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Airguns by Make and Model => Hatsan Airguns => Topic started by: echochap on January 24, 2016, 11:03:18 PM

Title: .30 Caliber springer, the Hatsan Carnivore video just posted
Post by: echochap on January 24, 2016, 11:03:18 PM
Been shooting this gun for a couple weeks now and got out today to get some stuff on video. A short initial run through before I start hunting it. Stop by for a look.

http://youtu.be/7kZ9pkw9uY0 (http://youtu.be/7kZ9pkw9uY0)
Title: Re: .30 Caliber springer, the Hatsan Carnivore video just posted
Post by: stonykill on January 25, 2016, 08:46:18 AM
looking forward to more video's on it
Title: Re: .30 Caliber springer, the Hatsan Carnivore video just posted
Post by: K.O. on January 25, 2016, 01:17:25 PM
I would rather an air conserving pumper  should be able to hit 7-800 fps with one... I just think beyond a certain point springer/np does not make any sense...
Title: Re: .30 Caliber springer, the Hatsan Carnivore video just posted
Post by: echochap on January 25, 2016, 02:41:05 PM
I would expect, and like to see, this gun putting out another 10 fpe or so. Having said this, I am curious to see what the gun will do when hunting. This is anecdotal, I shot a squirrel over the weekend at 35 yards, hit him in the chest broadside, and literally threw him out of the tree DOA. Something about a big, slow moving chunk of lead. Regarding a more efficient multi-pump, there has been and are a couple examples out there. Personally, I don't get so excited over these. I know they are self contained, but something like an efficient PCP at 2000 psi that will give me 20 20 fpe shots would be more to my taste. A pump would be relatively painless, and I could take a small CF tank and keep it fed for many refills.
Title: Re: .30 Caliber springer, the Hatsan Carnivore video just posted
Post by: LAalex on January 25, 2016, 02:55:05 PM
I think the Benjamin ACP and FX Indy are the only ACP's available now, unless there is one I am unaware of.  As far as the .30 springer, it seems a bit much to me, but different strokes for different folks. 

http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/BenjaminACP.htm (http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/BenjaminACP.htm)

Scotty
Title: Re: .30 Caliber springer, the Hatsan Carnivore video just posted
Post by: K.O. on January 25, 2016, 04:15:42 PM
Affordable ACP well that is pretty much a DIY thing but very doable... I like the idea of capable of 3 or so shots but the main thing for me would be 1 high fpe shot and then pump back up in way less pumps than a pump and dump...
Title: Re: .30 Caliber springer, the Hatsan Carnivore video just posted
Post by: K.O. on January 25, 2016, 04:20:46 PM
I would expect, and like to see, this gun putting out another 10 fpe or so. Having said this, I am curious to see what the gun will do when hunting. This is anecdotal, I shot a squirrel over the weekend at 35 yards, hit him in the chest broadside, and literally threw him out of the tree DOA. Something about a big, slow moving chunk of lead. Regarding a more efficient multi-pump, there has been and are a couple examples out there. Personally, I don't get so excited over these. I know they are self contained, but something like an efficient PCP at 2000 psi that will give me 20 20 fpe shots would be more to my taste. A pump would be relatively painless, and I could take a small CF tank and keep it fed for many refills.

well a .30 and 44g pellets would be an air hog so those small tanks would not last long I think... 20 fpe is for .177 and .22 and slow as a .25...
Title: Re: .30 Caliber springer, the Hatsan Carnivore video just posted
Post by: stonykill on January 25, 2016, 05:49:51 PM
I would rather an air conserving pumper  should be able to hit 7-800 fps with one... I just think beyond a certain point springer/np does not make any sense...

 Agreed. Even if the conserving air pumper was 650 -700 in .30 it would be more interesting. I do like Hatsans a lot, but I think this one is just too darn slow.
Title: Re: .30 Caliber springer, the Hatsan Carnivore video just posted
Post by: K.O. on January 25, 2016, 07:58:29 PM
I think the Benjamin ACP and FX Indy are the only ACP's available now, unless there is one I am unaware of.  As far as the .30 springer, it seems a bit much to me, but different strokes for different folks. 

http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/BenjaminACP.htm (http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/BenjaminACP.htm)

Scotty

I think a 2000/2200 psi  version would be able to chunk the 44g .30 out there well especially if a longer barrel...

http://www.airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?t=8846&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 (http://www.airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?t=8846&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15)

that became the Millennium Pumper

To save wear and for ease, pump up first with the bicycle style pump then just re-pump after each shot...

or just pump to lower pressure  for smaller caliber barrel...

or run tethered for .30 target practice...

http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=39328.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=39328.0)
Title: Re: .30 Caliber springer, the Hatsan Carnivore video just posted
Post by: DOKF on January 25, 2016, 09:54:58 PM
A beast for sure, and a powerful spring that may be too much for my spring compresser. 

But, somehow appealing to me ...

Something to consider.

.
Title: Re: .30 Caliber springer, the Hatsan Carnivore video just posted
Post by: bbv13 on January 25, 2016, 11:14:33 PM
Been shooting this gun for a couple weeks now and got out today to get some stuff on video. A short initial run through before I start hunting it. Stop by for a look.

http://youtu.be/7kZ9pkw9uY0 (http://youtu.be/7kZ9pkw9uY0)


It looks like it's built on the H-135 platform. I wonder when they are going to introduce it to the US market?

Bryan
Title: Re: .30 Caliber springer, the Hatsan Carnivore video just posted
Post by: fortyshooter on January 25, 2016, 11:29:11 PM
What is the FPS with the .30 cal?  I have the Sniper 125 in .25 cal and it hits hard!
Ouch!! I just saw the price on that thing $750 bucks at PA and a bit pricy for a springer!!
Paid less than that for my .45-70 Marlin Guide gun!
Title: Re: .30 Caliber springer, the Hatsan Carnivore video just posted
Post by: grimeszee on January 25, 2016, 11:55:09 PM
That is the bt65 PCP  version
Title: Re: .30 Caliber springer, the Hatsan Carnivore video just posted
Post by: Bryan Heimann on January 26, 2016, 12:43:56 AM
I think it looks like a lot of fun, and I want one! 
Title: Re: .30 Caliber springer, the Hatsan Carnivore video just posted
Post by: straightshooter on January 26, 2016, 11:00:40 AM
What I like best with this hunter is the oem installed sling mounts set up safari style.

Why can't other manufactures do this more?

E