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Title: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: HYspd on July 30, 2016, 08:27:16 PM
Time for a new toy, i want all of these but can only get one at a time (lets makes this interesting.....upto $150) if i go custom shop or mods.....what should i get?
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: Roadworthy on July 30, 2016, 09:47:38 PM
I don't know about the 1377 or the 2240 but I believe the P17 is a single stroke pump and can be had for under $40 - at least mine was.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: StevenG on July 30, 2016, 10:15:08 PM
P17, and talk to stalwart if you want to make it even better.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: GumpIsrael on July 30, 2016, 11:44:23 PM
Do you want to go crazy custom? If so, the 1377 or 2240 would be perfect for you. I have a 1377 that is completely customized. BEWARE though, it is a rabbit hole, I have spent roughly $150 bucks just on custom parts. And I plan on spending even more.... the 2240 is just as customizable, it runs off co2 so only the main tube is different.

So if you want a gun that can truly be your own. I would say 1377 or 2240. The 2240 will save you from pumping, at the cost of ambient temperature constraints. With either gun the question you'll have to answer for yourself is:  "what do i want to do with it?"
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: tennx on July 30, 2016, 11:46:40 PM
I got all three in various forms, hard to pick a favorite, don't want to make the other guns jealous...     ....but for just plain old simple tin can killing fun u cant beat the 17.... I never could spend just $150 in the CCS...good luck on your choice...
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: StevenG on July 31, 2016, 11:01:17 AM
Do you want to go crazy custom? If so, the 1377 or 2240 would be perfect for you. I have a 1377 that is completely customized. BEWARE though, it is a rabbit hole, I have spent roughly $150 bucks just on custom parts.

I have more than that into a P17 ;)
It is a .25 now though.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: GumpIsrael on July 31, 2016, 03:56:49 PM
Do you want to go crazy custom? If so, the 1377 or 2240 would be perfect for you. I have a 1377 that is completely customized. BEWARE though, it is a rabbit hole, I have spent roughly $150 bucks just on custom parts.

I have more than that into a P17 ;)
It is a .25 now though.

I have to admit, i'm not very familiar with that gun. I saw it on PA. I have to admit that it does pique my interest,, hearing that it can be modded. it just looked like a cheap replica pistol to me. If it's that modifiable, I just might have to get one lol
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: avator on July 31, 2016, 04:08:57 PM
As far as the P17 goes, I am not equipped to do the things that Stawart can do so I sent 2 of them to him and let him work the magic. And magic is what he made. We went with a pair of .177s with all the teflon work and custom barrel stuff. Awesome little guns. But for a self satisfying experience I would choose either of the others. I've converted the 1377s into .22 carbine pumpers and the 2240s into everything from .177 peeper c02 carbines to full on 2000 psi hpa chunk chunking .22 rifles. I've also invested from $75 to well over $300.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: birdmove on August 03, 2016, 03:45:11 AM
I've got all three, but just picked up the P17 a few days ago, and haven't fired it yet. I put a steel breech on my 2240, but now the pellets hang up on something when I go to push the bolt forward. I put a steel breech on my 1377, and a skeleton stock and a scope (as I did with my 1322). I like how handy and quick handling it is as a short carbine. Then I installed a bracket and added a red led flashlight, and have used that 1377 for ratting. I'd probably vote for the 1377. You can go mild, like I did, or go wild like many others have, or just shoot the thing totally stock. Got mine for $39.99 when Amazon had a nice discount.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: Tater on August 03, 2016, 04:36:36 AM
I have all three and they are all fun in their own way. I picked the 1377 to mod (first), but if you are just going with one to start with, it really depends on the type of shooting you do. Whatever you pick of those three, I'm sure you'll like it.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: Gertrude on August 03, 2016, 07:47:08 AM
pics speak louder than words...

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Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: BillK on August 03, 2016, 11:13:47 PM
I too have all three.  I use the 2240 CO2 guns so much more than any other.  I do like the pumpers but I reach for the CO2 first and most often.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: HYspd on August 05, 2016, 06:01:30 PM
Ummm......Yeah......Pictures really do speak louder than words.....the Mod Fever from seeing those really boosted up my body temp.......I'm tbinking call Crosman Custom and order a KT2300 with ,a  black trigger shoe and see if they will install the Lother Walther 14.6 barrel from the KT1300 options list on it......thinking I want  a min rear sight too......

Really liking the Carbine Idea, but I like the M1 Carbine/Ruger Mini 14 look....So get a 2260 for the stock and the long tube/dual cartridgez will add extra shot capacity?
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: BillK on August 05, 2016, 11:37:38 PM
I think you don't want the MIM sight on a carbine.  It's great for a pistol but the open sight will be too close to your eye on a carbine.  The Williams WGRS 54 and different/various  sight blades are best for a carbine.  You can position it at the  barrel end of the breech and get a good sight picture.  An open sight, other than a peep, at the breech end is too close to your eye to get a good sight pic.

Here is a 2250 with a SSP rear cocking, 16" barrel and a 2260 stock cut down to the tube size.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/wwk1a/180%20clone/100_09771.jpg)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/wwk1a/180%20clone/100_09821.jpg)
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: Frankly on August 27, 2016, 11:13:09 PM
I've had a few 1377s and P17s. I find the P17 to be a better value because you aren't tempted to put a lot of money into aftermarket accessories or upgrades, it will always be a $40 pistol worth $20 used. However I have spend $40 on 1377s that became $400 pistols that had resale values of $100.

They all shot slowly and well.

Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: StevenG on August 28, 2016, 08:32:05 AM
I've had a few 1377s and P17s. I find the P17 to be a better value because you aren't tempted to put a lot of money into aftermarket accessories or upgrades, it will always be a $40 pistol worth $20 used. However I have spend $40 on 1377s that became $400 pistols that had resale values of $100.

