on a stupid compressor. I can't justify such a purchase no matter how addicted I am to air guns.
You can buy an extremely good 22 LR for $300 or $400 and buy enough ammo to last you 10 lifetimes for the $600 you have saved.
The added bonus is that if the SHTF, you can kill as many zombies as you want with your powder burner.
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: pecor on December 16, 2016, 02:02:32 PM
I'm with Mouka
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: jimmymc2900 on December 16, 2016, 03:53:57 PM
I bought one of those cheap chinese compressors and love the thing. It pumps up my guns, and I don't have to go to town and look at the Zombies. None of the cheap compressors are any good if you look at the reviews. But mine still pumps up my guns. I picked up a used 68ci 4500 paintball tank and use it to fill my guns when out shooting. Works out just fine. The tank was out of hydro and the guy just gave it to me. The things that go wrong with these compressors is the o-rings and the high pressure piston rings. They only take a few minutes ot change and you are in bussiness again.
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: jimmymc2900 on December 16, 2016, 04:03:59 PM
I'm with Mouka, $200 for a tax stamp with plenty $$ left for southernsilencers and half a life time of .22 or .17 ammo. goggle southernsilencers

I just checked and a case of 5000 22lr is just under $600. 5000 JSB 22 cost 120.00 at PA with their discount. Airgun no stamp needed. Cheaper Zombie killing.
Sorry for the off topic post.
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: zoominx55 on December 16, 2016, 04:43:17 PM
I can't shoot a .22lr in my backyard all day long, or in the house.
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: colorider on December 16, 2016, 05:07:37 PM
Jimmy,
Which cheap Chinese compressor did you buy. ?
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: Redfury on December 16, 2016, 05:24:01 PM
Thanks guys! I looked up the altaros and I think that's the route I'm going. I already have a shop compressor so that'll work out good for me!
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: jimmymc2900 on December 16, 2016, 08:17:34 PM
Jimmy,
Which cheap Chinese compressor did you buy. ?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PCP-Inflator-Electrical-Air-Compressor-for-airgun-cylinder-High-Pressure-300Bar-4500psi-Paintball-Refilling-110V-220V/32757013722.html? (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PCP-Inflator-Electrical-Air-Compressor-for-airgun-cylinder-High-Pressure-300Bar-4500psi-Paintball-Refilling-110V-220V/32757013722.html?)
This one.
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: Skinard88 on December 16, 2016, 09:29:48 PM
Hey Jimmy,  How long have you been using your cheap compressor?  At that price, I might not have to sell some of my Airguns to buy a compressor.  I have two 3000psi 90ci tanks and A cheap compressor should keep them topped off.
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: jimmymc2900 on December 16, 2016, 10:51:36 PM
Hey Jimmy,  How long have you been using your cheap compressor?  At that price, I might not have to sell some of my Airguns to buy a compressor.  I have two 3000psi 90ci tanks and A cheap compressor should keep them topped off.

I've had it a couple of months now. It has needed a little work to get it lined out. Not anything that anyone can not do. Mine had a bad plugin and the temp gauge didn't work. Replaced the cord and took the gauge apart and fixed it. Used it today to fill 3 of my guns I am playing with. Each one a half dozen times. It takes 20 min. to fill my 68ci tank from 2400 to 4000. I have used it just about everyday.
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: pecor on December 16, 2016, 10:59:00 PM

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PCP-Inflator-Electrical-Air-Compressor-for-airgun-cylinder-High-Pressure-300Bar-4500psi-Paintball-Refilling-110V-220V/32757013722.html? (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PCP-Inflator-Electrical-Air-Compressor-for-airgun-cylinder-High-Pressure-300Bar-4500psi-Paintball-Refilling-110V-220V/32757013722.html?)
This one.
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Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: KnifeMaker on December 17, 2016, 04:11:48 AM
Red Fury, You're gonna love it. except for one thing. It is so bullet proof that it is just plain boring. LOL!!! No Drama with the Altaros at all! 8)

Knife
 
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: MJP on December 17, 2016, 04:25:26 AM
Well actually it's just a small shopcompressor with a different head that has a second stage in it.
The first stage is the normal shop compressor piston and second high pressure piston is bolted on top of that.
Marko
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: Redfury on December 17, 2016, 09:57:35 AM
Red Fury, You're gonna love it. except for one thing. It is so bullet proof that it is just plain boring. LOL!!! No Drama with the Altaros at all! 8)

Knife
 

you won't hear me complain...I thy to keep my life drama free!
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: Back_Roads on December 20, 2016, 08:23:18 PM
 I offset the cost of the compressor to reloading equipment and supplys. Ok still  have to add lead but less of it in some cases :)
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: Rescue912 on December 20, 2016, 09:26:11 PM
How many CFM does their Altaros need? I like the looks of it and was considering it to fill my tank to 4500. I have a Cornelius that can top off my rifles directly in under a minute.
Title: Re: Buying a compressor
Post by: KnifeMaker on December 20, 2016, 11:12:12 PM
A Min. of 5 cfm at the pressure you want to send to the Altaros is a very good start. Less is going to make for very slow fills.  ;)

Knife