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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: BrokeWinger on December 20, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
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to shop the Crosman website for parts?
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to shop the Crosman website for parts?
Watch the language first.
Second, Crosman is not in the business of selling parts. They DO this as a service to us. They certainly don't have to.
We have found it BEST to get your parts numbers in order and call their toll free CS number to order. I really don't know if you CAN do a parts order online.
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Totally agree. Know what you need, call and order. Very nice people to deal with. It's actually kinda of cool seeing how impersonal everything seems to be getting.
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I have ordered LOTs of parts from crosman, I learned to have ALL my part numbers, and CALL. I have always been treated very well.
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I have ordered LOTs of parts from crosman, I learned to have ALL my part numbers, and CALL. I have always been treated very well.
Just placed order Tuesday. Took 5 mins tops. Package arrived on Friday.
Hard? Gotta wonder how it could get any easier.
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I have ordered LOTs of parts from crosman, I learned to have ALL my part numbers, and CALL. I have always been treated very well.
Just placed order Tuesday. Took 5 mins tops. Package arrived on Friday.
Hard? Gotta wonder how it could get any easier.
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I have about the same experience....I place an order every couple months. Always excellent customer service.
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OK...for the record...I actually typed the gibberish the system didn't have to edit it.
Also after starting the thread I discovered that ordering parts via the website is not only difficult but impossible. They simply do not do it. Further I TRIED to get the part numbers in order but was unable to do so because the link for the parts diagram PDF that would contain the desired part numbers, download was jacked up and even after 12 (I literally tried the download 12 times) attempts I still couldn't get one that would open so I could find the part number.
Naturally by that point I was quite frustrated and just needed to vent a little.
All that being said, lesson learned. I will go back to just reading and occasionally using the chatroom feature and NOT posting to the forum itself.
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Brokewinger, for which gun are you needing parts? Lots of members here have them downloaded and are happy to share via e-mail
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In reality I didn't actually want to order anything just yet. I just wanted to find out what the parts I wanted would cost me. Simply in order to know how much I had to save up before starting my net round of mods to my 2400kt.
Initially I had been thinking of using a backpacker fore stock. Howver someone suggested the fore stock off a synthetic P-Rod. After looking at a few pictures...well that fore stock is perfect. I'm planning a HiPac conversion with two or maybe even three extenions, at least one barrel band per extension, and to fabricate a barrel shroud that will accommodate the barrel bands and the TKO LDC that is already installed.
Further plans include; folding foregrip, bipod, scope cam and maybe night vision.
All I was trying to get from the Crosman site at this time was a price and shipping for the synthetic fore stock for a P-Rod. I don't think it should have been so difficult to do so.
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Frustrated? Well, we've all been there. Tell us what airgun you are needing the diagram/parts for. We can possibly help. Computers are sometimes finicky. Adobe Reader updates, Windows updates, JAVA, Adobe Flash...it's sometimes a nightmare keeping everything up and working properly.
As far as not posting, why? All you need to do is try NOT to post anything that can be considered offensive, even with the gibberish added. And also, try not to post in public in haste, when frustrated. Many tikmes I type a message and read it. Proofreading is gud. LOL
And sometimes when reading before hitting the "post" tab, I will edit or completely delete it. One thing I have learned over my many years was to think twice before typing or saying something in public. By doing so, I find I don't embarrass myself....as much. LOL
There are hundreds of helpful folks here, just hold your frustrations at bay and ask away.
Many of us have been there, done that.
But, do continue to read and drop in chat too.
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Well, like I said, parts are not their business. So you will not find any parts listed with prices. You have to download the appropriate parts breakdown, jot down the parts you need or want, then call to check availability and cost. And shipping is always a flat rate of $4 USPS I believe.
Ooops...file to big to attach.
https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/articles/203360704-2240-Owner-s-Manual-EVP-1999-Present-
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Frustrated? Well, we've all been there. Tell us what airgun you are needing the diagram/parts for. We can possibly help. Computers are sometimes finicky. Adobe Reader updates, Windows updates, JAVA, Adobe Flash...it's sometimes a nightmare keeping everything up and working properly.
