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Title: Looking for parts numbers.
Post by: bantam5s on January 10, 2019, 04:18:37 PM
I need the part number for the M4-177 barrel and for the press on front sight for a 760.

Id appreciate the info.
Title: Re: Looking for parts numbers.
Post by: Matchstickshooter on January 10, 2019, 07:57:51 PM
I think the number you want is MK 177-010.  That's the replacement barrel for a 760 now. it is 16.75 inches long.
 I don't have the number for the front sight.
Title: Re: Looking for parts numbers.
Post by: mav72 on January 10, 2019, 08:00:04 PM
Wait what? This is what i got.

M4-177 barrel 417-005
760 front sight assembly 760-201

Title: Re: Looking for parts numbers.
Post by: Matchstickshooter on January 10, 2019, 08:16:55 PM
Crosman will tell you M4-177 barrel 417-005 is discontinued.
Replaced with Mk 177-010.

I have the barrel and the plastic mount(in the receiver) now, and no more use for it.
 I was given a like new 760-D so got rid of the other stuff.



Title: Re: Looking for parts numbers.
Post by: bantam5s on January 10, 2019, 09:24:02 PM
Thanks for the info.
The plan ( I hope I'm not wrong ) is to put a rifled barrel into the 781 I've got coming, as well as one into my dad's AIR-17 for him.

Now that I think about it I probably don't need the front sight though,  based on pictures I think the rear is also welded on and I might just get a set of 853 sights to put on it.
This may make an awesome target style setup for indoor plinking.


Title: Re: Looking for parts numbers.
Post by: Matchstickshooter on January 11, 2019, 09:35:47 AM
no sights whatsoever on the replacement barrel, but Alchemy Airwerks sells rear sights that will snap on.
Title: Re: Looking for parts numbers.
Post by: bantam5s on January 11, 2019, 02:02:43 PM
no sights whatsoever on the replacement barrel, but Alchemy Airwerks sells rear sights that will snap on.
Oh I sorry, I was talking about the original barrel on the 781 I plan to put it on.
It appears the rear sight is also welded on ( I see no screws and it's definitely not the snap on kind ).
There's no point ordering the front sight if I won't have a rear sight, and if I've gotta buy both I might as well buy something much better.
Title: Re: Looking for parts numbers.
Post by: Matchstickshooter on January 11, 2019, 04:34:23 PM
I saw the pic,but hadn't heard of them. Single pump, like the AIR?
Title: Re: Looking for parts numbers.
Post by: bantam5s on January 11, 2019, 08:27:15 PM
I saw the pic,but hadn't heard of them. Single pump, like the AIR?


If you don't own one this may not make much sense, but essentially the Air17 is a 781 with a few cosmetic additions.

The barrel band and stocks are different, but the receiver is actually the same and just has a carry handle assembly that slides on.
(https://i.postimg.cc/9f2hGDyC/IMG-20190111-163423528.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YvdZ7qXs)


(https://i.postimg.cc/VNFc4zFM/IMG-20190111-163646048.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/B8tyn9kQ)

Title: Re: Looking for parts numbers.
Post by: Matchstickshooter on January 11, 2019, 08:44:02 PM
I had an AIR for a very short time! Got it from a yard sale, wouldn't pump. Replaced the large o ring on the pump and it worked fine.
Living close quarters in an apartment building and didn't want to upset the neighbors or the police.  No mag with it. Traded it off.
Title: Re: Looking for parts numbers.
Post by: BrushPopper on January 11, 2019, 10:01:35 PM
Thought abt doing this to my AIR-17. It’s a surprisingly consistent (accurate) shooter with some pells, for a smoothbore.

Have to imagine a rifled barrel would make a real shooter out of it.
Title: Re: Looking for parts numbers.
Post by: bantam5s on January 11, 2019, 11:42:10 PM
Thought abt doing this to my AIR-17. It’s a surprisingly consistent (accurate) shooter with some pells, for a smoothbore.

Have to imagine a rifled barrel would make a real shooter out of it.
I helped my dad finally score an Air17 last year and it is fairly consistent for what it is, but it will get a rifled barrel when I order one for the 781.

Another plus side to replacing the barrel is that I don't have to worry about the rust on the original.
Title: Re: Looking for parts numbers.
Post by: johnnyfoos on January 12, 2019, 04:53:08 PM
A.I.R. - 17

 Boy I like the looks of this one
I'd love to figure out a way to
put the
"carry handle assembly that slides on."
and the pistol grip stock
with of course a barrel
with the front sight

On to a pump up receiver

Then I'd have a gun I'd really love

just
sayn
Title: Re: Looking for parts numbers.
Post by: bantam5s on January 12, 2019, 11:36:20 PM
A.I.R. - 17

 Boy I like the looks of this one
I'd love to figure out a way to
put the
"carry handle assembly that slides on."
and the pistol grip stock
with of course a barrel
with the front sight

On to a pump up receiver

Then I'd have a gun I'd really love

just
sayn
The carry handle / mag assembly might slide on a 760 or 66, but that's about it since the stock mounts differently. ( I think it mounts like the 766/2100 )

Have you seen the Crosman outbacker ?
It's another gun based around the 781 receiver / internals, I'm not sure I want one but they are kind of unique and Interesting.
(https://i.postimg.cc/X71CmMny/s-l1000.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
They have this very Interesting magnified faux scope sight thing, and even come with a water bottle in the stock.

The stock is just an AIR-17 stock with a logo moulded in.
My theory is that they wanted to make use of the stock mould since they had dropped the AIR-17 for safety concerns based on " realism ".