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Airguns by Make and Model => Crosman Airguns => Topic started by: bantam5s on February 19, 2016, 11:21:37 PM

Title: Crosman 1008
Post by: bantam5s on February 19, 2016, 11:21:37 PM
 ( I may have mentioned this before ) when I was little my dad had a crosman 1008 pellet pistol that was the first ag that I ever shot, but about 6-7 yrs ago my dad gave it to my cousin cause it leaked a little. Well now my other cousin has it. We're going to visit them tomorrow and I'm gonna trade him.a like new micro dessert eagle bb pistol for it ( I hope oiling it for him the last time I was there helped ) if I can't get it working again it's no big deal, because I'm just trading a gun I don't shoot for one that I maybe can't shoot ;D   I'll post some updates when I get it ( it's also in like new cosmetic condition as it has always been in a pistol case ) and if I can fix it. I've been told that they're really not worth resealing, and if so I may just have to deal with losing co2 and not get as many shots.  ( by the way I shot the deagle the other day and got 100+ shots per cart )
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: bantam5s on February 20, 2016, 10:33:43 PM
It turns out that it just needed some oil, but it doesn't like to cycle crosman destroyers because they stick out too much. I did get the original manual though, and an old rust bucket of a Daisy 102 cub that someone jammed up with bird shot. Currently it doesn't fire or cock, but I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: bantam5s on February 21, 2016, 07:00:24 AM
Now I'm not exactly sure what the problem is   ???( maybe it is the pellets ) I realized that the pellets don't actually stick out, but make their way forward  from the jolt of firing. ( the nubs inside the clip could be worn, in which case I can get a 3 pack at Walmart )  so I flared some out with a pen tip before loading them and it cycled clean thru 7 shots ( one was still a loose fit in the clip ) I know that a crosman repeat air 1008sb made in July of 1997 probably isn't to interesting, but it was the first airguns I ever shot and I'm glad to have a much more accurate sa/da pellet pistol over a bad double action bb pistol any day ( but my cousin sure is happy with that baby deasert eagle , we were shooting it as well as a few of my guns that I brought all day, and he actually had to waste some co2 by the time we came in because it was getting dark )
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: Slavia on February 21, 2016, 11:29:29 AM
Being "worth" resealing is a relative term.  If you're having fun with it then yes, it may be worth doing.  I did my 1008 a couple of years ago, so I would think Crosman still has parts.

My problem with the 1008 wasn't the seals, but rather all the plastic parts.  It is technically a revolver, and all those complex parts are plastic - including one spring.  That, and the design.  There is no "stop" for the rotary magazine (i.e., "cylinder").  It's timed so the trigger rotates the magazine into position just as the hammer falls, but with wear who knows if that will actually be aligned with the barrel.  SA or DA doesn't matter - it's the trigger movement that moves the magazine, not the hammer as on firearm revolvers.  Getting wild with DA rapid fire will fling the magazine past the point of alignment.

It was fun while it lasted, but I couldn't see putting the price of a new pistol into more plastic parts.  Neither could I see letting it go to waste, so I made a single shot, break barrel CO2 carbine out of it.  That lasted for a while, until the valve body cracked under the weight of the piercing screw.  And no, I wasn't using an impact wrench to load it - just enough pressure so the capsule would stop hissing.  Someday  I may gather enough interest to fix it, but for now it's back to being a cabinet queen. 
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: bantam5s on February 21, 2016, 03:15:12 PM
Without the rotary Mag can I single load pellets directly into the barrel ?
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: Slavia on February 21, 2016, 04:12:00 PM
Yes, but  you still need to put the empty magazine back to fill in the space between the valve and barrel.  On the carbine I made a seal for the front of the valve and mounted the barrel sticking out backwards a bit to fill in the space.
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: bantam5s on February 21, 2016, 07:50:35 PM
OK thanks ! I'll try that .
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: mongoosejake on February 22, 2016, 03:24:23 PM
I have one of these from around 2000 or so with a silver finish. Crosman Pellgun Oil literally saved this thing (I had never knew about the fact that you had put that on CO2, so each of my CO2 guns were in dire need) when it had started to leak enough that it would only get 3 or 4 clips before being too down on psi.

Mine now shoots hard and still very accurate (ran 3 CO2 cartridges with tons of Pellgun Oil on the tips and even put some in the air valve and that eliminated all leaks).

 Hopefully the issues you're having can be simply solved like mine were.
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: bantam5s on February 22, 2016, 03:52:04 PM
I have one of these from around 2000 or so with a silver finish. Crosman Pellgun Oil literally saved this thing (I had never knew about the fact that you had put that on CO2, so each of my CO2 guns were in dire need) when it had started to leak enough that it would only get 3 or 4 clips before being too down on psi.

Mine now shoots hard and still very accurate (ran 3 CO2 cartridges with tons of Pellgun Oil on the tips and even put some in the air valve and that eliminated all leaks).

