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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => European/Asian Air Gun Gates => Czech & Russian Air Guns => Topic started by: AmBraCol on April 09, 2016, 10:39:23 PM
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Last year while up north I purchased an Air Venturi trigger for the IZH 46M. Life got busy when we got back and it wasn't until this week that it got installed. It's pretty straight forward. Just loosen the trigger screw and slide it off the front of the bar. Loosen the fingerpad screw on the new trigger and slide it up so that there's enough access to maneuver it around and get it slid onto the bar. Adjust it for distance from the backstrap of the grip. Tighten the lock screw with the supplied allen wrench. Slide the pad down do the desired position and twist it around to accommodate your finger properly. Double check for fit by dry firing. Tighten both screws down, check again. Dry fire it a few more times to see if it's set up properly (mine was) and you're good to go. It makes a LOT of difference in the feel of the pistol. One of these days I need to file the grips to fit my hand, but they're already a bit small. That's the trouble when you've got an XL hand with extra long fingers... But this trigger has made a big difference in trigger control, now to improve my technique.
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I saw your post about the IZH 46M and just wanted to ask your overall opinion of it. Not the new trigger specifically, but in general.
Is it a good/decent choice for getting into competitive 10-meter pistol shooting? Would you suggest looking for something better, used, instead of buying this new?
I'm kinda itching to add a nice 10-meter pistol to my collection and to start shooting it at my local club.
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I've had the pistol now for several years, finally had to replace the piston cup. It's a good, accurate pistol. With proper ammo these pistols can hold their own on the range. It's a good way to get started. As for "which pistol to buy", that's always a tough one to answer. Personally, the single stroke pneumatic power plant is a nice intermediate choice between something like an old FWB Modell 65 (spring powered) and the newer CO2 or PCP pistols. It's self contained like a spring powered pistol but shoots smoothly like the CO2 or PCP pistols. The trigger is adjustable to a very nice let off. Some folks gripe about the grip, but it works fine with my XL sized mitt. I'm waiting for the chronograph I (finally) ordered to get here before tearing in to replace the air chamber. I'm curious as to what the Mac1 part will do to it. Sometimes you can find them on the used market. Mine was actually a gift from a friend. Of course, you can also find other pistols out there on the used market. I'm intrigued by the Air Arms pistol, but PCP takes a lot more paraphernalia to run and I've not had a chance to play with one. If you'd like to know what you can do in 10 meters, the Baikal is a good place to start.
A good place to talk with knowledgeable folks about 10 Meter Olympic pistol shooting is over on Target Talk, hosted by Pilk Guns. Their classifieds sometimes come up with used 10 Meter pistols of diverse makes and vintages. And the folk are great at helping newcomers to the sport. They are more "competition nerds" over there while GTA is more of a general airgun knowledge tank. In other words, for specialized questions on the Olympic sport of 10 meter pistol shooting, Target Talk is the place to go.
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I've had the pistol now for several years, finally had to replace the piston cup. It's a good, accurate pistol. With proper ammo these pistols can hold their own on the range. It's a good way to get started. As for "which pistol to buy", that's always a tough one to answer. Personally, the single stroke pneumatic power plant is a nice intermediate choice between something like an old FWB Modell 65 (spring powered) and the newer CO2 or PCP pistols. It's self contained like a spring powered pistol but shoots smoothly like the CO2 or PCP pistols. The trigger is adjustable to a very nice let off. Some folks gripe about the grip, but it works fine with my XL sized mitt. I'm waiting for the chronograph I (finally) ordered to get here before tearing in to replace the air chamber. I'm curious as to what the Mac1 part will do to it. Sometimes you can find them on the used market. Mine was actually a gift from a friend. Of course, you can also find other pistols out there on the used market. I'm intrigued by the Air Arms pistol, but PCP takes a lot more paraphernalia to run and I've not had a chance to play with one. If you'd like to know what you can do in 10 meters, the Baikal is a good place to start.
A good place to talk with knowledgeable folks about 10 Meter Olympic pistol shooting is over on Target Talk, hosted by Pilk Guns. Their classifieds sometimes come up with used 10 Meter pistols of diverse makes and vintages. And the folk are great at helping newcomers to the sport. They are more "competition nerds" over there while GTA is more of a general airgun knowledge tank. In other words, for specialized questions on the Olympic sport of 10 meter pistol shooting, Target Talk is the place to go.
Thank you for your kind and very helpful reply.
I too like the Air Arms pistol and I've already got two scuba tanks for filling my CZ 200T rifle. Even though I'm not particularly good, I find it a very fun and relaxing hobby and I shoot a LOT. I have a 10-meter "range" in my back office warehouse and shoot in the morning and evening when there are no staff around. Plus I shoot 10-meter rifle (with my CZ 200T) at a local club one night a week. I've gotten very intrigued about shooting pistols and would like to get something decent to get started with.
I'll go check out the Target Talk section.
Thanks again!
Eldor
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Shucks, just for getting a start with pistols you can drop by the Crosman Custom Shop and pick up a 2300KT for not much money ($130 with 10" barrel and LPA rear sight). But there's real satisfaction in using a quality target pistol. When you miss you KNOW it was you and that helps you correct what ever it was that caused you to miss.
http://www.crosman.com/custom-shop/ (http://www.crosman.com/custom-shop/)
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One of these days I need to file the grips to fit my hand, but they're already a bit small.
Even with very large hands (I wear XXXL gloves) you will find the grip more comfortable with some sanding.
My hand literally extends beyond the bottom of the grip. But I sanded mine to mold to my hand including a palm swell on the right side and finger grooves on the front strap and left side. Then I stippled the palm and finger grooved leaving the web of my hand, the thumb rest and trigger finger areas smooth.
WHAT A DIFFERENCE! No more feeling like I am squeezing a 2x4, it feels like i squeezed the grip out of playdo.
2 downsides,
first anyone else tries to place 3 fingers in 2 of my finger grooves, so if I was to do it again I might reconsider the finger grooves.
second, my hand prevents me from using the stock wrist support, so I eventually will carve a wrap around support that will extend the grip from the bottom....... when I get time.
Bottom line it was free just an hour here and there carve a little, hold it for a couple days then make adjustments, shoot for a couple days make more adjustments. Also I doubt a custom grip would fit any better without casting my hand.
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Last year while up north I purchased an Air Venturi trigger for the IZH 46M. Life got busy when we got back and it wasn't until this week that it got installed. It's pretty straight forward. Just loosen the trigger screw and slide it off the front of the bar. Loosen the fingerpad screw on the new trigger and slide it up so that there's enough access to maneuver it around and get it slid onto the bar. Adjust it for distance from the backstrap of the grip. Tighten the lock screw with the supplied allen wrench. Slide the pad down do the desired position and twist it around to accommodate your finger properly. Double check for fit by dry firing. Tighten both screws down, check again. Dry fire it a few more times to see if it's set up properly (mine was) and you're good to go. It makes a LOT of difference in the feel of the pistol. One of these days I need to file the grips to fit my hand, but they're already a bit small. That's the trouble when you've got an XL hand with extra long fingers... But this trigger has made a big difference in trigger control, now to improve my technique.