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Title: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: howie1968 on December 02, 2015, 12:22:36 PM
im looking to get a couple more hatsans would you all buy a refurb and if so who would you buy from? just checked midway and there 95 vortex went up to 199.00 was gonna buy another 25 cal and even pick up a .177 to round out the collection
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: GD Giles on December 02, 2015, 12:53:10 PM
I just did buy one! Here's why I feel good about getting a refurbished anything that's imported:

Especially with low end, imported products ordered via the internet, the first hands to touch them in this country are the purchasers. So if there's a problem it gets sent back to the store and they have a tech address the issue. Now when I do this repairing guitars I don't just tackle the one reported issue, I'm going to check the guitar out and make sure it's all good before it goes back up for sale. There's a difference between an inspection and a set up for guitars and there's a difference between an inspection and tuning for air rifles. So, because I saved so much on the gun by getting it as a refurb, I paid the store to tune it. That made my total cost a bit more than a brand new, UN TUNED, gun. Scratches or dents in the wood, etc. don't affect the way it shoots and it's gonna get scratches anyway. I got mine from Airgun Pro Shop

http://www.airgunproshop.com/ (http://www.airgunproshop.com/)

I will routinely order and sell 'B' stock guitars because I can get them for less and pass them along to my customers for less. A finish flaw doesn't affect the way a guitar sounds or plays at all. Sometimes I can't even find the flaw.

Just ordered my Hatsan 95 Vortex .22 on Monday and tracking says it'll be here by Friday! And they did the Hatsan Factory Bulletproof tuning to it. I'm not sure of the nature of the association but Rick Eutsler is associated with them somehow.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: SteveP-52 on December 02, 2015, 01:57:56 PM
Howie, Airgun Depot has the Mod 95 in all calibers in their Lightning Deal section, $165.99.

Field Supply has them at $174.99 but they're also tossing in a free $10 tin of Hatsan Vortex pellets and $10 in free targets.

http://www.fieldsupply.com/ (http://www.fieldsupply.com/)
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: roadfix on December 02, 2015, 03:27:18 PM
I recently got a 95 springer in .177 for $89 from Field Supply.   Nice rifle, haven't mounted a scope yet...
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: Butchhe on December 02, 2015, 06:38:04 PM
I just received a refurbished Model 95, in .22 cal, shipped from Airgunproshop.com for $109.  I have no reservations about ordering a refurbished Hatsan and will do so again in the future. 
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: packard8 on December 02, 2015, 06:47:26 PM
I recently got a 95 springer in .177 for $89 from Field Supply.   Nice rifle, haven't mounted a scope yet...

I also bought a refurb 95/.177 from Field Supply when they were $79 plus $4 shipping. Not a scratch or fingerprint anywhere on it, and it shoots fine.

I was in the photo/optical business both wholesale and retail for many years. It was not unusual for a Mfg to mark new units as refurbs when they want to clear out old stock. Hatsan is coming out with a Model 95QE and it wouldn't surprise me if they "made" some refurbs to clear the warehouse. Also, when an item is returned to the factory the techs usually give it a thorough inspection, repair (if needed) and adjustment. Often it is "better than new" when they send it back out as a refurb. 
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: wimpanzee on December 02, 2015, 06:59:20 PM
I had a 125 vortex sniper from field supply. I loved it for all of 2 days, whereafter I returned it hoping it went in a trash bin.

Bent up barrel past where my scope could compensate, even with a reversed droop mount, and after about 100 shots trying to sight it, fpe dropped from 28 to 14. It really soured me on the idea of refurbs. I turned the money into an HW95, and never regretted a moment of that.

I still want a 125 sniper vortex in .22, but not for $300+.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: GD Giles on December 02, 2015, 07:10:42 PM
I want a Sniper 125 Vortex in .25. Maybe that barrel damaged happened in shipping?
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: lefteyeshot on December 02, 2015, 07:33:21 PM
I've bought a lot of refurbs. 155, Striker 1000 vortex, Win. 1100, Air Hawk Elite, Air Hawk, Black Hawk Elite. I don't buy a new gun without checking the refurbs first. If it's a bad gun send it back.

But you got enough 95's. You need a .177 135. A gun with something extra. Pushes 10.43 grs JSB's average of 1050fps. "Smoke Wagon". Shoots good. I liked it so much I got something else close, a Mach 12.5.

 After I bought the 155 I wished I hadn't got the !00X. Same gun just smaller. Now that I got a 135 I don't need a 95. Later, Tim.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: lefteyeshot on December 02, 2015, 07:54:15 PM
My 135 came with the barrel bent about 6" from the end and it was new. Last time I pay for a pre-ship test. I could have sent it back but I bent it back straight. Shoots good. With my barrel bending jig I put small blocks about 4" either side of the bend and the c-clamp right on the bend. Worked perfect.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: Juliet_Bravo on December 02, 2015, 10:47:42 PM
If, by "Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?", you mean buy another one, then my answer would be an emphatic YES!

