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Airguns by Make and Model => Feinwerkbau => Topic started by: OleTomCat on March 08, 2016, 11:16:28 PM
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So an older gentlemen called me last month about working on a couple of air guns for him, we finally were able to get together last night.
The first one was a run of the mill Crosman B19 type Springer, nothing special about it, bent cocking arm due to no lubricant and a rough cocking slot, about two hours later I am rolling cans in the back yard with it...
Now the second gun is in a leather soft side case with real sheep skin lining. He had said it was an old German gun, Fienwerkbau sport, he said it quit shooting about 20 years ago and has been sitting in the case ever since.
I get it home and start a little research before I crack it open, turns out this thing is like the Holy Grail of air rifles, late 70's model FWB-124, first production Springer to use synthetic seals and break the 800 fps barrier.
I took it out of the case, removed the factory installed leather sling, removed the stock and pulled the action. The piston seal was powdered from sitting in whatever petroleum base goop they used back then. The metal had a slight tinge of mold that I cleaned off and oiled up to keep the rust away, the stock also had the same coating of mold so it got a bath also some oil.
Not figuring I would ever see one of these German beauties let alone work on one I don't have parts for it but luckily ARH has them in stock, hopefully by this time next week I will be shooting a piece of AIR RIFLE HISTORY....
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Absolutely love mine!
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Come on man, SHOW US SOME PICS!
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If I could only have one this is it.
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I have it stripped down and oiled waiting on parts, I will take some pics tomorrow.
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If I could only have one this is it.
If I could buy this one I would.....
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I have it stripped down and oiled waiting on parts, I will take some pics tomorrow.
actually, I'm more interested in in seeing it all apart.
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This is so cool. I know you can't bring it to the fun shoot but bring some pics.
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This is the link that I used when I replaced the mainspring and seals -
parts and lubes were from ARH.
https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2010/03/a-shrine-built-for-a-feinwerkbau-124-part-3/ (https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2010/03/a-shrine-built-for-a-feinwerkbau-124-part-3/)
It has plenty of pictures and I don't think that there is a better step by step guide to either help
you do an upgrade or just see what is inside your FWB 124.
It has many parts but just keep clicking to see the whole process.
Enjoy!
actually, I'm more interested in in seeing it all apart.
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This is so cool. I know you can't bring it to the fun shoot but bring some pics.
The Gentlemen is going to try to make it there himself.
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Very cool. It would be neat if Geoff made it with his 300. BTW I'll bring those seals you need.
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This is the link that I used when I replaced the mainspring and seals -
parts and lubes were from ARH.
https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2010/03/a-shrine-built-for-a-feinwerkbau-124-part-3/ (https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2010/03/a-shrine-built-for-a-feinwerkbau-124-part-3/)
It has plenty of pictures and I don't think that there is a better step by step guide to either help
you do an upgrade or just see what is inside your FWB 124.
It has many parts but just keep clicking to see the whole process.
Enjoy!
actually, I'm more interested in in seeing it all apart.
Thanks Carlos. There is some great info in that thread. I wonder if the new version that just came out is built exactly the same?
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Thanks Carlos. There is some great info in that thread. I wonder if the new version that just came out is built exactly the same?
I hear the new rifle is a big disappointment. Very expensive and just a pretty good shooter...
Love the one you got. :-*
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Wow Al, that's just awesome. I hope you were able to bring it back to where it deserves to be, I know it is in good hands....
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I had Scott tune my 124 up and could not be happier.
They are a lot of fun! I love me some German springer!
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Pictures are here:
Disassembled and laid out on a towel:
(http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/MGalleryItem.php?id=3577)
The Barrel on this rifle is phenomenal, the crown is a work of art:
(http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/MGalleryItem.php?id=3576)
Stout little piston, it is very heavy for as small as it is:
(http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/MGalleryItem.php?id=3578)
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Does your only have a washer on the right side of the breech block? Mine had rubbed the blue off the left side. I saw a parts diagram and there appeared to only be one washer. Some cold blue fixed it right up and a bit of moly and I hope it won't be a problem anymore.
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Does your only have a washer on the right side of the breech block? Mine had rubber the blue off the left side. I saw a parts diagram and there appeared to only be one washer. Some cold blue fixed it right up and a bit of moly and I hope it won't be a problem anymore.
This one has a flat washer on the left side and spring washer on the right, this keeps the barrel tensioned.
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Probably a much later model. Mine is pretty old.
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You can tell time was taken machining the piston. The trigger looks like it might be simple.
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You can tell time was taken machining the piston. The trigger looks like it might be simple.
The trigger is very simple, much like the one on the B1 I just did..
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My 631 trigger looks like that. Sticks right out of the receiver.
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Very cool old gun. Thanks for sharing it
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Probably a much later model. Mine is pretty old.
I doubt it, due to the plastic trigger. Also, if the left side of the breech block pivot is counter bored, it should have a "distance" washer.
You also might want to check the auxiliary sear for dents while you're in there. Happens when people forget to take the safety off and pull too hard. Makes them lumpy. And a stainless steel trigger is nice if you can afford it.
(http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab218/Sunchaser01/AGs/DSCN1605_zps1caf37c6.jpg) (http://s865.photobucket.com/user/Sunchaser01/media/AGs/DSCN1605_zps1caf37c6.jpg.html)
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/thread/1244562276/Some+thoughts+on+the+FWB124+trigger (http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/thread/1244562276/Some+thoughts+on+the+FWB124+trigger)
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Yea, that diagram does show a left side washer. My gun isn't counterbored, no washer, and the fit is oh so German precise. No room for one.
Like I said mine is very early, pre-Beeman. I'm not sure what you meant about the trigger being plastic, aren't they all?
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Yea, that diagram does show a left side washer. My gun isn't counterbored, no washer, and the fit is oh so German precise. No room for one.
Like I said mine is very early, pre-Beeman. I'm not sure what you meant about the trigger being plastic, aren't they all?
No the later models went to an aluminum trigger.
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Thanks Carlos. There is some great info in that thread. I wonder if the new version that just came out is built exactly the same?
I hear the new rifle is a big disappointment. Very expensive and just a pretty good shooter...
Love the one you got. :-*
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I think you may be misinformed, FWB took the old design and made it better. I don't think you will find a higher quality springer at any price, let alone the bargain price of $650 @ champ choice.
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Someone in another thread on Yellow posted an email for FWB where they had received date info on their rifle. I sent a mail to that address and today I got a response. They said mine was too old and they had nothing on file.
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What is the S/N? Beeman was not the only seller.
FWB supplied date info (compiled by: AirgunBBS member RedFeather)
S/N
10012 124 1977
17023 124 12/01/78
20400 124S 05/01/79
26000 124D 12/01/79
34476 124 09/01/80
37900 124D 04/01/81
39800 124 05/01/81
44001 124 10/01/81
49992 124 10/01/82
51631 124 1983
52589 124 05/01/83
57200 124S 05/01/85
57600 124D 03/01/85
61600 124 03/01/88
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What is the S/N? Beeman was not the only seller.
FWB supplied date info (compiled by: AirgunBBS member RedFeather)
sn 1442
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The ARH Old School Tune Kit came in Monday. I put the gun back together tonight and shot about 20 pellets through it and I was able to roll paint cans in the back yard at 20 yards.
(http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/MGalleryItem.php?id=3589)
(http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/MGalleryItem.php?id=3588)