 Hopefully the issues you're having can be simply solved like mine were.
mines the same gun 1008sb  ( the serial number is under the grip of you want an exact mfg date ) the first 3-4 #'s =date mine is 697 ( June 1997 ) I may need to run some more oil through mine because I ran a clip through it when I flared the pellets, and in the morning I didn't get many shots before it ran out.     
How many shots do you typically get per cart ? And have you tried destroyers in yours ( when I'm shooting the pellets get jostled forward and catch, but I think it's just the shape of the head and that the roundish head of a pointed pellet would just move out of the way )
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: mongoosejake on February 22, 2016, 08:48:31 PM
Just in case you're curious, my 1008's serial number starts with: 800, so mine is from August 2000.

My 1008 currently is only getting 4 to 4 1/2 clips of pellets, 3 of which are strong, the 4th is weak, and the 5th is where my 1008 runs completely out of juice.

As far as shooting Destroyers, they are the standard pellet I fire in all of my guns, mixed with Crosman Premier domed. Both perform nearly the same, but the heavier domes actually start to fail a clip sooner. Both have a jam here or there, but not one worse than the other. I'm taking my 1008 apart, and likely ordering a new valve if it's feasible (this was my first airgun pistol).
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: mongoosejake on February 22, 2016, 10:55:02 PM
Update:

After my earlier post I decided to grab my 1008 RepeatAir and tear it down. I found a build up of dust / dirt over all of the interior (looked to be from the pellets mostly) so I oiled and wiped everything thoroughly and then reassembled the pistol.

The results were that I went from getting 3 or 4 full power clips (8 shot clip), to now I was able to get all of the way to 12 clips before suffering a lack of Co2 pressure and getting a couple of jammed pellets. I fired the dozen clips fairly inefficiently, with some of them being fired as fast as I could pull the trigger (intentionally trying to stress the Co2 cartridge).

-I also took the time while the pistol was apart to glue my barrel in place inside of the forward barrel assembly (the plastic tabs holding it in place were allowing for some play that was detracting from accuracy). After gluing the barrel in place, I was able to keep a good group of 2 1/2 inches or so even while firing off-hand as fast as I could pull the trigger.
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: Slavia on February 23, 2016, 10:07:06 AM
Happy to hear it's working for you.  Sometimes a guy wants accuracy, and sometimes he just wants to "spray."  12 clips is great - even new mine only got 8.
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: bantam5s on February 23, 2016, 07:03:21 PM
Well today I put a whole bunch of oil in the co2 hole area and HOLY COW !! the huge amount of oil blowing out the barrel caused the first shot to kick like 9mm  ;D ;D ( I missed, but it was still awesome ) when mine still had the faint leak I could get about 8-9 slow single action fired clips out of it, now I have just fired 4 through it and am gonna see what happens after a few hours . I am also glad to find out that it works flawlessly with pointed pellets ( never use destroyers because the tips snag and won't cycle ) I'm glad that it wasn't the clip because it doesn't seem like crosman still makes them , and my cousin still has to find the other one that came with it.
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: mongoosejake on February 24, 2016, 12:29:54 PM
If you're having that many issues with the Destroyer pellets, maybe your clip does indeed have some wear. 90% of what I fire in my 1008 is the Crosman Destroyer EX's, and I have very little issues. I do however have 10 clips that I rotate through, so each does not get much wear despite the age of the pistol. My dad had the foresight to purchase a bunch of clips for me when my pistol was new (I got this pistol when I was 13 I believe), and that has likely helped keep the little tabs that hold the pellets fresh.

I'm now wondering if any of the current Crosman pellet repeaters have the same clip so that you could grab a few new ones. The current 1088 might be a starting point, or the T4, or possibly the Iceman, seeing as all of them have 8 shot pellet clips.
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: 7624452 on February 25, 2016, 06:31:37 PM
 ;D

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-8-shot-rotary-clips-fits-t4-1088-pistols-3-pack?a=1236 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-8-shot-rotary-clips-fits-t4-1088-pistols-3-pack?a=1236)
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: bantam5s on February 26, 2016, 04:52:13 PM
;D

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-8-shot-rotary-clips-fits-t4-1088-pistols-3-pack?a=1236 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-8-shot-rotary-clips-fits-t4-1088-pistols-3-pack?a=1236)
I wonder why I couldn't find them on crosman website, you'd think that they'd have every one of their products listed on their site ( that had some but were listed as for a bb pistol and made no mention of the 1008 )
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: 7624452 on February 27, 2016, 01:51:11 AM
Crosman reconfigured their web site a while back and I find it difficult to find a lot of things that used to be easy.
Title: Re: Crosman 1008
Post by: bantam5s on September 14, 2016, 08:21:30 PM
I visited my cousin on Saturday and we found the other clip inside an old tin of Daisy quicksilvers 😁
Anyways this clip does function flawlessly , but I do have to put a whole bunch of oil with each cartridge to keep it from leaking.