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Airguns by Make and Model => Hatsan Airguns => Topic started by: EagleTJ on November 25, 2015, 05:40:46 PM
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Hello Gents.
I've got a little problem that I'm hoping someone on here can help out with. I recently took apart my striker to clean it, since it came from the factory with an unbelievable amount of grease on it, which was causing it to diesel and shoot inconsistent. As I was putting it back together I lost the sear spring. I contacted Hatsan directley and they will not ship trigger parts, and it's not covered under warranty anymore because I took it apart. It would cost me about $50-60 to get it fixed through them, which is half of what I paid for the gun. Does any one know where I can get a sear spring or a compatible part?? Any help is greatly appreciated, Thanks!
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See if they'll sell the whole trigger pack. Crosman won't sell trigger parts but an entire trigger pack is under $15 for their break barrels.
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Thanks, I'll try that.
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Looks like they wont sell any trigger packs or kits. SOL
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So just to be straight about this. You took your striker apart (voiding the warranty) you lost a part. At this point we are beating the dead horse. Hastsan won't sell you triggers or trigger parts because they don't want to worry about this issue called liability. Liability is if you put that spring in wrong and the gun goes off, god forbid it hurts or kills one of your family members or even you. They are now on the chopping block for it. So to avoid this they have stated they will not sell certain parts. Just eat the money and send it to them and let them fix it the correct way and chalk this up to a expensive mistake, lesson learned.
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I understand the liability involved, I find it interesting that I can buy parts for all my other firearms but not for my air gun. And the spring only goes in one way.
It's a catch 22 when you receive a new gun that needs to be cleaned and lubed properly, so send it right back to the manufacturer?
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I was just wondering if someone sold a spring, or one similar.
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I understand the liability involved, I find it interesting that I can buy parts for all my other firearms but not for my air gun. And the spring only goes in one way.
It's a catch 22 when you receive a new gun that needs to be cleaned and lubed properly, so send it right back to the manufacturer?
because air guns are not regulated like powder burners are. Go look up the laws on suing a company like Glock... Spoiler alert: you can't! reason is because you accept all responsibility knowing what a fire arm can do. With Air rifles its a different all together. Technically most companies that sell air rifles classify them as "toys" with that the regulations change.
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I understand the liability involved, I find it interesting that I can buy parts for all my other firearms but not for my air gun. And the spring only goes in one way.
It's a catch 22 when you receive a new gun that needs to be cleaned and lubed properly, so send it right back to the manufacturer?
because air guns are not regulated like powder burners are. Go look up the laws on suing a company like Glock... Spoiler alert: you can't! reason is because you accept all responsibility knowing what a fire arm can do. With Air rifles its a different all together. Technically most companies that sell air rifles classify them as "toys" with that the regulations change.
That's a two bit cop out. All they are interested in is making money with their service departments. I have bought anything I've needed from Daisy and Crosman. I can buy anything I need for my car, truck, motorcycle, airplane or any other toy I own. The people I bought it from are not responsible for the way I use it. I will never buy another machine I can't get parts for. Hence, no more Gamo or Hatsan.
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Hey EagleTJ,
Bummer :P
I would do as blackfocal has suggested ;).
Also, I would say, the Hatsan Striker trigger is one tricky bugger to put back together; even if you have all the parts. I have worked on about 10 different styles of triggers, the Strikers is the crudest, most frustrating trigger I have tried to reassemble. Too many funky springs that need to fit together at the same time ....................... :P
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Thanks for all the responses guys, I don't feel that the trigger is terrible to put back together. I've had it apart 4 times already now (polishing the internals). I've worked on many guns in my time, including trigger groups. Those that own a marlin 60 know how annoying springs can be in that assembly. This will be the last Hatsan I ever own....chalk it up to a lesson learned. There should be a MidwayUSA or Brownells for Airguns JMO.
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If it is a coil type spring I would go to an auto parts store and see if they have anything suitable.
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Unfortunately it's a torsion type. I'm doing a search right now to see who makes them.
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This website is in England, but they sell Hatsan parts and the Striker is one of the rifles they happen to sell parts for. Might take you a week or 2 to get what you need but they sell the whole trigger pack. It says currently out of stock, but you could at least take a shot with an e-mail and see when they might have them.
You're also not the only one cursing the lack of ways to buy Hatsan parts in the US...there are more of us than you know and most of us love the rifles.
https://www.gunspares.co.uk/products/25021/Striker/ (https://www.gunspares.co.uk/products/25021/Striker/)
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Have someone that has one gauge and measure if and got to McMaster & Carr. I got torsion springs for the RM377. I just had to trim the legs to size and bend the feet. I didn't know the diff between right hand and left so I ordered 5 of each in case I screwed up, which I did. Cost less than $10.