I picked up a 95 in .177 from Field Supply for $82 shipped to my door, and it's a perfect specimen.  The walnut stock is without blemish, and the barrel is perfect!  Plenty of power and shoots well

The only reason I'd recommend against you purchasing one, would be to ensure there's another one for me to purchase when I'm ready.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: packard8 on December 03, 2015, 12:11:52 AM
I turned the money into an HW95, and never regretted a moment of that.
I still want a 125 sniper vortex in .22, but not for $300+.
 

+1 on the HW95. Sorry you had bad luck on the refurb Hat 125 (I had to return 2). Guess it's luck of the draw, I've had good luck with most Hatsan refurbs. On the few that were lemons, they were replaced or credited.

Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: packard8 on December 03, 2015, 12:13:20 AM
If, by "Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?", you mean buy another one, then my answer would be an emphatic YES!

I picked up a 95 in .177 from Field Supply for $82 shipped to my door, and it's a perfect specimen.  The walnut stock is without blemish, and the barrel is perfect!  Plenty of power and shoots well

The only reason I'd recommend against you purchasing one, would be to ensure there's another one for me to purchase when I'm ready.

+1
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: GD Giles on December 04, 2015, 08:22:12 AM
I just received a refurbished Model 95, in .22 cal, shipped from Airgunproshop.com for $109.  I have no reservations about ordering a refurbished Hatsan and will do so again in the future. 

How do you like it so far Butch? Looking forward to a review thread. Mine is supposed to get here today.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: grimeszee on December 04, 2015, 08:41:32 AM
Received My $89 Mod 95 from airgunproshop yesterday and it performed flawlessly.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: GD Giles on December 04, 2015, 11:26:06 AM
Awesome!! $89!!?? That's insanely cheap!!

I noticed they don't have many customer reviews yet so I'm going to bang one out when I get mine and spend some time with it.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: Geoff on December 04, 2015, 11:29:54 AM
I would buy a refurb as long as the savings made it worth while.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: grimeszee on December 04, 2015, 11:55:58 AM
Awesome!! $89!!?? That's insanely cheap!!

I noticed they don't have many customer reviews yet so I'm going to bang one out when I get mine and spend some time with it.
I have purchased 3 Airguns from them without issue or performance.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: lefteyeshot on December 04, 2015, 03:49:14 PM
Like Geoffrey_k said price difference is a factor. An example is like last night I thought about ordering a 34 Pro Compact from PA but a 350 P.C. is only $40 more and I used a 10% discount code off the back of the catalogue. Shipping was less than the discount. But sometime you buy a gun new or refurb and the next day it goes down, or the next day they're out of them or the caliber you want.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: packard8 on December 04, 2015, 05:11:48 PM
Just received my latest refurb, a Hatsan 135/.177 springer. Very nice! Not a mark or scratch on it and it has nicely grained walnut. Right out of the box it's shooting Xman 10.5 heavies at 1090 fps without any dieseling (must have been fired at least 20-30 times before it was shipped). All & all quite pleased for $144 to my door. The downside is that Field Supply packed the 8 tins of pellets in the box with the rifle and 7 or the 8 are noticeably dented/damaged.

Needless to say, customer service has been contacted for replacement pellets.

Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: lefteyeshot on December 04, 2015, 07:42:24 PM
You're going to like that gun. Love mine. Hope you get the pellet thing straightened out.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: GD Giles on December 04, 2015, 08:44:48 PM
Got mine today. McDonald's baby, I'm lovin' it. ;)
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: mobilemail on December 05, 2015, 08:36:18 AM
I would consider it, if they made a *left handed* PCP...
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: packard8 on December 05, 2015, 03:53:03 PM
After about 70 shots and tweaking the trigger, the Hat 135/.177 is starting to settle in. I consider it another successful refurb from Hatsan.

The flyer at 1:00 high was while zeroing in the red dot.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: GD Giles on December 05, 2015, 05:41:21 PM
I've put 100-125 pellets through my 95 .22 so far. My left bicep is not liking me much right now. ;) Going to mount the scope tonight and try, TRY to zero it tomorrow. It'll be me that has a deficit in this process, not the rifle or scope.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: Old Corps on December 05, 2015, 05:54:51 PM
It's my shoulder that hollers when I shoot for a long time. But then pretty much every body part hollers now a days. That's what I get for gettin' so old!
Happy Shooting!

