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Title: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: PakProtector on March 24, 2016, 04:35:53 PM
So now there is some chance a .22 capable of running heavy pellets will be accurate...:) Just got an Airgun Depot notice about the new JSB pellet; from the can pic it is a diabolo shape, but at a relatively massive 34 grains. Sounds good to me!
cheers,
Douglas
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: Motorhead on March 24, 2016, 05:24:41 PM
The previous JSB .22 Jumbo Monster which was 25.34 grains was NOT accurate in any High power PCP tried in ... a big failure !!

A BEAST pellet heavier yet ... we'll see if it is accurate or another waste of perfectly good lead  :-[
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: Tomg on March 24, 2016, 05:31:06 PM
The Beast is, unlike the jumbo, a fully diablo shaped pellet.
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: David Mccann on March 24, 2016, 05:31:47 PM
hello guys. what is the heaviest .22 pellet you've had good results with on the long shots, say 100yrds? how fast do they need to be?
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: rsterne on March 24, 2016, 05:37:47 PM
My congratulations to JSB for at least attempting to keep up with the high-powered PCPs now available.... Let us hope that the accuracy is on a par with our expectations....

Can a 50 gr. JSB in .25 cal be far behind?....

Bob
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: aluminumfetish on March 24, 2016, 06:00:50 PM
I have recently tried the H&N Baracuda Match at 21ish grains and they seem to be fantastic in my Condor. I am no bulls-eye shooter but I think they are the best performers so far. I would love to see some actual numbers (BC) on these new JSB's ! Thanks for posting PAK. These could be a real game changer if they can be tamed.
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: blackdiesel on March 24, 2016, 06:58:40 PM
They sneaked these in with no fanfare.  First time I heard anything was when I got the AGD email. I ordered some to try in my Sumatra. 
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: Monkeydad1969 on March 24, 2016, 07:30:39 PM
You guys do know you could have asked me.  Hello, go to Predator about once a week.  ::)
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: Habanero69er on March 24, 2016, 07:45:05 PM
hello guys. what is the heaviest .22 pellet you've had good results with on the long shots, say 100yrds? how fast do they need to be?

The .22, 30gr Prometheus Piledriver. I was shooting them at 820fps +/-. Worked great for 100yd shooting & with their boat tail design, bucked the wind fantastically. I'm patiently waiting for H&N to put out their version of the Piledriver.
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: Habanero69er on March 24, 2016, 07:52:08 PM
You guys do know you could have asked me.  Hello, go to Predator about once a week.  ::)

Any idea of the length of these pellets? I see on AGD's site they say they don't fit rotary magazines.
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: rsterne on March 24, 2016, 07:53:44 PM
They might fit a .25 cal MRod magazine with a .22 cal wheel installed in it.... maybe?....

Bob
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on March 24, 2016, 07:56:00 PM
One more excuse to buy a Sumatra .22 :) :)
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: Rallyshark on March 24, 2016, 09:07:11 PM
Won't fit the rotary magazine  >:(
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: Taso1000 on March 24, 2016, 09:08:02 PM
I had ordered 4 tins of the .22 Piledrivers from Field Supply or so I thought two weeks ago.  My order was on the dock but never made it to my house.  And my order was cancelled with no explanation.  My B51 #1 had no problem pushing the .177 Piledrivers over 930 fps straight from the factory.  I shot 2 or 3 more just to make sure it wasn't a fluke. 

I'm still looking for somewhere to shoot them at 100 yards in peace.

Taso
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: PakProtector on March 24, 2016, 09:09:32 PM
They might fit a .25 cal MRod magazine with a .22 cal wheel installed in it.... maybe?....

Bob

I have no issue with chucking a 6mm endmill in the drill press and screwing the top down to a clamped piece of wood. Jim sells the 'PTP' modified covers too for longer pellets. On the full-boogie modified magazine as Bob mentions, I have .500 fitting cast in a .25 mag with a spaced .22 wheel.
cheers,
Douglas
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: Kallysan on March 24, 2016, 09:29:06 PM

Can a 50 gr. JSB in .25 cal be far behind?....

Bob

We can only hope
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on March 24, 2016, 09:44:08 PM
Won't fit the rotary magazine  >:(


Will fit the Sumatra Magazine no problem

Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: LDP on March 24, 2016, 09:47:56 PM
The previous JSB .22 Jumbo Monster which was 25.34 grains was NOT accurate in any High power PCP tried in ... a big failure !!

