Quote from: jccams on May 19, 2022, 12:13:26 PMWell Ron what would it take performance wise to make you keep it? It seems with your .20 R9 you already have a solid performer in .20 caliber. I’d say if you aren’t going to shoot it in .177 dress, cut your losses. That’s my .02. Thanks Jeff,You're probably right. I'm afraid I might not get what I want out of it with the 20 caliber barrel. Then I will have devalued the barrel significantly. Even if I get it shooting nicely at 19 fpe it's still not going to be as nice to shoot as the R9. The R1 is a cool gun but I'm not a collector and I can't really justify sinking anymore money in it. I finally got it shooting nicely in 177 now but it does nothing for me. I'd much rather shoot my 15 fpe 177 Hw95 if I'm shooting 177. The R1 is novel but it's a monster I don't really need.Thanks for your help Ron
Well Ron what would it take performance wise to make you keep it? It seems with your .20 R9 you already have a solid performer in .20 caliber. I’d say if you aren’t going to shoot it in .177 dress, cut your losses. That’s my .02.
First thing for my mind is… I just got to know- slug the new .20 barrel, if it’s way better than the defective one, really good, you’ve got to put it on the R1 and see how it does. I’d hate to let it all go and not know.
Sunken cost fallacy springs to mind. The fact that something has taken a lot of effort / resources is no basis for keeping with an unfulfilling / dead end program. Those costs are done and gone, but future resources can still be better spent somewhere else. One might be better off selling, even at a perceived loss, and make something out of the present nothing (or close to it).
I've sold and traded along the way.. I currently have around 100 between the house and mancave/bar.
Quote from: jccams on May 19, 2022, 12:13:26 PMWell Ron what would it take performance wise to make you keep it? It seems with your .20 R9 you already have a solid performer in .20 caliber. I’d say if you aren’t going to shoot it in .177 dress, cut your losses. That’s my .02. Thanks Jeff,You're probably right. I'm afraid I might not get what I want out of it with the 20 caliber barrel. Then I will have devalued the barrel significantly. Even if I get it shooting nicely at 19 fpe it's still not going to be as nice to shoot as the R9. The R1 is a cool gun but I'm not a collector and I can't really justify sinking anymore money in it. I finally got it shooting nicely in 177 now but it does nothing for me. I'd much rather shoot my 15 fpe 177 Hw95 if I'm shooting 177. The R1 is novel but it's a monster I don't really need.Bye, Bye R1.Ron, you've made your own argument for selling it. NFN I usually let stuff go at less than "market value" if I can't see a way forward to what I want out of a project........NEVER regretted a sale. And I sleep better at night once the angst is over. It's kind of like a "pay it forward" state of mind.You'll feel better, Sleep better..........and buy another gun Cheers!Thanks for your help Ron
I get it, Ron.I have gone way overboard in some of my 'lego' tinker projects. Money just laying there that I will never recover. But there is something to be said for the enjoyment I got out of the adventure.
Quote from: Jshooter71 on May 19, 2022, 01:54:58 PMFirst thing for my mind is… I just got to know- slug the new .20 barrel, if it’s way better than the defective one, really good, you’ve got to put it on the R1 and see how it does. I’d hate to let it all go and not know.Thanks John,The barrel slugs fine and I'm sure it'll make more power than the other one. With the other 20 caliber barrel the gun last made 16.24fpe with JSB 13.73 and 17.4fpe with FTT 11.42. With no other changes and the original 177 barrel it's making 17.6 fpe with JSB Exact 8.44 and 17.2 with FTT 8.64. The 20 caliber barrel should have made more energy than the 177. Not less. So I'm sure they'll be some improvement with the new barrel. I'm just not sure if it'll make enough more to make it worth having when I have the 20 caliber R9 and lighter, easier to shoot 22lrs.On another note. I enjoyed our conversation yesterday. When I finally get settled in down there next year I'll be retired so I can come to you for shooting. If you're ok with that of course.Be well
Quote from: avator on May 19, 2022, 03:37:02 PMI get it, Ron.I have gone way overboard in some of my 'lego' tinker projects. Money just laying there that I will never recover. But there is something to be said for the enjoyment I got out of the adventure.Yeah, but it kept you from gambling, drinking, chasing women...2 out of 3 ain't bad. -Y
Ron, the R1 has been & continues to be a problem it seems. Forget about what you’ve spent & sell the gun & barrel as new. Once they’re gone you’ll soon forget about the issues & move on to something that works well new out of the box.Problem guns just continue to cause lack of satisfaction & this is not what we want from our Airgun hobby.
I would definitely keep it.The R1/HW80 is Weihrauch's work horse, the uber spring piston airgun Either put a .22 barrel on it and/or put in another spring that produces less power output.
In order to be an honest seller I would be compelled to disclose the experience I had with the gun. That would most likely result in a considerable loss in investment.
Is the gun shooting at or near it's advertised power level?