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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: Sinjentic on December 08, 2015, 04:28:34 PM

Title: Rust prevention and lubing
Post by: Sinjentic on December 08, 2015, 04:28:34 PM
What do you guys use on aluminum? I get different answers. I use eezox to prevent rust but it stained my aluminum breech. Not sure what to use on it so the bolt runs smoother. Your help would be appreciated. Thanks
Title: Re: Rust prevention and lubing
Post by: Mr Fluffy Tail on December 08, 2015, 05:26:12 PM
for general protection, air venturi metalophilic oil .. moly paste is good on things like your talking about but it may indeed have a staining affect .. i know something that has excellent lubing qualities and would not stain or cause a mess - dupont chainsaver with teflon, excellent stuff ...
Title: Re: Rust prevention and lubing
Post by: ancient1one on December 08, 2015, 06:32:45 PM
Here is a link to an independent test of 46 different products that inhibit corrosion and reduce friction.

http://www.dayattherange.com/?page_id=3667 (http://www.dayattherange.com/?page_id=3667)
Title: Re: Rust prevention and lubing
Post by: nervoustrigger on December 08, 2015, 07:07:31 PM
Good old 30W non-detergent oil or automatic transmission fluid (ATF) is good for aluminum.  Molybdenum (moly) is not a particularly good lubricant for it the way it is for steel.

And not to put too fine a point on it, but bare aluminum oxidizes, it does not rust.  The oxide is actually harder than the base material and provides protection so it is a good thing.  Same principle with anodizing, only anodizing can be better.

That's why keeping a mirror polish on aluminum rims is an exercise in futility.  Mother Nature will beat you every time in that battle of attrition.
Title: Re: Rust prevention and lubing
Post by: Sinjentic on December 09, 2015, 06:04:51 PM
Can all these oils be used when  using HPA?
Title: Re: Rust prevention and lubing
Post by: nervoustrigger on December 09, 2015, 08:30:59 PM
Please be more specific about where you would use it.  There can't be many places where there is a combination of high pressure air and moving aluminum parts that are subject to wear.  Actually, I'm struggling to think of one in the airgun world.

A thin film of oil on the breech and bolt, for example, is okay.  Coating the inside of a HPA cylinder or bottle is not, at least not with conventional oils which may be subject to combustion.

Silicone oil is commonly used where combustion is a concern.  It is good for O-rings sliding on metal, such as a bolt O-ring or dynamic O-rings in a high pressure pump.  However it is not a good metal-on-metal lubricant.