As far as not posting, why? All you need to do is try NOT to post anything that can be considered offensive, even with the gibberish added. And also, try not to post in public in haste, when frustrated. Many tikmes I type a message and read it. Proofreading is gud. LOL
And sometimes when reading before hitting the "post" tab, I will edit or completely delete it. One thing I have learned over my many years was to think twice before typing or saying something in public. By doing so, I find I don't embarrass myself....as much. LOL
There are hundreds of helpful folks here, just hold your frustrations at bay and ask away.
Many of us have been there, done that.
But, do continue to read and drop in chat too.
Meh, not a big fan of being censored. I understand it's a family forum and all, that's why I "self censored". But that wasn't good enough, and I had multiple people down my throat over it. Yes I have a potty mouth, I'm ok with that.
Yeah I know kids frequent the forum. Yes I know some folks don't want their kids exposed to certain colors of the language rainbow (as if). I also know that it is THEIR job to filter/teach their children what is appropriate language for them to use and what isn't. It is not my responsibility to filter/teach their children.
Frankly anyone who thinks a child over the age of five isn't completely familiar with "foul" language is only fooling themselves anyway.
Sure I chose to abide by the rules and protocols of the forum administration, and therefore self censored. Since that wasn't good enough...I don't care to post any more.
"But BrokeWinger...yer still posting." you are probably thinking, and most likely planning to make a snarky post accordingly. It is my opinion that it would have been rude of me to not see this "conversation" through before the cessation of my posts.
Yes, I'm a weird one Mr. Grinch.
I bid you all, ad due.
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We tried...have a good one.
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Sure I chose to abide by the rules and protocols of the forum administration, and therefore self censored
You almost got it right ,No profanity, disguised or otherwise
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Yeah I know kids frequent the forum. Yes I know some folks don't want their kids exposed to certain colors of the language rainbow (as if). I also know that it is THEIR job to filter/teach their children what is appropriate language for them to use and what isn't. It is not my responsibility to filter/teach their children.
Attitudes like this gets people thrown out of my house. Just a complete lack of respect.
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::) No loss
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Yeah I know kids frequent the forum. Yes I know some folks don't want their kids exposed to certain colors of the language rainbow (as if). I also know that it is THEIR job to filter/teach their children what is appropriate language for them to use and what isn't. It is not my responsibility to filter/teach their children.
When my kids were in that stage, I was unable to "filter" my children's browsing by myself. (Unable to be there 100% of the time, looking over their shoulder while they were surfing) if I saw a website that did not "sensor" such things I would just block them from seeing the entire site, do you think the owners of GTA want that?
....and in reference to being unable to open the PDF's and such at Crosman.com, I think it was likely an issue with YOUR machine. Either that, or as our IT guys liked to say, an "ID-TEN-T" problem.
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Yeah I know kids frequent the forum. Yes I know some folks don't want their kids exposed to certain colors of the language rainbow (as if). I also know that it is THEIR job to filter/teach their children what is appropriate language for them to use and what isn't. It is not my responsibility to filter/teach their children.
Attitudes like this gets people thrown out of my house. Just a complete lack of respect.
Being in someone's home is completely different from an internet forum.
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Yeah I know kids frequent the forum. Yes I know some folks don't want their kids exposed to certain colors of the language rainbow (as if). I also know that it is THEIR job to filter/teach their children what is appropriate language for them to use and what isn't. It is not my responsibility to filter/teach their children.
When my kids were in that stage, I was unable to "filter" my children's browsing by myself. (Unable to be there 100% of the time, looking over their shoulder while they were surfing) if I saw a website that did not "sensor" such things I would just block them from seeing the entire site, do you think the owners of GTA want that?
....and in reference to being unable to open the PDF's and such at Crosman.com, I think it was likely an issue with YOUR machine. Either that, or as our IT guys liked to say, an "ID-TEN-T" problem.
I was able to open several other PDF's from Crosman.com without the slightest issue. But that specific one simply would not work. I can't recall having problems with any other PDF from any other site having issues either. I have been using Adobe Acrobat (the full suite not just Reader) for a number of years without difficulty. I think it's safe to say there is something wrong with either the link, or the file itself. ID-TEN-T problems often occur when people shoot their mouth of without having all the facts. But thanks for trying.