They all shot slowly and well.


Make sure you never talk to Stalwart. Modified guns are never worth what you have in them. So I just plan on keepong them.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: Smaug2 on September 20, 2016, 05:47:31 PM
Sounds like you should just buy a modified gun that someone lost interest in.

I have a 1377 that I customized and the .177 CO single shot gun. (2300T?)

I prefer the 2300T, as the pumping gets old FAST. Maybe if you're shooting out in the cold, or for pesting, a pumper might be better. I have the long steel breech on the 2300T and the 10" barrel. I wanted to keep it as a pistol, but a much improved one. I also have a nice 2x scope on it, and it is by far my most rewarding indoor pistol to shoot.

If you don't care about the velocity and just want a high quality plinker and target pistol, spend a little more off the bat and get a Daisy Avanti 717. Much better trigger and more accurate. Or get the 747 with the Lothar Walther barrel. Be quick, while they're still in stock, before Gamo ruins them. (Daisy just sold out to Gamo)

Search YouTube for "Daisy Power Line 717 or 747 air pistol" and watch the video review by Jeremy D (that's me) for a good synopsis.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: HYspd on September 24, 2016, 07:38:23 PM
Ended up qith a KT1300 22 with a long breecb, a 14.6" barrel and a sboulder stock  and one of Pydamid's 2260MB....


So.far that is....
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: BillK on September 24, 2016, 11:23:12 PM
I applaud your choices.  They are both great guns that can be moded for looks & power but are just fine in the stock condition.  I'm sure you will like them. 
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on September 25, 2016, 11:10:34 AM
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and one of Pydamid's 2260MB

Ooooohhh.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: HYspd on September 25, 2016, 11:21:53 AM
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and one of Pydamid's 2260MB

Ooooohhh.


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I applaud your choices.  They are both great guns that can be moded for looks & power but are just fine in the stock condition.  I'm sure you will like them.


I'm already thinking HiPAC or regulated bottle for the 2260 and  a tube  and vavle change to 2250 with regulated bottle.for the 1300 just as soon the woman gets tired of pumping it.....

Now that I  have purchased the "ice breaker" custom shop assembled airgun I can buy individual  custom shop components ....
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: pcp_Dave on October 06, 2016, 11:39:23 AM
One thing to mention about the P-17 for those considering one.
It is very accurate. At 10 yards mine will stack pellets. Good sights and with a little skate board tape you can make the grips feel really good. Only down side is it is very hard to cock. Really a pain.
Also the stock trigger on mine is very good.
My wife can go through a 100 pellets in one session easy. cocking the P-17 a hundred times is just too much.
That's why she now has a 2240...
Just saying.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: MEDI830 on October 06, 2016, 11:45:20 AM
Coworker just dropped around $130 for a custom shop 1300KT in .22 with an 18" barrel. Nothing super fancy, but out of the gate seemed decent. Even got himself the trigger shoe too.

-Medi
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: tennx on October 06, 2016, 02:36:17 PM
I just came in from shooting the P17.....at 75 feet was hitting a coke can...not every time but was amazed at the very fact I could hit it....as for cocking I hold gun in left hand by grips and with my right hand squeeze the gun together , I can do this all day....good luck on choice..
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on October 06, 2016, 03:26:54 PM
Ok, seems like a common trait of the P17... my next time $35 is burning a hole in my pocket is gettin one of those.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: avator on October 06, 2016, 05:53:26 PM
You'll be happy you did.   Just watch that pinch point. I've seen Betty Lou pinch.... well, lets just call it "unmentionable'.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: StevenG on October 06, 2016, 07:57:26 PM
They are hard to close, but I think using her thighs was a bit excessive.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: avator on October 07, 2016, 01:59:26 AM
The afflicted area was one of two options north of your assumption...  albeit difficult at times to think outside the box.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on October 07, 2016, 06:41:45 AM
Heh-heh-heh-heh  ;)
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: Korak-again on October 09, 2016, 10:41:28 PM
    I have a 2240 that I have put over $300 into. That includes a red dot.  I have a 2400KT, 177 , 18" barrel and shoulder stock and trigger mods. However, without a doubt, the P17 is the one I enjoy the most. I've added nothing to it. It is a super best buy.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: USAFANG6799 on October 18, 2016, 05:41:41 PM
I have two P17, still all stock,(one with red dot and one with red laser). They both shoot very accurately depending on which pellet they like. I'm the variable when it comes to accuracy.
Both have their plus and minus.
The 2240 has a modded valve and power adjuster with red dot scope. 2240 is more powerful than P17 even at the lowest power setting.
Been shooting the P17 more since I don't have to think about how many shots are left in CO2. P17's are a lot more quiet in basement and outside.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: BillK on October 20, 2016, 12:52:33 AM
My P17 is a great gun.  Shoots straight with a wonderful trigger and functions perfectly.  Nothing to complain about.
But, like Rodney Dangerfield, it gets No Respect..
Why, you ask? 
It is too inexpensive.
Make it an $100 gun and folks will be all about how they bought a great gun for a good price.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: StevenG on October 20, 2016, 10:00:28 AM
Oh yeah.

They should put out a model with some wood grips, preferably oversized for customizing and give it a fancy new name.

Also put a weaver or picatinny rail on top. Actually all airguns should do that, dovetails leave a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: P17, 1377 or 2240 (or variants of them) which? why?
Post by: tennx on October 20, 2016, 06:19:30 PM
If they put a lot of bling on it and charged more, probably wouldn't work as well....LOL..love mine