Ed
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: grimeszee on December 05, 2015, 09:00:18 PM
I just finished My first long range session with the refurbed 125 sniper .177 and couldn't have been more suprised. I chronied the 125 springer .177 @ 1185 with 8.44 JSB's and 1083 with CPH 10.5's that's 27.2 FPE. I also shot the 21g pyledriver pellets @700 FPS and put them through a 1" thick wooden box sitting 100 yards out holding my target.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: packard8 on December 05, 2015, 09:40:16 PM
I just finished My first long range session with the refurbed 125 sniper .177 and couldn't have been more suprised. I chronied the 125 springer .177 @ 1185 with 8.44 JSB's and 1083 with CPH 10.5's that's 27.2 FPE. I also shot the 21g pyledriver pellets @700 FPS and put them through a 1" thick wooden box sitting 100 yards out holding my target.

Good numbers for a 125. I was shooting the 135 today and got 1075 fps average (with a few in the 1100+ range) with the CPH 10.5's and about the same fpe. Did your 125 diesel on the first few shots?...My 135 didn't, I assume it had a few shots on the clock prior to my ownership though it looks brand new. Or maybe the Hatsan techs took the time to clean it during refurb. At any rate, a lot of gun for the $$$.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: grimeszee on December 05, 2015, 10:06:41 PM
No dieseling at all but I put about 50 through it before the chrony. My 135 .25 cal chronied 758 with 25g JSB's and 1050FPS with gamo 14.4g PBA golds.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: GD Giles on December 05, 2015, 10:29:34 PM
A .25 springer that chunks lead at over 1000 fps is crazy. I know that's a very light pellet for that caliber but still.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: Butchhe on December 06, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
I just received a refurbished Model 95, in .22 cal, shipped from Airgunproshop.com for $109.  I have no reservations about ordering a refurbished Hatsan and will do so again in the future. 

How do you like it so far Butch? Looking forward to a review thread. Mine is supposed to get here today.

I love mine but havent been able to shoot it much since I have been sick as a dog.  I think I'm close to kicking it so hopefully there will  be some shooting in the near future.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: wll2506 on December 06, 2015, 10:29:16 AM
Received a refurbished 95 Vortex in .22 from Airgunpro and that gun is a firecracker, I put a UTG 4X AO on it and I love it, same scope I have on my little Vortex edge that I can't stop talking about. If I saw another refurbish gun at a killer price, I would not hesitate ....

After posting this, I'm going to go to Airgunpro to see what sales they have  ;- )

wll
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: wll2506 on December 06, 2015, 10:43:41 AM
I've put 100-125 pellets through my 95 .22 so far. My left bicep is not liking me much right now. ;) Going to mount the scope tonight and try, TRY to zero it tomorrow. It'll be me that has a deficit in this process, not the rifle or scope.

Yep, I feel your pain, my left arm is getting a workout for sure. These guns sure have lots of power, and are almost out of the realm of just backyard plinker..these guns send ammo out at a good clip for sure.

Be sure that scope is on tight and the rings are against the stops in the back.

wll
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: lefteyeshot on December 06, 2015, 02:08:49 PM
Glen, you got to learn to cock with both hands. The big magnums will kill you. I always shoot from a bench though. I have the butt against my thigh and start it down with my right hand an about 1/3 of the way reach around the gun and grab it with my left hand to finish with both. I was shooting my Hatsan Dominator carbine yesterday and I'm not sure I could cock it with one hand.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: grimeszee on December 06, 2015, 05:19:05 PM
I finally got a chance today to spend some time with my Mod 95 .177 with a leapers/UTG 3x12 swat. I managed to get 1/2 inch 5 shot groups at 30  yards from my bench and front bag rest. Was a bit frustrated yesterday at our fun shoot trying to zero it in with 10-15 MPH side winds. Put about 50 or 60 JSB 8.44's to get the goups to tighten up. Very happy with the $89 spent on it.  8)
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: GD Giles on December 06, 2015, 07:09:20 PM
$89? That was a steal!

I attempted to zero my scope in today. I'll start a thread about that experience.
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: Old Corps on December 06, 2015, 10:34:31 PM
Glen, you got to learn to cock with both hands. The big magnums will kill you. I always shoot from a bench though. I have the butt against my thigh and start it down with my right hand an about 1/3 of the way reach around the gun and grab it with my left hand to finish with both. I was shooting my Hatsan Dominator carbine yesterday and I'm not sure I could cock it with one hand.

Amen to that. If I'm going to shoot my XL1100 for any length of time the butt goes on the deck, slap the barrel open with my right hand, use both hands to cock it, then load with my right while holding the barrel firmly with the left then bring it home. I CAN cock it single handedly but not for long and derive any enjoyment from shooting. By using this "old man" method I can plink & enjoy it for a long time. ;)

Ed
Title: Re: Would you all buy a refurbished hatsan?
Post by: GD Giles on December 06, 2015, 10:40:25 PM
I used 2 hands for most of it today/Sunday. It was one hand on Friday and mostly one on Saturday. I learned. :)