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I think it's safe to say there is something wrong with either the link, or the file itself. ID-TEN-T problems often occur when people shoot their mouth of without having all the facts. But thanks for trying.
got a link to the link?
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Yeah I know kids frequent the forum. Yes I know some folks don't want their kids exposed to certain colors of the language rainbow (as if). I also know that it is THEIR job to filter/teach their children what is appropriate language for them to use and what isn't. It is not my responsibility to filter/teach their children.
Attitudes like this gets people thrown out of my house. Just a complete lack of respect.
Being in someone's home is completely different from an internet forum.
You still here? I wasn't necessarily referring to the internet. Or kids. You show a lack of respect that would permeate beyond the internet.
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I opened the 2400 parts and owner's manual link fine. I tried to copy the pages and post them last night but even as single pages the size was over the limit for posting here. I'll load them as an image and hopefully they will work. But the link does work.
https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/articles/203360704-2240-Owner-s-Manual-EVP-1999-Present-
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Being in someone's home is completely different from an internet forum.
We have been building this "place" for several years. So, to the casual visitor, it may just be another forum on the internet. But to many of us, it IS our home we have worked hard to built.
As lame as some may think that is...it's a fact.
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Home is where the hearts is! And when you're on some else's turf - their house, their rules.
I, too, have experienced the non-opening PDF from Crosman. I didn't get mad, I just looked elsewhere for the info. Starting here, the best forum on the net!!!
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There is a couple websites that sell nearly every 22XX parts if you are willing to pay their prices. Or you can just Google images for a 2240 parts diagram.
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So very very entitled you are (in my best Yoda voice)... I guess its so much easier to be Richard Cranium who can not figure out how to get his frustration across without saying I do not need to follow the rules...
hhm BYE BYE no skin off my back... and you would not be welcome in many homes...
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Folks, GTA is better than this. Please do not fan the flames. Help was offered....
Respect other opinions....even when it becomes tough to do so.
Thanks.
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Sorry, there is just a certain personality type that brings out my inability to grow up...
I am willing to edit it... or leave it as an example of hey let the Moderators do their job...
Dez I hope your Holidays are going well mine are...
My daughter and grandson came for a visit, he is already 24" tall and smiled at me as soon as he saw me... :D :D :D
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I believe that shipping for Crosman is $4.00 per item. Order 5 tiny parts will cost $20 in shipping.
Brad
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Unless they have changed policy since my last order, it's $4 shipping total, not per part.
:)
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Order 5 tiny parts at one time and shipping is $4...
Order 20 bigger parts like 24" barrels at once and shipping is $4 at least that is how it has been for me...
all the parts that make a 13xx trigger/gripframe all the parts to make an MK1322 from MK177 pump parts etc... $4 per order...
I am very thankful that they sell parts it probably is not a $$ maker for them except as good C.S. helps sales in the long run...
Some of the rifles they sell may need some tuning to be their best, but I can still get parts for most of their products... and not just the recent products.
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There's actually a link at that top of this page for the GTA Library. Quite a few manuals and parts lists are there too:
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=library (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=library)
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Im around boss. David
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I opened the 2400 parts and owner's manual link fine. I tried to copy the pages and post them last night but even as single pages the size was over the limit for posting here. I'll load them as an image and hopefully they will work. But the link does work.
https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/articles/203360704-2240-Owner-s-Manual-EVP-1999-Present-
Wasn't the 2400...I was looking for the fore stock on a synthetic P-rod.
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There's actually a link at that top of this page for the GTA Library. Quite a few manuals and parts lists are there too:
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=library (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=library)
While forum libraries are a useful resource, I prefer to get pricing directly from the manufacturer's website. Therefore assuring me that I have the current price. I have no idea when the files in a given forum's library were...or were not updated.
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Ezman,
Thank you for your efforts, they are appreciated.
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There's actually a link at that top of this page for the GTA Library. Quite a few manuals and parts lists are there too:
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=library (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=library)
While forum libraries are a useful resource, I prefer to get pricing directly from the manufacturer's website. Therefore assuring me that I have the current price. I have no idea when the files in a given forum's library were...or were not updated.
