What kind of noise are you concerned about exactly?Springers make three kinds of noise:1. What you hear when you shoot it, i.e. the spring and piston thrashing about inches from your ear! Any gun more powerful than the HW 30 will seem louder to the shooter of course, but this noise doesn’t really carry to you neighbor’s house.2. The muzzle report. Very negligible from any springer. Detuning the 50 will reduce its noise, but more power than the 30 will still be a little louder. IMHO not likely to get your neighbor out of bed either way.3. The pellet hitting the backstop. Really the loudest thing IMHO. Given the same backstop, again more speed will of course be louder but the backstop itself is the most important factor. A 50 fired at a soft backstop will be a lot quieter than a 30 working on metal cans.
I personally own neither an HW 50 or an HW 95, so can offer only opinions instead of observations unfortunately!The 50 has less power than the 95 but also has a somewhat shorter barrel IIRC, relatively upping the muzzle report. So de-tuning, or using a "lead dust collector" might indeed be in order. The 50's two-piece cocking linkage and shorter fore end slot should insulate action noise better than the 95 though.For what it's worth, IMHO the perfect Weihrauch for your situation - if you are willing to poke about on the used gun market - is the ORIGINAL HW 50, made from 1951 to about 2000 (the current "HW 50" is a similarly-sized, but internally quite different, rifle of more power, originally sold as the HW 99 or Beeman R6). The old 50 used a 25mm seal like the HW 30, but with a longer stroke, and the solid threaded-on rear section like the fat-bodied HW 35, 77, 80, and 97. Gorgeous, solid gun, near-perfect size, balance, and firing behavior (to this old guy anyhow). Made with many detail differences to stock and action over the years; also the basis for the HW 55 target rifle, and the deluxe Beeman R8 in the US market. It has about 80 to 100 fps over the HW 30, but with a longer barrel, so still quite a moderate report.
Yogi has me considering a detuned Hw50s instead of getting another 30s. My 30 is my pet and absolutely love it, but hey variety is the spice of life so maybe a 50s. One of my concerns is noise because I shoot in my basement and in a suburb back yard. Is a detuned 50s still going to be louder than my 30s. I'm open to all the pros and cons in this 30 vs 50 conundrum.
Quote from: Bayman on February 09, 2019, 09:35:03 AMYogi has me considering a detuned Hw50s instead of getting another 30s. My 30 is my pet and absolutely love it, but hey variety is the spice of life so maybe a 50s. One of my concerns is noise because I shoot in my basement and in a suburb back yard. Is a detuned 50s still going to be louder than my 30s. I'm open to all the pros and cons in this 30 vs 50 conundrum.Ron,When I had my HW 50s built up, I tried to emulate the older HW 50 or Beeman R6. It shoots 7 to 7.5 grain pellets at between 525 AND 550 FPS.Most 10meter match rifles shoot in the mid to high 400 fps. Many many coils were cut off of a strong spring. There is no preload! It is VERY easy to cock.It is quiet, smooth and accurate.The sound of the paper ripping is the loudest sound I hear. Use a backstop stuffed with plumber's putty. The sounds a shooter hears is greater than the sounds that are heard 10 feet away.As the old commercial says, "Try it, you will like it".-Y
It is full sized. The HW 30 is just to small for my large frame. A HW30 would be on FULL power, shorter stroke than the HW 50, so little room to detune it.Different strokes for different folks.... -Y
" That being said, the modern HW 30/R7 rifles of the post-Beeman era have the same “pull” dimension as larger HW’s " Within the last year or so I bought an R7 and shortly after that an HW50s. The HW50 definitely has longer pull.
Quote from: Korak-again on February 11, 2019, 09:37:31 AM" That being said, the modern HW 30/R7 rifles of the post-Beeman era have the same “pull” dimension as larger HW’s " Within the last year or so I bought an R7 and shortly after that an HW50s. The HW50 definitely has longer pull.Thanks - I should have clarified that I own mostly older guns. For the record (or should I say, “Rekord” LOL), here are the pull dimensions (shortest distance between face of trigger and face of buttplate) on some of those:1988 R7: 14 1/8”1983 R8: 14 1/8”1967 HW 50S: 14 1/16”1958 HW 50 with pre-Rekord trigger: 14 1/16”1973 HW 35L: 14 1/4”I don’t have an earlier HW 30 to compare unfortunately, but again it was much more a junior gun dimension-wise. My larger point is that Dr. Beeman was the guy responsible for “promoting” the HW 30 action to adult status, via the original Goudy R7 stock.