A BEAST pellet heavier yet ... we'll see if it is accurate or another waste of perfectly good lead  :-[
+1 none of the extra heavy JSB pellets work in any rifle I have tried.
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: Rallyshark on March 24, 2016, 09:59:50 PM
Won't fit the rotary magazine  >:(


Will fit the Sumatra Magazine no problem

Sticks will fit in that magazine no problem,lol!  Unfortunately, I have my itty bitty AT-44 magazine :(
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: LEE IN VA. on March 24, 2016, 10:17:15 PM
One more excuse to buy a Sumatra .22 :) :)

Yep,  that's the first thing I thought about.
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on March 24, 2016, 10:33:51 PM
Won't fit the rotary magazine  >:(


Will fit the Sumatra Magazine no problem

Sticks will fit in that magazine no problem,lol!  Unfortunately, I have my itty bitty AT-44 magazine :(


One more reason to sell the 44 and get a Sumatra, LOL ;)


Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: blackdiesel on March 24, 2016, 10:54:12 PM
Won't fit the rotary magazine  >:(


Will fit the Sumatra Magazine no problem

Sticks will fit in that magazine no problem,lol!  Unfortunately, I have my itty bitty AT-44 magazine :(


One more reason to sell the 44 and get a Sumatra, LOL ;)

Naw it's better to have both.  I shoot my AT-44s as much as I shoot my Sumatras.  I actually shoot the 22 cal AT-44 more than the Sumatra.  It's just as accurate if not more since it's regulated and just a great gun to shoot long distance. But I think every air gunner should have 22 and 25 cal Sumatras.  The original all-in-one airguns.
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: Monkeydad1969 on March 24, 2016, 11:23:29 PM
One more excuse to buy a Sumatra .22 :) :)

Yes!  Or single load.  I shot them in my Disco with DPV and Escape with 24' .22 barrel.  Did very well.  Don't remember what length was---very long...lol.  Had chrony numbers but misplaced that info.  Make sure you have a .22 shooter that can handle that weight.

Joe
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: Rallyshark on March 24, 2016, 11:32:29 PM
Won't fit the rotary magazine  >:(


Will fit the Sumatra Magazine no problem

Sticks will fit in that magazine no problem,lol!  Unfortunately, I have my itty bitty AT-44 magazine :(


One more reason to sell the 44 and get a Sumatra, LOL ;)

Naw it's better to have both.  I shoot my AT-44s as much as I shoot my Sumatras.  I actually shoot the 22 cal AT-44 more than the Sumatra.  It's just as accurate if not more since it's regulated and just a great gun to shoot long distance. But I think every air gunner should have 22 and 25 cal Sumatras.  The original all-in-one airguns.

Thanks for making me feel better Norman, despite Manny's efforts,lol!  I think the Sumatras are awesome, but I have an AT-44 that pretty much does everything I need it to do, and does it well.  I don't have a lot of $$ to throw around, and me Hatsan is what I have right now :)  My biggest gripe is the thickness of the magazine, which means I can't shoot pellets much over 25 grains.  In all honesty, I probably shouldn't be shooting anything with a .22 that I need that much more weight anyway.  Like others have mentioned, I would just like a heavier pellet that is as accurate as the 18-21 grain options out there.  The 25.39 JSB .22s are very picky about being accurate...
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: eddie40 on March 24, 2016, 11:41:53 PM

Naw it's better to have both.  I shoot my AT-44s as much as I shoot my Sumatras.  I actually shoot the 22 cal AT-44 more than the Sumatra.  It's just as accurate if not more since it's regulated and just a great gun to shoot long distance. But I think every air gunner should have 22 and 25 cal Sumatras.  The original all-in-one 
[/quote] I own now an at44 .177, an at44 .22 long, and bt65 .25 all regulated I would not trade them for any other rifles.
But what you said is a good idea having both. I have been thinking on sumatras or bull pups I don't know what brand yet. But im thinking about it all the time yes 10 4 :) :) :)
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: blackdiesel on March 25, 2016, 12:01:32 AM
I still say if I could only have one PCP it would be a 22 cal Sumatra.  On power setting 2 it shoots crosman premier pellets over 900 fps for about 25 fpe.  And you can get heavier pellets and dial up the power to well over 60 fpe.  And they shoot just about any pellet very good.  I have no doubt it will shoot this new pellet well also. It will probably get over 70 fpe.  So basically you can have a gun that acts like a 117 cal up to a 30 cal by just changing pellets and adjusting the power...
Title: Re: .22 JSB Beast 34 gr
Post by: eddie40 on March 25, 2016, 01:37:58 AM
I still say if I could only have one PCP it would be a 22 cal Sumatra.  On power setting 2 it shoots crosman premier pellets over 900 fps for about 25 fpe.  And you can get heavier pellets and dial up the power to well over 60 fpe.  And they shoot just about any pellet very good.  I have no doubt it will shoot this new pellet well also. It will probably get over 70 fpe.  So basically you can have a gun that acts like a 117 cal up to a 30 cal by just changing pellets and adjusting the power...
I would keep that in mind thanks for the info.