Prices have fluctuated a bit over the past years so you have to call to get pricing... ::) but they are pretty reasonable except o-rings There was a minimum price per item... 1.15 last order... so get O-rings elsewhere since it is not hard usually.
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Try Steves Pages. Lots of diagrams there.
Plenty of places on the internet for kids to get.. ummm.. educated. GTA has a different agenda.
Dave, you are one awesome dude. Thank You
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I opened the 2400 parts and owner's manual link fine. I tried to copy the pages and post them last night but even as single pages the size was over the limit for posting here. I'll load them as an image and hopefully they will work. But the link does work.
https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/articles/203360704-2240-Owner-s-Manual-EVP-1999-Present- (https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/articles/203360704-2240-Owner-s-Manual-EVP-1999-Present-)
Wasn't the 2400...I was looking for the fore stock on a synthetic P-rod.
What do ya know.................opened in a flash.....I just googles Benjamin Prod Schematic and it was the very first link
http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/BP2220-EVP%20&%20PL.pdf (http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/BP2220-EVP%20&%20PL.pdf)
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YW
And Crosman will not have prices posted on line for pieces/parts. You will most definitely have to call the toll free number with the part number to get current pricing.
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You may want to count your blessings that you are not trying to get GAMO parts..... just sayin.
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https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/articles/203361724-BP2220-Owner-s-Manual-EVP-2010-Present-
I was able to open the parts breakdown but it does not list the shoulder stock. I'm guessing it's the same one as the 2289 Backpacker? Or not?
https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/articles/203360994-2289-Owner-s-Manual-EVP-1998-Present-
Part # 1389-022.
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Read the thread - nothing left unsaid except Merry Christmas everyone! ;D
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While forum libraries are a useful resource, I prefer to get pricing directly from the manufacturer's website. Therefore assuring me that I have the current price. I have no idea when the files in a given forum's library were...or were not updated.
That is true. Even Crosman does not keep their's up to date. Where's the EVP/manual for the new version 1377, etc? Most of the EVP's don't have prices because I'm sure they want to reserve the future price increases for parts.
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LOL
THINK I've said it at least twice in this thread but I'll say it ONE MORE TIME.
Crosman is NOT in the market to sell parts. That is why you will not see PARTS listed on their website and NO prices available without calling. They sell to us when they have spare parts, as a service to us. NOT PART OF THEIR business plan.
LOL
I for one am very thankful they do this for us tinkerers or those that break things.
:)
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LOL
THINK I've said it at least twice in this thread but I'll say it ONE MORE TIME.
Crosman is NOT in the market to sell parts. That is why you will not see PARTS listed on their website and NO prices available without calling. They sell to us when they have spare parts, as a service to us. NOT PART OF THEIR business plan.
LOL
I for one am very thankful they do this for us tinkerers or those that break things.
:)
I understand that. As the parts supply holds. And appreciate that Crosman has parts available to us if we call. Other companies don't do this -- I'm told Hatsan for example. But they also have to understand that their guns are not disposable, at least to us. You wear a seal out and buy a new gun? I find it curious that long ago Crosman (or any other company) would bother to write the prices, presumably for gunsmiths or maybe for internal use at Crosman when we would call, but not update them over following years. For example, the 1077: https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/201667804/C1077-EVP___PL1.pdf (https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/201667804/C1077-EVP___PL1.pdf) Things weren't computerized back in the day (1994 - 1998). Anyway, I'd like to think that Crosman has this service today for the 70% or so (as I've heard) who customize/fix their own guns. Dunno why. I just accept that they do. Daisy does also.
Since the library has the wrong link to the Crosman manuals/EVP, here it is: https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/categories/200223634-Owner-s-Manuals-and-Parts-Diagrams (https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/categories/200223634-Owner-s-Manuals-and-Parts-Diagrams)
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Actually Daisy did not even know about my 1985 U.S. Shooting Team 953 on their end...
and they do not stock parts for the older 880s and such...
