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Title: Flying Dragon pump tips?
Post by: GD Giles on May 13, 2016, 11:37:18 AM
I got mine used and there's no manual or 'tool' with it. I've read this document:

http://flyingdragonairrifles.org/FDAR%20Pump%20Guide.Lg.v1.pdf (http://flyingdragonairrifles.org/FDAR%20Pump%20Guide.Lg.v1.pdf)

which is great but I have some questions.

1. I read on thread here when researching this pump an author say 'as long as I oil it, it works fine.' Where do you oil it? How often?

2. How often do you need to do that tear down and rebuild that the above link references?

3. Are there any special tasks that tool performs or will a normal selection of hand tools 'get 'er done'?
Title: Re: Flying Dragon pump tips?
Post by: johnnyfoos on May 13, 2016, 02:13:01 PM
"Where do you oil it? How often?"
Where= NO PLACE !
How often= NEVER !

No oil

Use silicone ONLY!
Divers greese is pure and what I use on mine

$0.02
Title: Re: Flying Dragon pump tips?
Post by: GD Giles on May 13, 2016, 02:25:08 PM
Ok. I have that. So where and how often?
Title: Re: Flying Dragon pump tips?
Post by: BigTinBoat on May 13, 2016, 04:14:54 PM
Ok. I have that. So where and how often?

On my hand pumps I use Silicone Shock fluid. You get it at the RC hobby stores. I like the 55W.
I would raise the pump handle up, put a drop of oil on my finger and then rub it on the exposed shaft at the beginning of each pumping session. When I first started I used divers grease, but this oil provided much better lubrication.

(http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server5300/xa1mg/products/582/images/10210/807972_TEAM-ASSOCIATED-SILICONE-SHOCK-FLUID-55W__14350.1413232228.1280.1280.jpg?c=2)
Title: Re: Flying Dragon pump tips?
Post by: GD Giles on May 13, 2016, 04:17:29 PM
I'll have to order that. The one hobby store we had in this town went belly up. :(
Title: Re: Flying Dragon pump tips?
Post by: n4spd on May 13, 2016, 11:58:02 PM
funny, I use the same rc silicone oil on my fd pump!    ;D
Title: Re: Flying Dragon pump tips?
Post by: Ribbonstone on May 14, 2016, 04:15:49 PM
Been about 2 years of hard use.  Finally had the pump do something stupid.  Turned out to be the o-ring where the pump tube body joins the base.

Not sure about the current ones, but back then they came with a set of seals, an odd sheet metal multi-wrench, and a little bottle of silicon lube. First time I got to try the wrench as it's the first time anything went wrong.  Was a 10 min fix once I figured out where the leak was coming from (and part of that 10min was cleaning the little beads used as a moisture trap).
Title: Re: Flying Dragon pump tips?
Post by: drewciferpike on May 16, 2016, 01:38:56 AM
I wrote that guide because I wanted to clean and properly lube my pump, and my dad's pump, before use. I cleaned out a LOT of nasty stuff, so I'm glad I did the tear-down before using. Newer ones might be cleaner?

If you use your pump a lot, you can put one or two drops of that silicone oil in the little inlet port at the top of the pump: You need to remove the handle to expose it. Think of it like putting a drop of pellgunoil on the tip of a CO2 cart every once in a while--you're making sure a little protection is getting to the internal o-rings, but definitely not too much. I've been a heavy user of my pump since I wrote that guide, and all I've done is put a drop in the top every few months, and wipe the shaft of the pump with a small cloth and a little silicone, so there's just a sheen.

I used my own wrenches, just because I wanted a better grip. Nothing special, though.
Title: Re: Flying Dragon pump tips?
Post by: GD Giles on May 16, 2016, 07:14:43 AM
We had a sort of regional get together/shoot yesterday and a new participant works at a hobby shop so I guess I now have a source for that shock fluid listed above.

Excellent article Drew. Thanks.