Happy you found that, great deal for sure, love my .177 DAR gen 2, best pellets were 10.3 gr Air Arms, also shoots NSA 12.5 gr slugs very nicely. For a scope I have a quality $20 Bargain Gate deal scope on it, I would expect to pay around 40 for a similar one off Amazon or the like now days. Ok found a very close match, light but decent glass can focus close ranges.
My hatsan bullboss was quiet. You can always get a moderator for loud guns
Quote from: Back_Roads on October 19, 2021, 08:56:00 PM Happy you found that, great deal for sure, love my .177 DAR gen 2, best pellets were 10.3 gr Air Arms, also shoots NSA 12.5 gr slugs very nicely. For a scope I have a quality $20 Bargain Gate deal scope on it, I would expect to pay around 40 for a similar one off Amazon or the like now days. Ok found a very close match, light but decent glass can focus close ranges.Thanks James. Did you need to tall scope rings to clear the magazine on your DAR .177? Do you find the DAR a good match for slugs? Appreciate the pellet and slug suggestions.
I don't want to dance around legalities, but if you're worried about the shot characteristic of an air gun vs the overall decibel rating, wouldn't a loud motor simply drown it out? Like a lawnmower, portable generator, etc? Or maybe just have a "party" and play some music.
A much quieter than hearing safe factory shrouded 25 to 30 FPE PCP, detuned to half that power is usually very quiet. My .177 DAR set to 12 FPE is about as loud as my R7 at 8 FPE. Dropping the DAR down to 8 FPE makes it amazingly quiet. This PCP came from the factory shooting over 25 FPE, and could be boosted further by increasing hammer spring preload. Not the right thing to do for a quiet pellet shooting .177, so I went the other way.A .22 DAR set to 12 FPE would be even quieter, due to the larger expansion volume inherent in the bore.DAR is just an example. This would apply to many shrouded or "pickled" PCPs, that are usually run "hotter" than required for short range target practice, or small pest dispatch duty.
I made a modification to my Artemis (Snow Peak) P35 shroud today involving half hair curlers and fabric. Dropped the report at 15 feet from 85-88 db to under 80 the way I have it. I also tested another version that made the gun less than two inches longer that was 70db or less. When my pellets hit the pellet trap it is as loud as 85 db so I didn't see the sense of making the report only 70db. My heat pump compressor would drown out the report if it was at 70db.
Nick,Better than pictures, Aaron Cantrell had a youtube channel where he often comments on his P15s. The P15 is the predecessor of the P35, they are very similar. I followed Aaron's shroud modification - he has a whole youtube explaining and showing the process. You need $1 hair curlers from the dollar store and a bit of fabric to wrap around them. But integral to this design is the aluminum baffles that the P15 and P35 come with. I've started to try and think about how I could do this to my other two PCPs with empty shrouds and louder reports. But I need to find a source of the baffles which would fit their shroud. Aaron's modification is to cut the curlers in half, wrap them with felt (I used fabric) to make them as large as the id of the shroud, and then put the half curlers inside the baffles and slide 2-4 inside the shroud (my gun came with 7 baffles). Simple and easy - if you have the baffles. The quietest design requires 4 of the curler/baffle combinations which requires lengthening the shroud. Again, that is permitted by the P15/P35 shroud design. The back end of the shroud is free to slide on the barrel when a grub screw is loosened. But without lengthening the baffle I still got about a 10db reduction. About 20 db versus an empty shroud like my other guns have. Jim
...There are also holes on the back of the shroud. I know air comes out when you shoot, it hits my hand when shooting from the bench sometimes.