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Thanks again for the help guys, I'll keep y'all updated.
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The sear spring I installed is a Crosman unit from a Benjamin Trail NP (part number:B18-05-00, 10 bucks plus four dollars flat rate shipping....so wait for 20% off Tuesday and order a gun too!). I put this spring in because I had installed a Welsh Willie trigger blade, and the end product was waaaay too light. The Crosman spring is a larger diameter wire with a bit more tension, and made the WW trigger just a bit heavier in pull, significantly safer (in my opinion, originally was a bit of a "hair-trigger"), and fit just fine. I'm not sure if the additional tension will be a plus or a minus with a stock trigger blade. On the flip side, I did try installing the Hatsan spring in a Crosman group to see if it would lighten the trigger pull a bit...results were inconclusive (I don't have a trigger pull gauge, but going by feel the difference was negligible). Hope this helps, and best of luck!
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Here is a pic (small) of the Striker Trigger assembly.
(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n227/kirk_schwarz/Foto0083_2401_zpsgsxzyddo.jpg) (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/kirk_schwarz/media/Foto0083_2401_zpsgsxzyddo.jpg.html)
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I understand the liability involved, I find it interesting that I can buy parts for all my other firearms but not for my air gun. And the spring only goes in one way.
It's a catch 22 when you receive a new gun that needs to be cleaned and lubed properly, so send it right back to the manufacturer?
because air guns are not regulated like powder burners are. Go look up the laws on suing a company like Glock... Spoiler alert: you can't! reason is because you accept all responsibility knowing what a fire arm can do. With Air rifles its a different all together. Technically most companies that sell air rifles classify them as "toys" with that the regulations change.
That's a two bit cop out. All they are interested in is making money with their service departments. I have bought anything I've needed from Daisy and Crosman. I can buy anything I need for my car, truck, motorcycle, airplane or any other toy I own. The people I bought it from are not responsible for the way I use it. I will never buy another machine I can't get parts for. Hence, no more Gamo or Hatsan.
and thats like your opinion man...
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I understand the liability involved, I find it interesting that I can buy parts for all my other firearms but not for my air gun. And the spring only goes in one way.
It's a catch 22 when you receive a new gun that needs to be cleaned and lubed properly, so send it right back to the manufacturer?
because air guns are not regulated like powder burners are. Go look up the laws on suing a company like Glock... Spoiler alert: you can't! reason is because you accept all responsibility knowing what a fire arm can do. With Air rifles its a different all together. Technically most companies that sell air rifles classify them as "toys" with that the regulations change.
That's a two bit cop out. All they are interested in is making money with their service departments. I have bought anything I've needed from Daisy and Crosman. I can buy anything I need for my car, truck, motorcycle, airplane or any other toy I own. The people I bought it from are not responsible for the way I use it. I will never buy another machine I can't get parts for. Hence, no more Gamo or Hatsan.
and thats like your opinion man...
Like, it sure is.
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I understand the liability involved, I find it interesting that I can buy parts for all my other firearms but not for my air gun. And the spring only goes in one way.
It's a catch 22 when you receive a new gun that needs to be cleaned and lubed properly, so send it right back to the manufacturer?
because air guns are not regulated like powder burners are. Go look up the laws on suing a company like Glock... Spoiler alert: you can't! reason is because you accept all responsibility knowing what a fire arm can do. With Air rifles its a different all together. Technically most companies that sell air rifles classify them as "toys" with that the regulations change.
That's a two bit cop out. All they are interested in is making money with their service departments. I have bought anything I've needed from Daisy and Crosman. I can buy anything I need for my car, truck, motorcycle, airplane or any other toy I own. The people I bought it from are not responsible for the way I use it. I will never buy another machine I can't get parts for. Hence, no more Gamo or Hatsan.
and thats like your opinion man...
Like, it sure is.
It bothers me that parts are not available for Hatsan. I didn't know that when I bought a Webley. I have avoided Gamo for that reason. I like to tinker with my guns, and it bothers me knowing that if something special gets broken (or lost) during a tune, the rifle becomes useless because I can't buy a part. This new knowledge has made me reluctant to start a tune on my Webley VMX, even though it needs one.
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Opinions are freely shared here. Don't take offense because someone's is different than yours.
Richard
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I don't believe anyone is offended. Different opinions are what make life interesting and it is great to have this forum to discuss them. I certainly have no problem with either companies guns but with the sad experience I've had trying to get repair parts it has left a very sour attitude toward their customer service, therefore their products. Air guns are machines and as such they are going to break down occasionally. For those to whom it doesn't matter it is a mute point. For me, I will stick with Daisy, Crosman and Benjamin. :D