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I opened the 2400 parts and owner's manual link fine. I tried to copy the pages and post them last night but even as single pages the size was over the limit for posting here. I'll load them as an image and hopefully they will work. But the link does work.
https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/articles/203360704-2240-Owner-s-Manual-EVP-1999-Present- (https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/articles/203360704-2240-Owner-s-Manual-EVP-1999-Present-)
Wasn't the 2400...I was looking for the fore stock on a synthetic P-rod.
What do ya know.................opened in a flash.....I just googles Benjamin Prod Schematic and it was the very first link
http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/BP2220-EVP%20&%20PL.pdf (http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/BP2220-EVP%20&%20PL.pdf)
Why thank you.
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I have ordered a few times and they have been very, very nice and even sent me a parts list sheet, they are very easy to deal with. After the holidays their are a few disco parts I will order.
wll
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Something similar happened to me the other day. I was looking at the Crosman Torrent, Recruit, 2100 and 760(SB) on their website. The sales page(s) have a download tab. Some of the PDF files would crash without opening, claiming that Adobe Reader is outdated (it's not) or simply not working (it is).
Perhaps some of the files are corrupted or need looked at on their end?
I already own models of all 4 of those rifles, but some websites are claiming the Torrent is rifled. Putting a light into both the Recruit and Torrent have some sort of swirling effect inside the barrel (ghost rifling perhaps?). Knowing the internal stock number of the barrels from their website would be nice. I highly doubt either gun is rifled, but they both (Torrent & Recruit) are 66 variants, which is an excellent gun in its own right. But it too became a smoothbore at the end of its run, according to some.
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Knowing the internal stock number of the barrels from their website would be nice. I highly doubt either gun is rifled, but they both (Torrent & Recruit) are 66 variants, which is an excellent gun in its own right. But it too became a smoothbore at the end of its run, according to some.
Here is the Recruit EVP
https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/201669514/30011_EVP___PL_2.pdf (https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/201669514/30011_EVP___PL_2.pdf)
Barrel is part # 66-0361 with is the same barrel as in the 664GTW which is a Rifled Barrel Gun - the 664SB is not but it is part # 66-036
http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/664SB%20664GTW%20EVP%20&%20PL.pdf (http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/664SB%20664GTW%20EVP%20&%20PL.pdf)
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Knowing the internal stock number of the barrels from their website would be nice. I highly doubt either gun is rifled, but they both (Torrent & Recruit) are 66 variants, which is an excellent gun in its own right. But it too became a smoothbore at the end of its run, according to some.
Here is the Recruit EVP
https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/201669514/30011_EVP___PL_2.pdf (https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/201669514/30011_EVP___PL_2.pdf)
Barrel is part # 66-0361 with is the same barrel as in the 664GTW which is a Rifled Barrel Gun - the 664SB is not but it is part # 66-036
http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/664SB%20664GTW%20EVP%20&%20PL.pdf (http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/664SB%20664GTW%20EVP%20&%20PL.pdf)
Thanks for those PDFs. Both files work and opened without a hitch. I don't think either rifle (the Torrent or Recruit) are rifled, but I don't know that for a fact.
off topic a little:
Here's one of the Walmart $19 crosman 760 refurbs I picked up about a year ago or so (bought 6 of em total, if memory serves):
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2dii0de.jpg)
It was my first total tear-down and rebuild of a crosman pumper. The internet is a wonderful tool for needed info for this kind of work.
The undercoat color is teal/turquoise. In hindsight, I shouldn't have painted (or cloth camo'd) the receiver at all. Moving parts tend to scuff both the paint and the thin camo cloth application. There is plenty of clear coating on top of it all, but the bolt action or the receiver itself should have been shaved, in order to make allowance for the bulk-up the paint job and camo overlay did to it.
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Not sure what to make of this:
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https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/articles/203247320-Is-66-barrel-rifled-
Ask Ed > Ed's Answers
Is 66 barrel rifled?
The 66-0361 Barrel is currently rifled with a 10 grooves, Right Hand twist, 1 in 16 inches.
This barrel is used on the 66GTW and the 66GTBBK ( as well as the Torrent 525 series of guns).
Traditionally all older 66 guns were rifled as well.
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The 525 series includes the Recruit. Thanks again for the PDFs, BigTinBoat.
edit: changed color (orange to purple) of "525" so it would be more visible